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    Lets say Scola does average 15 and 5. Are those the numbers you want out of a pf? MAYBE out of a sf, but that rebounding is terrible.

    Especially considering he is going to get those numbers if he starts. If he is getting 20mpg, he will be lucky to get 8 and 4.

    butler will see no playing time in houston.

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    I don't care what they actually do next year. It doesn't matter.

    What will always matter is that the Spurs should have gotten a lot more for them, and could have, but they didn't want to have to pay any salaries now, or on a first-round pick.

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    I don't care what they actually do next year. It doesn't matter.

    What will always matter is that the Spurs should have gotten a lot more for them, and could have, but they didn't want to have to pay any salaries now, or on a first-round pick.
    How about actually using the talent they had on hand? Butler didn't have to be moved. Scola could fit in a Spurs rotation with TD now resting 15 minutes a night. To me that was the better alternative than gifting those two to a rival.

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    Maybe the Spurs could have used Butler and Scola. I don't know, that's up for debate. It's also up for debate how much the Rockets will get out of Scola and Butler. I don't pretend to be able to predict the future, but I think they both will help the Rockets.

    However, the fact is the Spurs basically said to the Rockets, "here, at ZERO RISK to you, take these two players who, in the worst-case scenario, will only suck up $5 million of cap space, and in the meantime, we will do nothing to help ourselves." How much effort would it have taken to get a first-round draft pick from Houston? If Scola had been eligible for this year's draft, he would probably have been a top 15-20 pick.

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    Scola: 15, 6.5, 1 bpg

    Butler: 6 & 5
    Allow me to revise after further consideration for a transition period and an assumption that Yao and McGrady won't miss major time

    Scola: 12.5, 6, 1.0

    Butler: 5 & 3.5

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    Allow me to revise after further consideration for a transition period and an assumption that Yao and McGrady won't miss major time

    Scola: 12.5, 6, 1.0

    Butler: 5 & 3.5
    I'm sure he can get better than that easily, even with Yao and Tmac sharing the scoring load.

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    scola 10 and 4

    butler - no significant playing time

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    Scola looks like laid out a loud burp and @ his eye.

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    I just cant wait for the first Spurs/Rockets game, with Scola battling Tim....and Tim owning him.

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    Scola: 9 and 4
    Butler: 6 and 3 with 3 assists in 2 and a half minutes per game. Is passed out under own basket rest of time.

    Seriously though...if Jackie makes the rotation he'll put up good numbers and Adelman will love his passing...however, that won't make him run up and down the court any better.

    I'll say 4 and 2 for Jackie in an IR fodder year.


    Only because Adelman doesn't like rookies any more than any other coach of a playoff contender....but Adelman is going to be intrigued by Jackie's passing. It'll be a contest to see how long he can handle Jackie playing like it's a YMCA game and taking 40% of the plays off if the mood hits him.

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    I'm sure he can get better than that easily, even with Yao and Tmac sharing the scoring load.

    And Banzi....and Luther Head...and whoever the PG is...

    Mike James?


    And Juwan if he's still there...

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    And Banzi....and Luther Head...and whoever the PG is...

    Mike James?


    And Juwan if he's still there...

    Juwan was traded to Minnesota

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    Scola to avg - 10ppg 6rpg.

    and 15ppg 9 rpg when Ming goes down for his yearly injury.

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    Both make the all-star team and lead Houston to the le.

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    I just cant wait for the first Spurs/Rockets game, with Scola battling Tim....and Tim owning him.

    who's going to guard Yao

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    Scola - 8 and 4 this season. 13 and 5 the following year.
    Butler two seasons from now - 9 and 6.
    Agreed.

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    who's going to guard Yao
    Who's Scola going to guard.
    Brand?
    KG?
    Duncan?
    Dirk?
    West?
    Aldridge?
    Odom?

    Scola is quite possibly a defensive mismatch made in heaven for other teams. Can't wait to see his +/-s and the foul trouble he'll be in could limit him to 15 MPG. Spurs may have used him effectively as a spot energy guy, but the Rockets penciling him in as their starting PF to play heavy minutes.

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    it´s depends on the minutes they get.
    Scola averaging 30 MPG=10/5(in roockie season)
    Butler can be usefull for them too,coze Yao tends to get in foul trouble all the time.
    Butler can be a 4/4 guy next year with 15 mpg,and if he keeps loosing weigth and working out.

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    Who's Scola going to guard.
    Brand?
    KG?
    Duncan?
    Dirk?
    West?
    Aldridge?
    Odom?

    Scola is quite possibly a defensive mismatch made in heaven for other teams. Can't wait to see his +/-s and the foul trouble he'll be in could limit him to 15 MPG. Spurs may have used him effectively as a spot energy guy, but the Rockets penciling him in as their starting PF to play heavy minutes.
    Manu´s +/- were always better when He was on the court in the Arg.National team,It could happen the same to T-Mac.Who knows.
    As far as difense goes on the NBA I think It would take him half of the reg season to adjust to the NBA rules and way of play.

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    Oberto, a better defender than Scola, is a foul machine and has trouble staying on the floor against the better PFs. and Cs Where does that leave Scola?

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    Oberto, a better defender than Scola, is a foul machine and has trouble staying on the floor against the better PFs. and Cs Where does that leave Scola?
    ok,First of all,let me say I love Fabri.
    Now,when I comes to compare him with Scola,it goes down like this..................
    Scola´s BBIQ>Oberto´s BBIQ
    Scola´s defense>>>Oberto´s Difense
    Scola´s Offense>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oberto´s Offense.
    Plus Luis is way more Athletic and faster tham Fabricio.

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    you´ll see it next season.They´ll probably have to guard eachother.

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    ok,First of all,let me say I love Fabri.
    Now,when I comes to compare him with Scola,it goes down like this..................
    Scola´s defense>>>Oberto´s Difense
    First time I've heard that. When the Argentine's played the USA who was on Duncan?

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    First time I've heard that. When the Argentine's played the USA who was on Duncan?
    Ask J.O´Niel,who was guarding him when USA played Argentina.and also ask him what happened.

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    First time I've heard that. When the Argentine's played the USA who was on Duncan?
    The best ofensive player is often kept from guarding the oposing offensive star, even when he's good at D. Just a matter of keeping your best inside ofennse fresh and out of foul trouble I guess.

    But yes, I consider Oberto's D better than Scola most of the time, however, in important games, and when needed, I've seen good D executed by Luis against the best inside player of the rival team, he is still foul prone, but when asked or needed, he has managed to show good D.

    IMO, he has the potential to have defense, only was assigned the less dangerous player to defend most of the time and saved energy, it wasn't lack of D skills most of the time.

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