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    we're going to spend 675 billion on the military next year.

    the next highest military budget in the world: russia 70 billion

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    we're going to spend 675 billion on the military next year.

    the next highest military budget in the world: russia 70 billion
    5.14% of our $13,130,000,000,000.00 GDP vs. 4.02% of their $1,746,000,000.00 GDP is pretty much equal, if you ask me.

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    we're going to spend 675 billion on the military next year.

    the next highest military budget in the world: russia 70 billion
    Well, we definately cant have that. The military quite obviously, needs more money.

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    5.14% of our $13,130,000,000,000.00 GDP vs. 4.02% of their $1,746,000,000.00 GDP is pretty much equal, if you ask me.
    Well, GDP is what seperates the winners from losers in war. See VN.

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    In other words, turn us into a military state like Israel.
    Look at my words please. That is a NO! I am not real good at English composure, but I am generally pretty good at using the qualifiers.

    I said "the highest of priorities."

    I did not say "the highest priority."

    This has become an interesting thread. I started a whole list of things and put it together rather quickly, but then just posted my first few sections. With other peoples thoughts, I can now modify some of mine.

    I'll say now, I can go for the "Fair Tax" in fact I am in favor of it and have Neal Boortz's book on the subject. I simply want a tax also that touches everybody equally. , I don't care if the social tax is 1%. I just want a tax that must affect everyone the same so politicians cannot use the tax system for votes within the class warfare context.

    I would dramatically expand the death penalty. My most extreme though would be to execute everyone convicted of a first degree crime that affects another person financially. Ultimate deterrents make people really think before they commit the crime. I am flat out tired of things like ID theft, house break ins, etc. Where I like we have so much of that, much goes unreported because the police cannot handle the load, and people give up.

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    I'm extraordinarily pleased to know that Wild Cobra will never be given the reigns to be Dictator of the Free World (which seems oxymoronic to me, but I digress).

    I pretty much fundamentally disagree with each point of that agenda.

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    I would dramatically expand the death penalty. My most extreme though would be to execute everyone convicted of a first degree crime that affects another person financially. Ultimate deterrents make people really think before they commit the crime. I am flat out tired of things like ID theft, house break ins, etc. Where I like we have so much of that, much goes unreported because the police cannot handle the load, and people give up.
    Would you have these executions performed via stonings, lynchings, or guillotine?

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    Would you have these executions performed via stonings, lynchings, or guillotine?
    With the number of executions he would be carrying out, none of those methods would be efficient or speedy enough. Gas chambers and subsequent incineration would do the trick.

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    I'm extraordinarily pleased to know that Wild Cobra will never be given the reigns to be Dictator of the Free World (which seems oxymoronic to me, but I digress).

    I pretty much fundamentally disagree with each point of that agenda.
    It is an oxymoron, but an interesting question, isn't it?

    I would also reestablish the one representative per 30,000 people we used to have. With modern communuications, they can live in their districs and acually represent the people.

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    10,000 representatives? That would be quite a palaver when Congress is in session.

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    I would also reestablish the one representative per 30,000 people we used to have. With modern communuications, they can live in their districs and acually represent the people.
    Now this I agree with -- a 9,381 member House of Representatives (Census 2000) would be off-the-charts efficient.

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    With the number of executions he would be carrying out, none of those methods would be efficient or speedy enough. Gas chambers and subsequent incineration would do the trick.
    Once you actually start doing it, crime will dramatically slow down. You can execute as many as time provides showing you are serious, then give the overloads a commuted sentence once they understand they don't have another chance. They system should then be able to handle carrying out the executions needed for justice.

    Look, I'm only talking about first degree crimes here. If people cannot live and participate in a civilized society, then they don't belong in society, nor should we waste the money on them with incarceration.

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    Once you actually start doing it, crime will dramatically slow down. You can execute as many as time provides showing you are serious, then give the overloads a commuted sentence once they understand they don't have another chance.
    You just killed the system before it left the ground.

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    well at least it would be more difficult to buy 10,000 representatives, of course at that point corporations really wouldnt have too... anarchists should be in favor of this plan.

    i love the expansion of the death penalty idea, anyone that commits a premeditated crime ought to be executed huh? Im super excited that the high ways will be so much slower now, because all the speeders will be dead within months

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    Once you actually start doing it, crime will dramatically slow down. You can execute as many as time provides showing you are serious, then give the overloads a commuted sentence once they understand they don't have another chance. They system should then be able to handle carrying out the executions needed for justice.

    Look, I'm only talking about first degree crimes here. If people cannot live and participate in a civilized society, then they don't belong in society, nor should we waste the money on them with incarceration.
    So you will only execute as many people as the state has the resources to carry out.

    Your deterrent just went POOF!

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    Of course, you have to admit that if Wild Cobra were able to execute everyone within the ambit of that plan, the goal of having one representative for every 30,000 people would be much easier to achieve.

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    Of course, you have to admit that if Wild Cobra were able to execute everyone within the ambit of that plan, the goal of having one representative for every 30,000 people would be much easier to achieve.
    Yes, but under that system, entire communities would disappear.

    oh, i guess that's your point. nevermind

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    WC's plan also takes care of poverty.

    If we process the executees into biofuels, it could help wean us off foreign oil too.

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    The US military will have the highest of spending priorities.
    Been there done that. The U.S. spends annually almost as much of the rest of the world combined and what for? What we really need is a streamlining of existing military spending based on future priorities and a budget cut of 25% across the board on almost all military spending.

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    Social programs will be cut dramatically except those affecting the elderly, disabled, short term needy, and children.
    What 'other' social programs are there? Oh that's right, the arts.......

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    The national debt will be paid down every year except in times of recession or unexpected expenditures or ongoing military wartime spending.
    Welcome to perpetual war....

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    The concept of a republic and states rights will be returned. No more government handouts to states except for large projects individually authorized buy congress and the president as deemed necessary.
    How are the poor in red states supposed to survive?

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    What's so fair about the fair-tax anyway?

    Consumption taxes would be paid on all non essential items with each class having its own rate and/or method. Things like basic food items, toilet paper, toothpaste, etc. would have no tax. Prepared food would be taxed.
    So the poor who spend 100% of their annual income would pay 100% on taxes, minus food, while some rich guy who only consumes 30% of his annual income only pays taxes on 30% of his yearly income....yeah, that' fair....

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    Corporate and business taxes would be eliminated. Compe ion would reduce prices, and help be more compe ive in the world markets when taxes are not part of the cost of doing business.
    We subsidize businesses with things like questionable amortization deductions, and corporate grants and we still can't compete with .38 en cents an hour....

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    Tariffs would be applied to all items imported that are like items we make here, or have historically made here. Rates will be set such that imports do not undercut USA manufactured items, and are still compe ive. Items that are unique to other countries could be exempted from tariffs, on a case by case basis.
    Can you say tariff war? While I agree that we need to protect domestic manufacturing I think there are better ways to do it than start a import-tax war...

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