malone....
he's not over the fact that his daughter won a championship before him, and she's half his age....
i hate malone as much as you guys, but i'd much rather play w/him than against him, especially if he signed w/a team such as the T-wolves
malone....
he's not over the fact that his daughter won a championship before him, and she's half his age....
Oh, I found one statement that's classic Show-be:
Giving him 110 percent?
"L'etat, c'est moi !".
-King Kobe I
Fvcking mercenary!
No Malone, por favor . . .
You could, because they would both be more clutch than malone. But I would recommend Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker as better options that are available.
Who gives a if Malone is clutch or not, if Malone would help the Spurs or mess up chemistry, or whatever?!? I can't believe this is even coming back up. This is KARL SATAN MALONE we're talking about, people. In a Spurs uniform? Screw that.
Some of you peeps out there have no idea what youre talking about. Im not talking about giving malone 18-20 mins. but if he can help out here and there on some nights like what kevin willis did last season why dont we sign him? parker seems to be on the right track to maturity, beno seems to be a capable back up. barry can handle the point as well once he gets familiar with pop's schemes. why cant we waive or put wilks on the ir and sign malone.
he dont need to play everynight but playoff experience counts. if he can help why not?
i hated malone during his jazz days as well as laker days. why? cause i thought he was a dirty player. but hey. thats because im on the spurs side. anyone who messes with my team messes with me. others call bowen dirty cause they are on the short end of the stick. so if malone is on the spurs, i will still support the spurs. come on guys be objective. i think he can help us in some ways. massenburg is not good enough to guard certain players. malik has problems with some players. rasho has problems with some players. so why not get a good low post defender like malone who can help out. he showed that if he can guard timmy during the playoffs, who else cant he guard? think about it.
flame me if you think fit but look at it from the spurs point of view. team first man team first
Team first, right? Well, in my opinion, the team would be better off without him. You can't just look at a player's talent level and think he'd help. He has to be a good fit. As the Portland/Knick model has shown us, you can't just add talent and expect it to work in all cases.
- The Spurs are playing great right now. The addition of a veteran former superstar who has always played major minutes and gotten a good amount of touches (even in L.A.) is almost certainly going to change things in some way, and we just don't know how. I'm happy with the chemistry right now, and although Karl isn't likely to be a problem, it's very possible that he could disrupt a delicate balance. Don't forget that Karl has never come off the bench on a regular basis.
- The league (and power forwards in general) continues to get more athletic. The new prototype power forward is in the mold of Nowitski, Garnett, Radmanovic, Marion, etc. Karl is a great post defender, but can he keep up with Shawn Marion on the perimeter. To complicate matters further, can he keep up with Shawn Marion at his advanced age and coming off of a major knee injury? It's hard to say, but those are certainly valid questions.
- You talked about giving Malone Kevin Willis minutes and not 18-20 minutes. I can't speak for Karl, but I can't imagine that he would come back unless he could play some regular role off of the bench. He would almost certainly take most of Rose's and Horry's minutes. I'd rather have Rose and Horry out there simply because they can get up and down the floor. Their ability to do so is important because it contrasts Rasho's game. Rasho is slow. Karl may not provide that contrast. He's at the very end of his career and coming off a serious knee injury.
Of course, the same could be argued for you.Some of you peeps out there have no idea what youre talking about.
There is no comparison between Bowen and Malone in terms of dirty play. Guys complain about Bowen because they get frustrated, but he is no way a dirty player. Malone, on the other hand, may be the dirtiest to ever play the game. The dude has kept his career alive for the past few years with his cheap, dirty . Even years ago he wouldn't have been as good as he was if it wasn't for his dirty play. There is absolutely no place for a guy like Malone on a basketball team with any class.
So all we do here is about how soft and ty our frontline (read: Rasho) is, yet we would turn down the absolute best available big man (yes, provided he's healthy but BIG ING DEAL if he isn't -- if anyone outside of NZ has demanded PT for Sean Marks, raise your hand) because we never beat him in the playoffs we created an entire mythology to rationalize his ownage of this team.
End of rant: it's fine not to want Malone, just be honest about why.
Personally, I think we're pretty solid up front. Apparently everyone else thinks so too.
I do too. I'm happy with the frontcourt for now.Personally, I think we're pretty solid up front. Apparently everyone else thinks so too.
I simply think that Malone could possibly bring more negative attributes than positive ones, as I explained above.
During the offseason, I wasn't opposed to the idea. But, they're 16-3 and rolling now. Don't mess with it.
Who are you calling a "peep"? And why?
Just because we don't want Malone to mess up the chemestry. We are 16-3, in case you didn't notice . . .
So get the out of here with your Malone talk.
Dalamar the Dark, you are definetly in the dark on this one . . .
Who thought Jerome Kersey would ever have been a Spur?
Who thought Mario Elie would ever have been a Spur?
Who thought Terry Porter would ever have been a Spur?
Who thought Robert Horry would ever have been a Spur?
Prior to Malone's performance last season I would have been skeptical about his willingness to put team before his individual glory but you know what? He did. The only thing he didn't do is pull a Willis Reed imitation in Game 5 of the Finals but other than that he filled a role and tried to keep the team together in a lockerroom full of egos. No, I don't really care for him that much but I can't say I really care for Horry that much either.
What concerns me is how healthy he would be, exactly. If he's going to be hobbling around on the court then while he may be a marginal improvement over Massenburg I don't think he's worth the trouble. But if he comes back rejuvenated, ready to do what is asked of him, and totally focused on winning a championship it is hard to turn that down, especially when your starting center is Radoslav Nesterovic.
Edit Sorry guys I missed the first one and didn't mean to post that again.
Last edited by Stand; 12-07-2004 at 11:48 PM.
Finally someone sees what im talking about. Malone has proved that he puts team first. He didnt complain about lack of shots like kobe. he didnt complain about playing time like payton. he didnt complain about touches like shaq. so quit trying to convince that he cant play on this team. you think pop wont tell him that he will have to fit into a different type of role if he joins the spurs?
I think he would fit well. this is professional sports mind you. if youre a professional you dont go around sulking like a little kid and say that i cant stand so and so in the locker room so i wont play. shaq and kobe couldnt stand one another but what the heck they won championships together. chemistry isnt about who is whose best friend or if the team goes out shopping together. its about how the team fits best together.
if pop and buford have been on malone's tail for so long i think with their past track record of piecing the team together, we should trust what they are doing if they sign malone.
if pedro martinez were to sign for his daddy do you think that posada is not going to catch him? come on.
This is punk by Malone. Kobe was right to make the statement that the team can't sit around and wait for his decision. This looks like a calculated move IMO. Now Warm Karl won't have to play on a team going nowhere and he can use Kobe as a scapegoat for not returning to his old team while trying to gravy train a le on a second team. The pieces just fit perfectly. No one in the media is going to take Kobe's side anymore, and we'll hear a billion stories about how poor Karl was so hurt by Kobe's words and how he couldn't return. Boo ing hoo.
B-Bum tells the Malone story like it is!
The only thing I ask Base, is don't put up again that horrible avatar with Malone and the s.
Malone, pinche culero hijo de la chingada, ve a culearte una cabra.
Let's not forget another benefit of bringing in Malone which is that you keep him away from Minnesota. A Malone playing at the level which he did in the series against the Spurs last May is not a pleasant thought should the Spurs run into Minnesota in the playoffs this season.
The article says Malone isn't even deciding for a month or more if he's going to play or not. I don't think that he will play and if he does, he'll probably go to Miami just to keep the Shaq vs Kobe drama alive. I don't think the Spurs are going to add a player like Malone in February or later. Besides, his agent told the Spurs a few months ago that if Karl returned it would be to the Lakers only. So, how much can you actually believe?
Save the drama.
Here are my two cents on this...
Kobe Bryant is an egotistical maniac we all know that. But in this matter i dont think Kobe said anything wrong. Karl has been playing games ever since last season. Either hes returning or isnt. Many teams stayed in limbo land in order to aquire him in the off season. Many teams have wanted him back and the Lakers are one of those teams. Yet Karl still wasnt sure who he wanted to play for.
I think this is an excuse for Karl to leave the Lakers and go else where. Karl Malones number one objective right now is to win a ring before he retires. This gives Karl an opportunity to go to a team like the Spurs or even the Timberwolves who are contenders.
If this is what Karl is truely doing, then him. Go ahead and leave. But i hope his agent is blowing this out of proportion. If not someone give this man a damn midol.
Malone. He doesn't deserve a ring, especially not with us.
Read TJ Simmer's article in tomorrow's LA Times. It basically says the same think ill and I are saying.
Malone's such a freaking drama queen. He fit in perfectly on the Lakers and he should stay.
I'm assuming what was said in private is what has got Malone all pissy because if he is mad because of what Kobe said he's a little bizatch.
Let's not give Malone the pleasure of getting a ring. He can take his black redneck azz back to Utah!!
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