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    Labrador: Adult victim was attacked in her home by as many as 23 dogs owned
    by daughter. The Lab who severely mauled Jasmine Charboneau, 2, on
    7/29/04 in Devils Lake, ND, proved to be rabid.

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    I'm not even going to argue this topic again. I've said my piece and if you'd like, I have statistics to back them up. Use the search function.

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    So, I guess was Sanity is saying is its nurture, not nature for what's responsible for killer dogs. While I tend to believe certain animals have a genetic makeup that makes them more agressive, I've seen some great family pets made of dogs that many would fear, so I'm inclined to agree, to a large extent.

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    The genetic makeup of an American Pitbull Terrier is to be more aggressive towards other dogs, not humans. During the times when they were bred to fight, any Pitbull that bit a human in the pit was immediately killed, therefore developing a breed that was less inclined to bite a human, moreso than any other breed.

    I hate arguing this topic but the people that are anti-Pitbull are usually so misinformed and ignorant. Of course it is how the dog is raised, there is no other way. It is not in this dog's genetic makeup to bite humans, it is a trait that is learned through either training or neglect (beating the out of your dog). Many people see the Pitbull as a symbol of toughness, and these same people are the ones who see gangs/crime as a symbol of toughness. Of course a certain breed will have a higher number of attacks when you have stupid gangbangers running around with Pitbulls teaching them to attack.

    If I was so inclined, I could teach my Toy Fox Terrier to attack and introduce to the world the most dangerous 7lb dog.

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    This is the only time I will openly admit to agree to TheSanityAnnex.

    This topic is so dumb, some places ban the breed, but who the is going to go and hunt down the owners and poor dogs? The PitBull police? There are bigger issues in the world than one misunderstood breed.

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    holy jesus that looks like my neighbors dog exactly!

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    It's ok to laugh until it's your kid who is mauled. We used to live across the street from a man who had a pit bull and that dog was this guy's baby. He was nicer to the dog than his own kid and this dog was vicious. Several neighbors complained enough that the police finally made him give the dog away.

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    It's ok to laugh until it's your kid who is mauled. We used to live across the street from a man who had a pit bull and that dog was this guy's baby. He was nicer to the dog than his own kid and this dog was vicious. Several neighbors complained enough that the police finally made him give the dog away.
    Did the dog maul anyone? Did it ever attack anyone?



    There's this black guy that lives across the street from me who is very intimidating, he lifts weights in his frontyard and yells at his kid. Tomorrow I will call the police and inform them of this man, hopefully they will put him in jail before he harms anyone.

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    It's ok to laugh until it's your kid who is mauled.
    And who's ing laughing anyways?

    Kids are bitten by many, many, many different breeds each year. Should we just ban dogs all together? I was bitten in the face by my uncle's Chow when I was eight. I got too close to the dog's face and was being a rowdy little . I also got bit by a Lab when I decided to pull on it's tail. I don't feel the need to parade around and ask for all these dogs to be killed, and I've actually been bitten by them. Flea, have you been bitten by a Pitbull? Pm5k, have you been bitten by a Pitbull?

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    It's ok to laugh until it's your kid who is mauled.
    First of all if I owned a pit I would teach my kid not to piss of the pitbull or other dogs because they will attack suddenly, 2nd I would not own a pitbull if I had a small child because I know their temperment. I know that pits can be nice dogs but you dont know how they will react.

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    2nd I would not own a pitbull if I had a small child because I know their temperment.


    You know their temperament?




    Then you must know that the Pitbull breed has one of the highest passing rates right?



    www.atts.org
    What is temperament?

    W. Handel, German Police Dog Trainer, in his article, "The Psychological Basis of Temperament Testing," defines temperament as:

    "the sum total of all inborn and acquired physical and mental traits and talents which determines, forms and regulates behavior in the environment"
    The ATTS test focuses on and measures different aspects of temperament such as stability, shyness, aggressiveness, and friendliness as well as the dog's instinct for protectiveness towards its handler and/or self-preservation in the face of a threat. The test is designed for the betterment of all breeds of dogs and takes into consideration each breed's inherent tendencies.

    The test simulates a casual walk through the park or neighborhood where everyday life situations are encountered. During this walk, the dog experiences visual, auditory and tactile stimuli. Neutral, friendly and threatening situations are encountered, calling into play the dog's ability to distinguish between non-threatening situations and those calling for watchful and protective reactions.


    American Pitbull Terrier 84.1%

    American Staffordshire Terrier 83.9%

































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    Then you must know that the Pitbull breed has one of the highest passing rates right?
    Yeah, and Bolivia has the most natural resources of all south america, does that mean they have a decent economy? no they are the 2nd poorest country in south america.

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    Did the dog maul anyone? Did it ever attack anyone?



    There's this black guy that lives across the street from me who is very intimidating, he lifts weights in his frontyard and yells at his kid. Tomorrow I will call the police and inform them of this man, hopefully they will put him in jail before he harms anyone.

    No but the dog would get out and start chasing people. One day another neighbor looked out his glass door and this dog was standing in front growling like he wanted to bust through. This neighbor was just sitting there watching tv. Thank God he never mauled anyone. If this black guy started acting in a threating manner I'm sure you would react accordingly.

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    And who's ing laughing anyways?

    Kids are bitten by many, many, many different breeds each year. Should we just ban dogs all together? I was bitten in the face by my uncle's Chow when I was eight. I got too close to the dog's face and was being a rowdy little . I also got bit by a Lab when I decided to pull on it's tail. I don't feel the need to parade around and ask for all these dogs to be killed, and I've actually been bitten by them. Flea, have you been bitten by a Pitbull? Pm5k, have you been bitten by a Pitbull?

    Someone was joking around earlier about kids being stupid. I took that as making fun of the situation and no I have never been attacked by a pitbull. I have never been bitten by a rattlesnake either.

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    While agree with TSA, I'd never own a pit bull and I don't like the breed. My cousin had one and one day it growled at him during feeding time and he shot it right on the spot.

    If they placed a ban on the breed? Wouldn't bother me none but I think tougher punishment against the owners is the way to go.

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    It wouldn’t be fair to “ban” a breed, especially when there are good, honest, responsible owners out there. It would have to be done case by case and that’s just not very practical. Some good people have put bulls and they are treated with respect, love, care and are brought up around people and other dogs and they turn out to be the sweetest dogs around. Then you have these dirties who want a "badass" Pit Bull to show how tough they are and they raise the dog to be aggressive. They keep these dogs in crates or tied up all day to a tree and when these "badass" dogs get loose then end up killing other dogs or worse, people. So while you can argue that it’s not the breed itself that's the problem (which I disagree with), like it or not, it's the breed that has been glorified by certain cultures to behave in an aggressive manner and because of that, the breed is or has become dangerous. I personally would never own one or spend any time around one, but that's just me. I don't trust them, and no, I’ve never been attacked by one. It’s my prerogative to not trust them or want to be around them. Btw, it's not just Pit Bulls either; Rotts and German Shepards can be pretty dangerous also.

    Sanity brings up SOME good points, but then again, some of those examples are bull . For most of those breeds, those incidences are the exception, not the norm and in some of those examples, the dogs had rabies. Those examples should be thrown out, a squirrel with rabies is dangerous. Sure kids are bitten by all types of dogs each year...but it's the aggressiveness of the dog, the force of the bite, the ability to control the dog after such an encounter and the willingness of the dog to let go that all play HUGE factors in that "bite". You’re comparing apples to oranges here. You can't tell me that a bite from a Dachshund is comparable to a bite from a Pit Bull. Pit Bulls don't let go and you're talking tens, maybe hundreds of pounds per square inch difference in bite force.

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    All I know is that if a pitbull or any dog should attack my kids there will be to pay.

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    It wouldn’t be fair to “ban” a breed, especially when there are good, honest, responsible owners out there. It would have to be done case by case and that’s just not very practical. Some good people have put bulls and they are treated with respect, love, care and are brought up around people and other dogs and they turn out to be the sweetest dogs around. Then you have these dirties who want a "badass" Pit Bull to show how tough they are and they raise the dog to be aggressive. They keep these dogs in crates or tied up all day to a tree and when these "badass" dogs get loose then end up killing other dogs or worse, people. So while you can argue that it’s not the breed itself that's the problem (which I disagree with), like it or not, it's the breed that has been glorified by certain cultures to behave in an aggressive manner and because of that, the breed is or has become dangerous. I personally would never own one or spend any time around one, but that's just me. I don't trust them, and no, I’ve never been attacked by one. It’s my prerogative to not trust them or want to be around them. Btw, it's not just Pit Bulls either; Rotts and German Shepards can be pretty dangerous also.

    Sanity brings up SOME good points, but then again, some of those examples are bull . For most of those breeds, those incidences are the exception, not the norm and in some of those examples, the dogs had rabies. Those examples should be thrown out, a squirrel with rabies is dangerous. Sure kids are bitten by all types of dogs each year...but it's the aggressiveness of the dog, the force of the bite, the ability to control the dog after such an encounter and the willingness of the dog to let go that all play HUGE factors in that "bite". You’re comparing apples to oranges here. You can't tell me that a bite from a Dachshund is comparable to a bite from a Pit Bull. Pit Bulls don't let go and you're talking tens, maybe hundreds of pounds per square inch difference in bite force.

    Pit Bull isn't a breed, it's a type.

    Aggressiveness isn't a trait found in Pit Bull's unless we breed or train that in them.

    We should ban people.

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    Who cares about their predisposition to bite humans and whether they are not inclined to do so? Pit Bulls have the ability to inflict serious damage. Maybe more than any other type of dog. I believe they are an inherently unstable dog. The generations upon generations of inbreeding for the specific purpose of fighting has taken a toll on their mental makeup imo.

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    yah right tell that to all the criminals when cops sick their german shepards on their asses, or rottwilers, or dobermans. you dont know what the your talkin about tlong

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    IMO, anybody who wants to own a dog should have to get a license. They should be required to pass basic courses that teach proper care and training before taking ownership.

    Pit Bull or Pomeranian(have killed as well) it shouldn't matter.

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    any and all dogs can flip out.

    but iike blizz said,
    pitbulls have the means to do alot more damage.

    you can raise a lion to be a puppy but you still never know. why take the chance.

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    yah right tell that to all the criminals when cops sick their german shepards on their asses, or rottwilers, or dobermans. you dont know what the your talkin about tlong
    You have actually supported my argument. If the cops were only interested in inflicting physical damage they would most likely have pits. However, the difficulty one has in controlling them makes shepherds and rotties better choices. Now go to your room!

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    Okay, kill all pit bulls because they are aggresive and tend to attack human beings.

    So, using that rationale, we should kill all lions, tigers, bears, elephants, silver-back gorillas, wolves, coyotes, rhino's, badgers, wolverines, etc., etc., etc.

    I mean, they are all aggresive and tend to attack human beings.
    Of course, all these animals have to be provoked one way or another.
    Like, say . . . . little kids pissing them off.

    it, I still say get rid of stupid little kids.

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