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    stackin chips breakin ankles AnkleBreaker21's Avatar
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    put this bull thread in the politics not in the ing club

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    put this bull thread in the politics not in the ing club

    Yeah!!!!

    It's ing exhausting to read the thread le and then NOT click it. Ankle Breaker21 is having way too difficult of a time NOT clicking it.

    Put it in the Political forum so everyone will be relaxed and NOT have to click on it.

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    may the force kick yo ass ObiwanGinobili's Avatar
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    Moore just hates everything about America and this movie is just another example of it, he's only showing one side of the story the side he wants you to see. Sure our health care system has it's flaws but I'd rather be treated here than anywhere else in the world.
    I would rather be treated in alot of other countries.

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    I would rather be treated in alot of other countries.
    Not to pick on you, but name me some and why.

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    Yeah!!!!

    It's ing exhausting to read the thread le and then NOT click it. Ankle Breaker21 is having way too difficult of a time NOT clicking it.

    Put it in the Political forum so everyone will be relaxed and NOT have to click on it.
    man stfu the club is about intersting fun topics we dont need no politics in here. its bad enough we have to hear that 24/7 on the news. thats why we have a politics forum. so stop your in and whining

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    man stfu the club is about intersting fun topics we dont need no politics in here. its bad enough we have to hear that 24/7 on the news. thats why we have a politics forum. so stop your in and whining

    Ummmm, weren't you the one " in and whining"?


    Is it ok to ask that in the club forum?

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    whatever nugget fan, if you wanna keep talking about this gay ass movie. go ahead

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    whatever nugget fan, if you wanna keep talking about this gay ass movie. go ahead


    "nugget fan"...oooooohhhhhhhh, damn, that was a kick ass put down.

    I've been pwned or something.

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    BTW.

    A little note for the Michael Moore lovers here.

    Ask michael "Where did the dictators of those countries go when they are sick?"

    Other than Castro.

    Uhhh, America.

    Yeah our health care system is .

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    "Im shocked at the number of people who are ready to just turn more control of day to day life to the government."

    But you aren't shocked that the USA has turned over health care to predatory corps, Big Pharma, health insurance corps, etc, etc, for which their profits are to be maximized, and health care delivery and the health of the citizens is to be minimized, or disqualified.

    A great example of a successful federal health program is the VA as reformed in the 90s.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    BTW.

    A little note for the Michael Moore lovers here.

    Ask michael "Where did the dictators of those countries go when they are sick?"

    Other than Castro.

    Uhhh, America.

    Yeah our health care system is .
    I didn't realize that Canada, France, and England were run by dictators.

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    I didn't realize that Canada, France, and England were run by dictators.
    Oh man, you just stepped in some there.

    According to the Republicans, they are and have been for a looooong time.

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    "nugget fan"...oooooohhhhhhhh, damn, that was a kick ass put down.

    I've been pwned or something.
    yah you where when your team got kicked out the first round, es

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    yah you where when your team got kicked out the first round, es

    And from here on out I'll just assume you are 13.

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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    How has this thread not been moved to the political forum yet?

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    How has this thread not been moved to the political forum yet?

    How?

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    Why hasn't anyone updated the iPhone thread? That is way more important.

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    stackin chips breakin ankles AnkleBreaker21's Avatar
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    How has this thread not been moved to the political forum yet?
    thats what i been trying to tell this asshole johnsmith

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    Ask michael "Where did the dictators of those countries go when they are sick?"

    Other than Castro.

    Uhhh, America.

    Yeah our health care system is .
    Did you hear this from your "British business contacts" or do you have some do entation?

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    Im done. If your gonna act like a child im done.

    Take the thread and shove it.

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    The fact is that if you want to run the health field as a for-profit industry, then you're going to win up treating diseases, not preventing them (like the US tends to do).

    On the other hand, if you want to focus the health field on basic preventative care keeping the general population from getting sick, then you're not going to have as many high-end technical advances in things like chemotherapy, antibiotics, cardiac catheterizations, microfracture surgery, etc (like many of the European countries).

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    im glad the doctor finally showed up and installed wisdom.

    Thanks doc.

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    The fact is that if you want to run the health field as a for-profit industry, then you're going to win up treating diseases, not preventing them (like the US tends to do).

    On the other hand, if you want to focus the health field on basic preventative care keeping the general population from getting sick, then you're not going to have as many high-end technical advances in things like chemotherapy, antibiotics, cardiac catheterizations, microfracture surgery, etc (like many of the European countries).
    Access to the high end technical advances. Exactly one of the points presented in Moores movie. What good are all the technical gizmos if you have no access to them? The insurance companies credo is deny deny. I didn't need Moore to know that. Start of the movie shows a woman who needed an MRI. The greedy HMO purposely denied her just to save money. She went on vacation to Japan. The headaches continued. The Japanese ER did an MRI. She had a big assed tumor that had been there for quite a while, no way it just developed on the trip.
    Three Ground Zero workers all had seperate ailments that the US system would not treat. The gal had amoung other things a breathing problem. She got some relief from these canister deals but they were $120 a pop in the US. Same exact thing like 50 cents in Cuba. The system up here just jacks people for profit. With her $1000 a month SSI $120 a pop was huge. Also she lost her gov't job and income even tho she an EMT helping clean up at Ground Zero. How screwed up is that? These were more the norm then the exception.

    So the Brit etc Doctors get their patients to quit smoking period. In fact Britian gives it doctors a bonuses for getting X number of their patients off tabacco. The US docs wont get you off it, but they will build some breathing gizmo you can hook up to the hole in your neck. That's better quality of life?

    And T_Park i thought you left.

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    Sicko bashers are stubborn aren't they. Weak ass rebutalls.

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    Damn You Commies T Park's Avatar
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    Three Ground Zero workers all had seperate ailments that the US system would not treat. The gal had amoung other things a breathing problem. She got some relief from these canister deals but they were $120 a pop in the US. Same exact thing like 50 cents in Cuba. The system up here just jacks people for profit. With her $1000 a month SSI $120 a pop was huge. Also she lost her gov't job and income even tho she an EMT helping clean up at Ground Zero. How screwed up is that? These were more the norm then the exception.
    I'll find the link later

    but i've read Moore was told in some ways to GFY by many ground zero workers, and the workers that did go, he reportedly paid them quite handsomely.

    BTW, if Cuba is so fantastic, go live there, and see how wonderfull it is to live there under the great and wonderfull Castro.

    You sound like Ed Asner.

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