Grant Hill...

[Cry Havoc]

Stretch USED to talk mad .

Then his team CHOKED AGAIN and how he just bends over and takes it voluntarily with K-Y Jelly.

At least you know your place. You should have learned the Mavs were worthless months ago, though.

Coming the fan of a team who's second-best player would give Forrest Gump a run in I.Q., I don't see what your point is.

[judaspriestess]

much like your team choked again against the Spurs, and let them bully the out of them. kindly shut the up.

the fact is, the Spurs have 4 rings, the Mavs and Suns have none. obviously their team does somethings better than the Mavs and Suns do. we have no right to talk at this moment. they have beaten the Mavs on their way to one of their les, and beat the Suns twice on the way to winning championships. but at least during their 7 year run, the Mavs beat them once, and found a way to the Finals. the Suns have gotten no where. Mavs fans technically have far more right to talk than Suns fans, although neither fans really have any right, because none of it matters unless you got the rings.

brilliant post

[spursreport]

-Talking Rights Charts: SA, Dallas, and Phoenix

1. Spurs are first. They beat the Nowitzki Mavs in 2001 and 2003, and the Nash, Stoudemire, and Marion Suns in both 2005 and 2007. (Despite the Suns having 62 wins in '05 and and 61 wins in '07 while the Spurs had 58-59 wins) 4 championships

2. Mavs are second, they beat both the Spurs and Suns in 2006

3. The Suns are last, all they did was beat Dallas in 2005.

So the Spurs have beat the two others.
The Mavs have beat the two others.
The Suns beat the Mavs once.

The difference between #2 and #3 is in 2005 the Suns had Amare while in 2006 they didn't have Amare.

[Shred]

The difference between #2 and #3 is in 2005 the Suns had Amare while in 2006 they didn't have Amare.

Suns haven't been at full strength in any of their elimination series for the past 3 seasons.

[spursreport]

Suns haven't been at full strength in any of their elimination series for the past 3 seasons.

That is actually true. They managed to beat Dallas in 05 WITHOUT Joe Johnson and literally no bench.

[Cry Havoc]

Suns haven't been at full strength in any of their elimination series for the past 3 seasons.

It should be noted that the Spurs weren't at full strength when they eliminated the Suns last season.

[RonMexico]

It should be noted that the Spurs weren't at full strength when they eliminated the Suns last season.

What? Are you talking about 06-07? You're comparing losses of Amare Stoudemire, Boris Diaw, and Joe Johnson to 2 games without an aging Robert Horry?

Only thing Horry has is vet savvy and a lot of rings, but he'll be one of the first to admit that he's been very lucky to play with dominant big-men (Shaq, Duncan, Hakeem). Take out Horry AND Hakeem in a pivotal game in 1995 and maybe D-Rob doesn't get his handed to him.