10,000 B.c.

[peewee's lovechild]

sounds like peewee's lovechild is still bitter as his parents for making him go to church and wants to just be pissed at goduh.

Yes, I'm pissed that they made me waste my time as a kid.

[peewee's lovechild]

the sun will get bigger, turn red and then swallow the earths atmosphere in 1/2 billion years..................the clock is ticking.

LOL!!

True, very true.

[Pistons < Spurs]

You see, "God" was needed in the past to explain the things we did not know. Thunder, lightning, hurricanes, erupting volcanoes, earthquakes, etc. However, science has explained all this phenomena. With each new discovery, god is diminished.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

No, in a thousand year the concept of God will be gone and done with.

You see, "God" was needed in the past to explain the things we did not know. Thunder, lightning, hurricanes, erupting volcanoes, earthquakes, etc. However, science has explained all this phenomena. With each new discovery, god is diminished.

The acceptance of human intelligence, independent of god, and the progress of science have made god irrelevant. Religion re s progress. Take for example Galileo. The "Church" was going to condemn him to death because he claimed that the Earth revolved around the Sun, not the other way around. Well, Galileo had to reverse his stance to avoid death, even though he muttered, "E por si move." (It still moves, referring to Earth moving). Each step of the way, religion has tried to hold science back. At first by killing and torturing those that made breakthroughs, and then by demanding that their flock turn their back on science. We see it now with our delisuional President that refuses to let our scientists do research on stem cells. Meanwhile, Europe's own research with stem cells has allowed scientists to grow heart valves, bladders, skin cells, etc.

Science has always proven religion wrong. And, it always will.

But, what I find real ironic is that if you or a close family member (a son/daughter perhaps) ever falls terminally ill and your only choice is to accept new scientific breakthroughs to save thier life, you would do it in a heart beat and forget about God real quick.

Funny thing is that you'd probably credit god rather than the actuall humans that made it possible.

Don't worry though, science isn't partial. It will always be there for you.

God will be there for you, too, if you ask.

I applaud science, and you're right, I'd bet there are forces at work guiding these men in their scientific discoveries.

For the record, I have beaten an illness that could easily have been terminal, and yes I gave credit to God who I know guided me to the right doctors with the knowledge to help me overcome.

I also gave some small credit to the Chopper, for being a badass with huge stones capable of overcoming anything.

peepee, I'll bet when you're about to kick it, you'll reach out to God, I have no doubt. I've been close, so I know first hand. I'd be glad to be there to collect when this happens. I'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

Deep in your heart you believe, that's why you try so adamantly to explain away this wonderful existence and amazing universe as being an accident. It's cool, I've been through it myself.

[peewee's lovechild]

God will be there for you, too, if you ask.

I applaud science, and you're right, I'd bet there are forces at work guiding these men in their scientific discoveries.

For the record, I have beaten an illness that could easily have been terminal, and yes I gave credit to God who I know guided me to the right doctors with the knowledge to help me overcome.

I also gave some small credit to the Chopper, for being a badass with huge stones capable of overcoming anything.

peepee, I'll bet when you're about to kick it, you'll reach out to God, I have no doubt. I've been close, so I know first hand. I'd be glad to be there to collect when this happens. I'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

Deep in your heart you believe, that's why you try so adamantly to explain away this wonderful existence and amazing universe as being an accident. It's cool, I've been through it myself.

Dude, you're dellusional. You give "credit to God" who you "know guided" you "to the right doctors with the knowledge" to help you overcome your illness???

That's a bull cop-out.
Keep in mind this: God wasn't the one who oversaw you back to health. It wasn't a winged angel. It wasn't Jesus in all his glory in the hospital with you.

Doctors. Human beings. Simple human beings that used the many, many years of research and expirementation. Simple human beings that used THEIR knowledge to help bring you back to health. And, you on them bringing you back from near death to give thanks to god????

It's a good thing that god likes you, and that he was there for you. Because, I'll tell you this: He doesn't like people in the Sudan, Ethiopia, Rawanda, Somalia, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Mozambique, India, Bangladesh, Tibet, Iraq, Afganistan, Yemen, Iran, Sri Lanka, Mongolia, and Malaysia just to name a few.

All these countries are suffering. People die every day. Children die at a rate of 5 every half hour. All these countries are lacking in modern medical care. All these countries are lacking scientists to lead the way. All these countries turn to their gods, and all their gods have cast a blind eye.

But, it's a good thing your god has a particular liking to Americans. It's a lucky break for you. I'm glad you can believe that bull . Good for you.

But, don't you for one second try to lecture me and tell me that deep down inside I believe in your pretentious, backward beliefs. I've never presumed to know what you believe. I'm at odds with what you believe, but I've never presumed to tell you what you believe.

you!!
I don't believe in your childish, selfish, vindictive god.

I never will.

[ashbeeigh]

you!!
I don't believe in your childish, selfish, vindictive god.

I never will.

EHJ was never asking you to believe in his God peewee, he was just sharing his experience. Yet again, there is no reason to get so angry with people about "our God." Spurstalk is a very diverse community. It wasn't until you started these last two threads that we've had these discussions (aside from one other one that I can remember..). We're a happy bunch that love basketball and love talking about movies, tacos, current events, NorCal's supposed blackness and a bunch of other assorted topics during the off-season. I'm surprised you haven't attacked SAButta's thread that asked for prayers yet. I respect your opinions, but not when they're spouted out for not reason. This was one of them.

[SCdac]

"10,000 BC" looks pretty cool. Sabertooth tigers are the . Any movie with an accurate portrayal of them, I'll probably see. The maker of "Independence Day" and "The Day After Tomorrrow" tackling this idea, I don't see as a downside in this particular case. Though I could understand the skepticism. Let's hope Emmerich learned from flops like "The Day After Tomorrow" and "Godzilla", and turns this movie into something worth watching more than once. His "Stargate" film was something I enjoyed much.

In other movie news, I'm excited to see "Sunshine". Getting a chance to watch it this upcoming tuesday. Been anticipating it for awhile, or since I've seen the trailer at least. Not only looking forward to the superb special effects, but it looks like such a drama piece.

Peewee, if it makes you feel any better, I couldn't agree with you anymore. Actually believing in a "God" is a scary notion to me too, let alone attributing every advancement or every morsel of success to "him". Not quite in line with reality in my opinion, but to each their own. Some people have been convinced, or convinced themselves, there is a "God", to the point of no return. Not even worth talking about in many cases. Dealing with something that people are so emotionally attached to, fact and reason go out the door. Belief and faith are end-all-be-all. I'm sure you don't need to be told any of this, just sayin, I see where you're coming from.

[Extra Stout]

Atheists who really are at peace with their beliefs are rarely so hostile about it as peewee here is.

[BacktoBasics]

Dude, you're dellusional. You give "credit to God" who you "know guided" you "to the right doctors with the knowledge" to help you overcome your illness???

That's a bull cop-out.
Keep in mind this: God wasn't the one who oversaw you back to health. It wasn't a winged angel. It wasn't Jesus in all his glory in the hospital with you.

Doctors. Human beings. Simple human beings that used the many, many years of research and expirementation. Simple human beings that used THEIR knowledge to help bring you back to health. And, you on them bringing you back from near death to give thanks to god????

It's a good thing that god likes you, and that he was there for you. Because, I'll tell you this: He doesn't like people in the Sudan, Ethiopia, Rawanda, Somalia, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Mozambique, India, Bangladesh, Tibet, Iraq, Afganistan, Yemen, Iran, Sri Lanka, Mongolia, and Malaysia just to name a few.

All these countries are suffering. People die every day. Children die at a rate of 5 every half hour. All these countries are lacking in modern medical care. All these countries are lacking scientists to lead the way. All these countries turn to their gods, and all their gods have cast a blind eye.

But, it's a good thing your god has a particular liking to Americans. It's a lucky break for you. I'm glad you can believe that bull . Good for you.

But, don't you for one second try to lecture me and tell me that deep down inside I believe in your pretentious, backward beliefs. I've never presumed to know what you believe. I'm at odds with what you believe, but I've never presumed to tell you what you believe.

you!!
I don't believe in your childish, selfish, vindictive god.

I never will.

That was a great post!!!!!

I'm still interested in hairy pits and vaginas though.

[ShoogarBear]

the sun will get bigger, turn red and then swallow the earths atmosphere in 1/2 billion years..................the clock is ticking.

Fortunately, I plan to make a rocket ship, swaddle my son in a red cape, and send him off to a planet with a different-colored sun.

[Avitus1]

Fortunately, I plan to make a rocket ship, swaddle my son in a red cape, and send him off to a planet with a different-colored sun.

That gives me a great idea for a bad movie!

[Avitus1]

Atheists who really are at peace with their beliefs are rarely so hostile about it as peewee here is.

Some people just like to stir the pot.

[scott]

Looks like a cool movie, despite the director. We just got to keep Michael Bay and Jerry Bruckheimer away from it...

[Avitus1]

Could be worse could be directed by Kurt Wimmer, or Uwe Boll. Ugh...

[Tippecanoe]

Dude, you're dellusional. You give "credit to God" who you "know guided" you "to the right doctors with the knowledge" to help you overcome your illness???

That's a bull cop-out.
Keep in mind this: God wasn't the one who oversaw you back to health. It wasn't a winged angel. It wasn't Jesus in all his glory in the hospital with you.

Doctors. Human beings. Simple human beings that used the many, many years of research and expirementation. Simple human beings that used THEIR knowledge to help bring you back to health. And, you on them bringing you back from near death to give thanks to god????

It's a good thing that god likes you, and that he was there for you. Because, I'll tell you this: He doesn't like people in the Sudan, Ethiopia, Rawanda, Somalia, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Mozambique, India, Bangladesh, Tibet, Iraq, Afganistan, Yemen, Iran, Sri Lanka, Mongolia, and Malaysia just to name a few.

All these countries are suffering. People die every day. Children die at a rate of 5 every half hour. All these countries are lacking in modern medical care. All these countries are lacking scientists to lead the way. All these countries turn to their gods, and all their gods have cast a blind eye.

But, it's a good thing your god has a particular liking to Americans. It's a lucky break for you. I'm glad you can believe that bull . Good for you.

But, don't you for one second try to lecture me and tell me that deep down inside I believe in your pretentious, backward beliefs. I've never presumed to know what you believe. I'm at odds with what you believe, but I've never presumed to tell you what you believe.

you!!
I don't believe in your childish, selfish, vindictive god.

I never will.

well said my friend.

[peewee's lovechild]

EHJ was never asking you to believe in his God peewee, he was just sharing his experience. Yet again, there is no reason to get so angry with people about "our God." Spurstalk is a very diverse community. It wasn't until you started these last two threads that we've had these discussions (aside from one other one that I can remember..). We're a happy bunch that love basketball and love talking about movies, tacos, current events, NorCal's supposed blackness and a bunch of other assorted topics during the off-season. I'm surprised you haven't attacked SAButta's thread that asked for prayers yet. I respect your opinions, but not when they're spouted out for not reason. This was one of them.

You know, I've run out of words to describe your stupidity. Here's what EHJ wrote, verbatim:

Deep in your heart you believe, that's why you try so adamantly to explain away this wonderful existence and amazing universe as being an accident. It's cool, I've been through it myself.

That's the beef I had with EHJ. The previous beef I had with you guys is that I started a thread talking to someone else who has a troll named "GOD". You would know that if you pay attention. You, and all your other bible touting, self rightous, fellow christians decided to make it into a relgious revival. No one ever asked for that. All it was, was two people talking to each other. Then, the Holy Police tried to take over. I just responed in kind.

I'm not angry at you "believers". I just think that you're dellusional sheep that believe what someone, who happens to make A LOT of money ripping off said sheep, tells you to believe.

[peewee's lovechild]

"10,000 BC" looks pretty cool. Sabertooth tigers are the . Any movie with an accurate portrayal of them, I'll probably see. The maker of "Independence Day" and "The Day After Tomorrrow" tackling this idea, I don't see as a downside in this particular case. Though I could understand the skepticism. Let's hope Emmerich learned from flops like "The Day After Tomorrow" and "Godzilla", and turns this movie into something worth watching more than once. His "Stargate" film was something I enjoyed much.

In other movie news, I'm excited to see "Sunshine". Getting a chance to watch it this upcoming tuesday. Been anticipating it for awhile, or since I've seen the trailer at least. Not only looking forward to the superb special effects, but it looks like such a drama piece.

Peewee, if it makes you feel any better, I couldn't agree with you anymore. Actually believing in a "God" is a scary notion to me too, let alone attributing every advancement or every morsel of success to "him". Not quite in line with reality in my opinion, but to each their own. Some people have been convinced, or convinced themselves, there is a "God", to the point of no return. Not even worth talking about in many cases. Dealing with something that people are so emotionally attached to, fact and reason go out the door. Belief and faith are end-all-be-all. I'm sure you don't need to be told any of this, just sayin, I see where you're coming from.

Well said.

And, I can't wait for Sunshine too.
Danny Boyle is a great director

[peewee's lovechild]

That was a great post!!!!!

I'm still interested in hairy pits and vaginas though.

So am I.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

all u morons are trying to play tug-of-war without a rope.

[peewee's lovechild]

all u morons are trying to play tug-of-war without a rope.

[ashbeeigh]

I'm not angry at you "believers". I just think that you're dellusional sheep that believe what someone, who happens to make A LOT of money ripping off said sheep, tells you to believe.

You need to look into how much those in ministry make. It's a lot less than you think. A lot less.

[peewee's lovechild]

You need to look into how much those in ministry make. It's a lot less than you think. A lot less.

Do you remember Jim and Tammy Baker??
She's still making money ripping off people in the name of Christ and God.

You need to see how much Phil Graham has made. How much Jerry Falwell has made. How much the Pope and all his cronies have made for thousands of years. How the Christian network and Pat Robertson's 700 Club have raped the poor and the elderly out of their hard earned money by making them fear their fates after death.

Yea, I'm sure some in the ministry are honest and have a modest living. But, that's a very small percentage. The majority have a lust for money that is unmatchable.

[Burn531]

That flick looks pretty cool.

[ashbeeigh]

Yea, I'm sure some in the ministry are honest and have a modest living. But, that's a very small percentage. The majority have a lust for money that is unmatchable.

You contradicted yourself. How am I supposed to believe you?


Phil Graham, John Hagee, Tammy Fay, etc. are the exception to the rule. Coming from a person considering ministry instead of getting a license in a professional field, I seriously am asking you to look up the salary of an average Evangelical pastor. Not a mega-church, on tv preaching every day, on tour, writing books, preacher. I'm talking, going to hospitals to be with members of their congregation, up at the middle of the night answering pastoral calls and being at their home church every day trying to find the budget to get air conditioning for their church. Look into it.

[E20]

He doesn't like people in the Sudan, Ethiopia, Rawanda, Somalia, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Mozambique, India, Bangladesh, Tibet, Iraq, Afganistan, Yemen, Iran, Sri Lanka, Mongolia, and Malaysia just to name a few.

Most of those countries aren't Christian.

Where is Hegamboa? LMAO