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not if other mvp candiates got hurt to
dude is they why wade has to have shaq to win le
why kobe has not won a le with another supestar
why james has not won nothing
tp is not greater then kobe or wade but a team to win a le has to have 2 superstars and a third player to step up always
spurs have that with manu
not if other mvp candiates got hurt to
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Shaq provided foundation for Wade just like he did for Kobe. As long as Shaq can get 10 and 10 he is always a threat on the interior and will always attract attention thus giving Wade his needed space to operate.dude is they why wade has to have shaq to win le
See above and note that it doesn't require another superstar. It requires a strong interior presence that does what is listed above. Andrew Bynum may get there, Kwame Brown never will, and Lamar Odom would rather play outside-in. Even if they got Jermaine O'Neal, he would make them better but wouldn't be enough to get them past upper-echelon teams.why kobe has not won a le with another supestar
Again...Do Varejao or Ilgauskas provide what Duncan provides when it counts? Do they have the ability to control the court on both sides with their mere presence? Nope, the Spurs would leave them alone at times to concentrate D on LeBron. Could the Cavs do that with Tim? Nope, that is why Tony got so much spacing.why james has not won nothing
Ok Ducks, who was the 3rd star for Miami in 06?tp is not greater then kobe or wade but a team to win a le has to have 2 superstars and a third player to step up always, spurs have that with manu
And to me, a superstar is player who you can consistently count on to be effective. For as much as you LOVE TP, tell me...how many ALL-NBA Team placements does he have? Any All-NBA D? How about FIBA 1st teams? I love Parker I do, but I know that for now, his success is based on Pop's system and Tim's ability to draw double-teams on the block. Wait 4 seasons or so, and then it's up to Manu & Tony to carry the scoring load while Tim becomes more of a Horace Grant(During the Jordan Years) type player. Rebounds, blocks and positioning will be what Tim will focus on moreso than scoring.
I don't see the point in saying "If there was no Duncan."
If my aunt had nuts, she'd be my uncle, but she doesn't.
Naw, she'd be a tranny.
I don't think it works in reverse like that. Only dudes can turn into women, not vice versa.
Not quite, but he is well on his way to a hall of fame career.
But you just put a 'sack on her.
Parker has a good chance, if he continues at a high level. His stats will only become more impressive over time, because he has a great start and is only 25. He needs to make the All-Star team at least 2-3 more times.
Being married to Eva and being somewhat of a media celebrity will help him in 20 years. He will be remembered as a more "famous" player. And it is the Hall of "Fame."
Some day...but I predict Tony opts out in a couple of years and joins Starbury in Italy. "It's that Beckham thing" but with a French Twist!
everybody specially Chad Ford put parker now as one of the al time Spurs legends... man.. this was the FIRST time he showed up ina Finals series and everybody is forgetting how BADLY he was benched in the 2003 crown and his shaky play on the 2005 that got Manu the ball more often than ever... Spurs would have the same rings they do without him... he wouldn;t be Finals MVP if it wasn;t for Hughes Injoury... 2 more rings.. and he could be a HOF...
So you don't think Tony is a Spurs legend? He might not be HOF right now, but he already is the best pg the Spurs have ever had. And one of the all time best Spurs. Gervin never won a Finals MVP.
Tony's come a long way from Speedy Claxton getting his minutes in the 2003 Finals to winning the Finals MVP in 2007. Does it mean he is headed for the HOF? No.
Tony's game will only get better from here. We'll have to wait and see where it takes him, but I'd agree that five years from now is a good time to start this debate, not now when his game is starting to take off.
In Parker's defense in 03, he played well in Games 1-2 of the Finals before he disappeared.
Gervin never got closer than the Eastern Conference Finals, losing to the Bullets in 7.Gervin never won a Finals MVP
Having said that, Gervin never got the bigman help needed to get him over to the finals. Coby Dietrick, Billy Paultz, or post player not named Duncan or Robinson weren't good enough.
spurs were robbed against the bullets!
the point guard position is the hardest to rank, imo. tp has done pretty well in a system that is not pg-focused. i can't put him at the top, but i can put him in the top ten.
steve nash
jason kidd
tony parker
chris paul
deron williams
baron davis
chauncey billups
jason terry
i keep changing the order, i can't decide.
Well, I think only three Finals MVPs are not in the hall of fame or will likely be in the hall of fame (seeing as Shaq, Timmy, Dream, etc are all guaranteed HOFers).
These three are Dennis Johnson, Jo Jo White, and Cedric Maxwell.
Tony very well might be inducted.
Jason Terry......
I hate that Jet Terry is a Maverick but appreciate his skills. Money jumpshot and a decent defender. Plus since he studied under Lute Olson at the University of Arizona, that makes him viable.
People used to crack on Mike Finley too and now those same peeps love him.
So, Dux asked and I think any one of those 5 could've easily won a le as PG for the Spurs IN THE DUNCAN ERA.
My point was that Parker is definitly a Spurs legend.
Does that alone make him a Hall of Famer. I think the world of Sean Elliott and when I get to travel to San Antonio and go to the ATT Center I can look up and see his retired jersey...Does that mean I'll see his name there at the Basketball Hall of Fame?
I didn't say that made him a hall of famer. I was replying to somebody who seemed to think TP wasn't a Spurs legend.
definitely not yet. he's gotta really earn it this next year and then some.
There are several big names who are not in the HoF and who deserve it more than Parker if he were to end his career today: Dennis Johnson, Bernard King, Adrian Dantley, Kevin Johnson, Paul Westphal, Dennis Rodman.
That being said, I think Parker goes on to do a lot more in his career in the next 4-5 years which solidifies his entry into the Hall.
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