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interesting that the same poster who has major questions about the cubs pitching staff is trying to build up the cardinals as being back into it (now, that's a mediocre starting staff at best - without exception).
That's called rooting for your team. Not everyone likes to quit on their team the way you did.
interesting that the same poster who has major questions about the cubs pitching staff is trying to build up the cardinals as being back into it (now, that's a mediocre starting staff at best - without exception).
Milwaukee is hardcore in the drivers seat, all right. If Chicago wins tomorrow, they become tied for first place. Plus, Milwaukee has more losses than Chicago - meaning CHICAGO is officially currently in the drivers seat.
I'm not going to let T Park live this down
still hanging onto that?Not everyone likes to quit on their team the way you did.
I notice you don't post much ragging on Tony parker also there bigshot.
4 back in the loss column of first place.interesting that the same poster who has major questions about the cubs pitching staff is trying to build up the cardinals as being back into
How is that not back into it?
go ahead and not let me live it down, i couldn't give a .Milwaukee is hardcore in the drivers seat, all right. If Chicago wins tomorrow, they become tied for first place. Plus, Milwaukee has more losses than Chicago - meaning CHICAGO is officially currently in the drivers seat.
I'm not going to let T Park live this down
, Milwaukee has been more successfull in the playoffs than the ing Cubs.
Live that down.
MILWAUKEE
World Championships - 0
League Pennants - 1
Division les - 1
Wild Cards - 0
CHICAGO CUBS
World Championships - 2
League Pennants - 16
Division les - 3
Wild Cards - 1
This stuff is so easy to find nowadays - look it up before you post stupid .
Well, there goes your credibility on baseball knowledge.
To further piss on the Cardinals and T-Park, here's the latest odds of making the playoffs from Baseball Prospectus, who have simulated the rest of the season 1,000,000 times.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/st...werspsodds.php
Code:BREWERS 57.7093% CHI CUBS 61.2619% ST LOUIS 3.0335% HOUSTON .0655% CINCINNATI .0669% PITTSBURGH .0027%
Brewers Lose!!! Cubs Win!!!
THE CHICAGO CUBS ARE IN FIRST PLACE - AND THE CALENDAR SAYS AUGUST!!!
Who is HARDCORE in the drivers seat, T-Park???Code:Central Division Standings: W L PCT GB CHICAGO 57 49 .538 --- Milwaukee 58 50 .537 --- St Louis 50 54 .481 6.0 Houston 46 61 .430 11.5 Cincinnati 45 63 .417 13.0 Pittsburgh 43 62 .410 13.5
coming from beno Udrih's biggest fan thats a compliment.Well, there goes your credibility on baseball knowledge.
Once again Cubs fan. Get excited now.
You bozos usually do.
Huh?To further piss on the Cardinals and T-Park, here's the latest odds of making the playoffs from Baseball Prospectus, who have simulated the rest of the season 1,000,000 times.
I can't hear you
I've got 10 world championship rings in my ear.
What was wrong with 2003?
So now I'm Beno Udrih's biggest fan?
Wow. You just like to make this up as you go along huh?
like you said:
MILWAUKEE
World Championships - 0
League Pennants - 1
Division les - 1
Wild Cards - 0
CHICAGO CUBS
World Championships - 2
League Pennants - 16
Division les - 3
Wild Cards - 1
This stuff is so easy to find nowadays - look it up before you post stupid .
MILWAUKEE
World Championships - 1
League Pennants - 3
Division les - 1
Wild Cards - 0
Last edited by dmac; 08-02-2007 at 10:26 AM.
Never in 2003 did the Cubs put together a 16-4 run.
You made the thread....So now I'm Beno Udrih's biggest fan?
Wow. You just like to make this up as you go along huh?
They did though have one hilarious choke job thoughNever in 2003 did the Cubs put together a 16-4 run.
st. louis is a team that has been outscored by almost 100 runs this season. that tells me that - even at the mediocrity they have displayed this year - they are very lucky to have the record that they do, and it's taken smoke and mirrors to do it. without major additions, they are more likely to collapse and finish with 70-75 wins than they are to be a legit contender in mid-september.
Damn you guys made a climb, thats awesome. Good job man!!
a) The stats don't back you there. Actually, all 5 of the Cubs starters are pitching above the league average. And - with the possible exception of Marshall - it wouldn't surprise most people if they are able to maintain that course to the finish line. Lilly has always had great stuff, he just has walked too many people - which he's not doing now. Those of us who follow the minor leagues have known about Hill for a long time now. This guy should have been in the middle of the rotation 2+ years ago. And Marquis has been this good before, just not last year.
It may not be a staff lined up well for October, but it's the best starting rotation in the division right now - and it's not close.
b) And the Cardinals staff outside of Wainwright is flat out awful.
I don't have a dog in this fight (I'm a depressed O's fan), but your takes on the state of the NL central are interesting to say the least. I would wonder how far someone would have to get their head up Pujols' ass for the view to like this...
What can I say, I like world champions...I would wonder how far someone would have to get their head up Pujols' ass for the view to like this...
The rotation is mediocre, BUT, they have not had alot of run support all year, and that has been about 90% of the problem.
Watching their games you would've seen that.
If Mark Mulder can come back and be decent, give 5 6 innings and give up 2 3 runs, you replace a guy like Maroth, then the worst starter is Braden Looper, who is almost a 10 game winner.
Once again, stats don't tell the whole story.
mediocre = average, middle, normal, par.
I like Wainwright, but past him, the Cards' staff is just plain bad.
Sorry, but when 4 out of every 5 days you are trotting out a guy with an ERA of 5+, you can't say that run support has been the problem.
As for Looper (who I root for as a former WSU Shocker), his peripheral stats point to a guy who should be 4-10, not 8-9. Run support has actually saved him from a much worse record. W/L are one of the absolute worst stats to use to judge the effectiveness a starting pitcher.
cubbie stagger recently. good thing for them milwaukee isn't doing anything about it.
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