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I'm just wondering how anyone can judge since timvp didn't bother to post corresponding links to Manu and Parker.
the Whottttimvp Warrrrrs of summer 2007 are reaching a new low.
I'm just wondering how anyone can judge since timvp didn't bother to post corresponding links to Manu and Parker.
what wars? timvp is carrying a redass over the poll I made...I didn't expect him to win in a landslide either.
I still can't figure out how MB is only 3rd.
Spurs fans have seen Manu and Parker play.
@ Spanoulis being quicker than Parker
Spurs fans have seen Manu and Parker play.
Half these clowns are doing good to remember their own names...much less an accurate mental replay of Manu and Parker's first steps.
Judging by the lopsided poll it would appear that the other half still doesn't agree with you.
Technically doesn't he just have to be quicker than one or the other, i.e perhaps manu?Spurs fans have seen Manu and Parker play.
I'll give Whott some love and say his first step is quicker than Manu's.
And the other half couldn't win a D-league le if you gave them LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Allen Iverson, Elton Brande and Yao Ming.
Strictly speaking, no one could have won the D-League le with my squad. That's the nature of games played on the stat sheet. I couldn't have assembled an All-Star starting line-up without gutting the rest of my roster, although I did manage to turn Webber into Monta Ellis.
When the NBA moves to a trapezoid lane and pussy defensive rules let me know.
who cares? he'll never play with the spurs so quit dreaming of him running along with parker,scola on a 3 on 1 fastbreak
If Sabonis had all of his passing and shooting skills at the same time he had this athleticism, it's easy to see why he's ranked among the best centers of all time by people in the know.
I'd say Spanoulis was quicker than anyone (getting to the parking lot after Rocket Games).
Spanoulis also ran about as fast as anybody....(away from the NBA).
check this video out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94X7oyzlfeY
whottt is on crack about the first step...
Parker's first step is quicker than just about anyone in the NBA, and Spanoulis isn't even close.
Maybe the first step, but steps 3,4,5, and so on.....NO. Parker's quickness is even more deceptive with his tear drop. It comes out from nowhere. Manu is just flat out ERRATIC. You can't compare him with any player. With SPAM, you can tell the proximity of where he is going to put the ball up.
Bringing up another point. I can see now why the Spurs would be so tough to defend. We are truely 3-Dimensional Offensively speaking. Each of the BIG 3, have unique rhythm and timing. It not something you can look at on tape and prepare for. SPAM, you can prepare for. Just because he has quick feet (which is good) doesn't mean much other than, he's got quick feet. His rhythm and timing look pretty typical to me. BUT, that's just from the above clips.
Sabonis looks to have already slowed down considerably between this video and the 86 video. Maybe it's just choice cuts in the 86 video.
Why would I be mad about winning that poll?
"Who is doing the best job of whining and complaining about the Scola trade"
That sounds like a positive thing. If it was "who is doing the worst job", then I'd be wondering if my takes were off.
It's just annoying that whottt tries to pretend that he wouldn't have been all for any trade that sent Scola packing. The Spurs could have traded Scola and the next decade of first round picks for a sign and traded Karl Malone and he'd be defending it.
Just about...but I'd be honest about it if I thought this was a legitimately bad trade...you act like I automatically jock any trade the FO does...I don't, in fact this is probably only the second or third time I've felt that way.
The last time was when we got Kerr back...
Wasn't crazy about the Hedo trade.
Didn't like the Malik trade.
Didn't have much of an opinion on the Rasho trade.
Hmmm....
The Spurs could have traded Scola and the next decade of first round picks for a sign and traded Karl Malone and he'd be defending it.
Are we talking lottery picks?
I would have love to see the 80's Sabonis playing in the NBA... when you see what he did in the 95's with about 1/3 of his athletism remaining...
No, I said you hated Scola so much that you were overcome with joy that his azz was out of town.
And there's no way you can say I either jock or hate a move the Spurs make based on anything other than my opinion of the particular trade. I know the Spurs FO can make mistakes, but I also know that they are overall a very good FO.
I was the happiest person on SpursTalk after the Rasho trade. I said Bonner would be a Spur for a long time and that the Raptors would be regretting the trade within a year. 13 months later and that trade looks like gold.
I think it'll go down as one of the best trades in franchise history ... and I've said that since the beginning.
I said it was a no risk trade and it was. The Spurs lost nothing and got a guy who if his nvts didn't shrivel up, would probably still be on the team.
Neither did I, however I was right in saying it was a good short term trade because it would get Rasho out of the starting lineup. And guess what? Rasho out of the starting lineup and the Spurs win the championship.
Long term I said it was a bad trade and that was proven correct. whottt, on the other hand, was wrong about the short term success of the trade.
I don't know if you want to be admitting not having a take on that awesome of a trade.
Again, timvp's track record > whottt's track record as far as judging both the short term and long term effects of a trade. And this Scola trade will just add to that track record.
Why...what good does it do me to say I had a strong opinion on it when I didn't?
I still don't have that strong of an opinion on it...
Please don't tell me you are all of a sudden going to pull the finances card...why start now?
Bonner didn't do anymore in the post season than Rasho did...and I actully haven't seen Bonner do anything except choke...still, I haven't totally written him off as a choker...I'll have to see him play more important minutes. Sometimes the guys that choke in normal big situations(first playoff game or guys used to playing on losing teams suddendly on winning ones) turn out to be clutch in the clutchest of situations.
But otherwise....
Rasho didn't choke, in fact, he was actually pretty clutch when he would shoot late in games...he just didn't give a one way or the other really.
I personally am disappointed Rasho didn't amount to more...just based on talent he could have one of the best C's of this era IMO..he's got offensive and defensive game.
Again, timvp's track record > whottt's track record as far as judging both the short term and long term effects of a trade. And this Scola trade will just add to that track record.
Let me know when Rockets are carrying the O'Brien. Then we'll discuss it.
Last edited by whottt; 07-20-2007 at 04:12 AM.
Do you read what I post? One of the main reasons why I didn't like the Scola part was because the financial part didn't make sense. You don't salary dump a guy making less than half the MLE with one year on his contract. That didn't make financial sense.
You save way more money by salary dumping Barry. You save as much money salary dumping Beno and moving Barry to the third PG.
I can live with the Spurs doing a smart financial trade ... but this wasn't a smart financial trade. The Spurs did the trade because of money, no doubt ... but there were better ways of doing so.
And as far as the Rasho trade, that was a glorious financial trade. In the three years in which the Spurs were on the hook for $24M, they'll end up paying Bonner $9M.
The Spurs salary dumped a player who had little use and three bloated years left on his contract for two guys on expiring contracts and a second round pick. That is one of the best financial trades in NBA history. That fact that Bonner was a fit (like I said he would be) is just an added bonus.
You don't like Bonner. You are on record. And I won't let you forget that fact down the line.
Now you are just making things up. I remember Rasho hitting one meaningful clutch shot in his NBA career and that was against the Kings in the playoffs in his last year here. Other than that, he was rarely on the court in crunch time.
What games are you talking about?
*queue whottt not directly answering the question*
You could have saved yourself a lot of disappointment by just listening to timvp when he said the Rasho signing was a horrible one. I was adamantly against the signing.
And, even though Rasho is a nice guy and it was good to see him win a ring, I was right again. He was a horrible signing that the Spurs almost immediately regretted.
When Scola plays well and the Rockets are improved, you'll already be owned. Don't worry.
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