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The offseason isn't over. Anyways, the Spurs have kept Beno around this long because the talent is there even though the spirit might not be. He cost the Spurs $967K last season. Stop the presses.
When are the Spurs going to have the window they will have over the next couple of seasons to win multiple championships ever again? Excuse the Spurs making bad personnel moves to reduce their payroll to your heart's content, but now is no time to cut corners, especially when that entails giving away talent to a playoff team in your division.
The Spurs won a le last season without facing Dallas due to the greatest upset in NBA playoff history and with Phoenix being a couple men down for a crucial Game 5. The distance between the Spurs and those two teams is not as great as you might wish. It's certainly not enough to justify putrid moves like giving away a couple of low post scoring bigmen to Houston.
The offseason isn't over. Anyways, the Spurs have kept Beno around this long because the talent is there even though the spirit might not be. He cost the Spurs $967K last season. Stop the presses.
The cheapness/thriftiness of the Spurs has been standard operating procedure since their beginning. Spurs fans don't have experience living any other way.
if that guy's figure of holt being worth $83 mil is true, then the savings from the trade was about 8 percent of holt's worth. for me, that would be more than $2,400 for the year, and i'd bet anyone that they'd be unwilling to let that kind of money go out of their own pocket just to make someone not related by blood happy. someone else's reasoning about new york throwing money to marginal players applies here: butler, to this point, has been marginal, and scola, if houston's need for a power forward are discounted, sounds like a marginal player in the juwan howard mold. plus the fact the spurs actually paid the luxary tax this year and this was the fan reception to their efforts (still calling the team cheap), and if i were an owner, i'd have even more of a reason to ignore the masses and try to amass some dough.
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Well he is the expert, ya know..
2006-07 salaries for Spurs whose contracts end after next season:
Brent Barry $5.2 mil
Bruce Bowen $3.8 mil
Robert Horry $3.3 mil
Francisco Elson $3 mil
Michael Finley $2.9 mil
Beno Udrih $1.7 mil (2007-08 salary)
Total $19.9 mil
It's not like the Spurs are locked into their current payroll level for the next 4 to 5 seasons.
New York has carried those large payrolls because they haven't had the luxury of the league's best player.
I don't follow the logic. Giving away a couple of low post scoring bigmen, that the Spurs apparently don't feel they want or need, makes Phoenix and Dallas better how?
The difference between the Spurs and the Mavs/Suns is not that great, so now is no time to give away talent. Giving those players away to a playoff team in your own division isn't that great either.
Fairly clear, I thought.
No, you were clear...I think the difference lies in the fact that you and others on the board see Butler as a 'talent' and a 'low post scorer' while others view him as a formerly fat, still lazy marginal prospect at best.
He wouldn't be the first 'fat, lazy' prospect to turn it around.
Oh, and you forgot Scola.
The Spurs have over $20 mil coming off their payroll next summer with Splitter and Mahinmi at $700K each waiting in the wings. How can anyone possibly expect them to spend more?
Some are pounding pitchers full.
Talk about spoiled...
Yes, the Spurs have been spoiled by Tim Duncan falling into their lap.
Peter Holt is majority owner with x number of partners. If you owned a piece of the team would you want the team to LOSE money by paying the Luxury tax. I think most of the ownership group just want to break even. Remember Holt is spending their money too.
If the Spurs don't win a another le for the rest of the Tim Duncan era, they will still have done better than 90% of all other teams in NBA history, in the entire history of those teams, much less a single player defined era. And the teams that have done better, have been just as lucky...moreso. Pout about that.
So we should be happy because they didn't totally screw it up.
i for one think that Pop+RC know more than a bunch of "all knowing" fans
if they could get something good for Scola-they would!
It's got nothing to do with them screwing up...more to do with you just wanting Cuban for an owner.
How many ownership groups in the NBA would have that much of a problem going over the threshold to surround a player like Tim Duncan with the best possible supporting cast? That's what most Spurs fans don't seem able to grasp.
Sorry...I'm glad the Spurs don't think Butler and Scola are Shaq and Kobe...if you can show me those guys would increase our chances of a le...I might be willing to concede the point...we just won a le with Butler's ass on the bench, and he actually looked like he's regressed from his Knick days in the D-League..good luck proving that point.
And the only thing Scola is going to do is take shots and minutes away from Tim Duncan..without deserving them...I'm not sure how you can rationalize that as helping the team.
Duncan rested 14 minutes a night last season. Scola would've been a nice backup.
Hopefully the Spurs dump that worthless Barry soon. $5 mil per? Absolute robbery.
The situation which caused Scola and Butler's value to drop is no one elses fault but the Spurs. The way they handled both players made many teams disregard their value.
A solution could have been to put them both on the team and dump Barry's salary. If they really did not like them as players they should have given them some playing time to showcase them and then trade them to get something of more value back. This is a very old tactic that teams have used in all sports for decades.
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