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    Unsigned #1 Draft Pick RonMexico's Avatar
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    Like I said I knew somthing was going on with refs in the NBA. I bet its more then one refs too. Like I said in the other thread Violet Pulmer needs to be questioned. Not being sexiest just saying she sucks so bad at being a ref its a little fishy.
    I don't think mobsters trust fat, stupid women with their money.

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    Oderint dum metuant freedom&justice's Avatar
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    Like I said I knew somthing was going on with refs in the NBA. I bet its more then one refs too. Like I said in the other thread Violet Pulmer needs to be questioned. Not being sexiest just saying she sucks so bad at being a ref its a little fishy.
    c'mon G$...I don't think Violet Palmer sucks because she's crooked..I think she sucks because she just does.
    Anyway, there's only one ref that's prominent for having the distinction of being the guy most NBA teams' fans have an acute distaste for, and that's Bennett Salvatore and his late whistle. But, I think he's in the clear on this one..and...its the NY Post. Why couldn't it have been the Times instead?

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    I refuse to act with common decency spurscenter's Avatar
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    WOW at first I thought it was a joke

    WOW

    i always think refs control games

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    On an even more serious note, FromWayDowntown is WayOff in his analysis because there is NO WAY the FBI is going to waltz into David Stern's office and be like: "one of your officials has huge gambling debts and is in deep with the mob." No, they're going to sit there, gather evidence, ensure that no one else like Stern, Ronnie Nunn, Stu Jackson, etc. is in on the scam and let at least 2 years of game-changing calls take their course. Also, mob guys are very su ious and if their boy starts getting pulled off huge games like Game 5 of the Finals, then they'll run underground.
    I see your point and admit that you're right. That got fleshed out earlier with reports that the referee in question is Tim Donaghy, who was calling games into 2nd round of the 2007 playoffs. I'll admit that I was wrong about my initial take.

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    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
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    I see your point and admit that you're right. That got fleshed out earlier with reports that the referee in question is Tim Donaghy, who was calling games into 2nd round of the 2007 playoffs. I'll admit that I was wrong about my initial take.

    I called you out on the same exact point, FWD, so apologize to me too.

    P.S. I called you out before Ron Mexico.

    P.S.S. Here's my quote:

    why would the FBI let on that they were investigating a ref? that could potentially screw up their entire investigation, because it would automatically cut off the potential to amass as much damning evidence as they could if the NBA were told and prematurely took a ref out of the rotation. Furthermore, how would the FBI know to trust David Stern or any of the top brass in the NBA? It's possible that if anyone was told by the FBI that they would spoil the investigation by letting the target of the investigation know what was happening. The FBI probably didn't know how high up the food chain the corruption went when it first began its investigation, so why would tell anyone who could have been a potential target?

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    I refuse to act with common decency spurscenter's Avatar
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    MARK CUBAN started the investigation

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    To all Mavs fans:

    The only game I could find so far with Tim Donaghy stench is Game 3 vs Golden State where we got pummeled 109-91.

    Flagrant Fouls: None
    Technicals: 3 DALLAS ( J Stackhouse 1, J Howard 1, D Harris 1 )
    Officials: Dan Crawford , Tim Donaghy , Joe Forte
    Attendance: 20,629
    Time: 02:34

    HHHMMMMMMmmm.....

    doesn't make up for the other games, but I think this one is where they destroyed us in the 3-game and just going to the rim....I remember watching this game at a strip club and being so sad....and after the game, being so sad with even less money.....

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    To all Mavs fans:

    The only game I could find so far with Tim Donaghy stench is Game 3 vs Golden State where we got pummeled 109-91.

    Flagrant Fouls: None
    Technicals: 3 DALLAS ( J Stackhouse 1, J Howard 1, D Harris 1 )
    Officials: Dan Crawford , Tim Donaghy , Joe Forte
    Attendance: 20,629
    Time: 02:34

    HHHMMMMMMmmm.....

    doesn't make up for the other games, but I think this one is where they destroyed us in the 3-game and just going to the rim....I remember watching this game at a strip club and being so sad....and after the game, being so sad with even less money.....
    Yeah, I went through the 06 playoffs, he didn't work a single game of ours. Just G3 against the Warriors -- and I don't think you can make a case that that one was cooked...BUT...it's going to be very easy for this to raise su ions and cast aspersions on all aspects of officiating.

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    Guys, guys, guys (Especially you Dallas fans), it says he made calls to AFFECT THE POINT SPREAD. I'm sorry, but one official cannot singlehandedly alter the outcome of a game.

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    Guys, guys, guys (Especially you Dallas fans), it says he made calls to AFFECT THE POINT SPREAD. I'm sorry, but one official cannot singlehandedly alter the outcome of a game.

    if one foul can alter the outcome, then why couldn't one official?

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    if one foul can alter the outcome, then why couldn't one official?
    No, the way a team plays the whole game, affects the outcome.

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    No, the way a team plays the whole game, affects the outcome.

    Well not really. A refs can affect it. Say a player is trying to get fouls called on the other team but agressivly going to the basket, the refs doesn't have to call if they doesn't want to but then on the other end when your defending they can call you or your whole team for anything, helping the other team to the line and stuff.

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    Guys, guys, guys (Especially you Dallas fans), it says he made calls to AFFECT THE POINT SPREAD. I'm sorry, but one official cannot singlehandedly alter the outcome of a game.

    If you can affect how one team can get a couple of more points against another team, you can essentially help decide the outcome.

    It only takes 1 point to beat another team.

    Spurs fans care more about if Tim Duncan gets thrown out of a game than this scandal. Whatta Joke

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    Guys, guys, guys (Especially you Dallas fans), it says he made calls to AFFECT THE POINT SPREAD. I'm sorry, but one official cannot singlehandedly alter the outcome of a game.



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    If you can affect how one team can get a couple of more points against another team, you can essentially help decide the outcome.

    It only takes 1 point to beat another team.

    Spurs fans care more about if Tim Duncan gets thrown out of a game than this scandal. Whatta Joke
    Doesn't matter. The Spurs are the champs. The Mavs, Suns, Rockets, Jazz, Nuggets, and Lakers were all fake playoff teams this season.

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    Doesn't matter. The Spurs are the champs. The Mavs, Suns, Rockets, Jazz, Nuggets, and Lakers were all fake playoff teams this season.
    But the Warriors were the real deal, the only equal of the Spurs. Impeccable logic again from SpursDynasty. Lock this thread now that SpursDynasty has weighed in. No further debate or conversation required.

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    I refuse to act with common decency spurscenter's Avatar
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    G MONEY THAT SIG iS HILARIOUS

    may I steal it?

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    Guys, guys, guys (Especially you Dallas fans), it says he made calls to AFFECT THE POINT SPREAD. I'm sorry, but one official cannot singlehandedly alter the outcome of a game.
    Another genius quote from SpursDynasty!!

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    I am shocked--shocked--that there is gambling going on here.

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    It seems more and more like our generation is one of cheats and fixes. I am convinced that most athletes in all sports are on performance enhancing drugs. Even if they aren't, you always wonder.

    My problem with basketball - college and NBA-- is that the refs really do have a lot of control over the game. The main reason is that basketball is a "no contact" sport by the rules, but in reality there is contact and holding on nearly every play. That gives the refs the ability to call, or not call, a foul almost whenever they want. While this is kind of true in every sport, I think it more so in basketball.

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    Doesn't matter. The Spurs are the champs. The Mavs, Suns, Rockets, Jazz, Nuggets, and Lakers were all fake playoff teams this season.
    LOL you were on Utah's all season long.....and now they're a fake playoff team???

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    If the news break I heard about 30 minutes ago is correct, I wish they could fry this guy. But then I feel that way about anyone who abuses their position for personal gain.

    Another link:

    FBI probes whether NBA ref bet on games

    The law enforcement official, who spoke to the AP on Friday on condition of anonymity, said the referee was aware of the investigation and had made arrangements to surrender as early as next week to face charges. The official, who did not identify the referee, is familiar with the investigation but was not authorized to speak publicly about the ongoing investigation.

    The law enforcement official said the bets involved thousands of dollars and were made on games during the 2005-2006 and 2006-2007 seasons.

    According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Donaghy officiated 68 games in the 2005-06 season and 63 games in 2006-07. He also worked 20 playoff games, including five last season.

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    I am 100% sure that er reffed Spurs vs. Mavs series last year.

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    It only takes 1 point to beat another team.
    Yes, but bets are usually placed with point spreads. If a team is favored in a bet by 5-1/2 points, then that team is the winning bet at a six point spread, but the bet loses at a 5 point spread.

    This indictment was about organized crime, fixing gambling! I'm sure there are refs in the NFL and baseball getting paid to fix games too!

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