Actually we joke about Bavetta and Salvatore because they are so horrible.
But I could easily see the ref named coming out of left field on this one and surprising everyone.
If a ref fixed a game in the finals, it will be more than just Mav fans that are outraged.
Besides, how pissed would you be if you found out that the refs stole a game from us in the '04 Lakers series or the '06 Mavs series? At that point, everyone has a right to be pissed.
For now, I just hope the Spurs didn't win any rigged playoff games. I want every one of our wins to still mean something.
That would be true of any fanbase. If even one of those games involved a Spurs loss in even-numbered years, you and your buddies will be drowning this site in tears over the lost possibility of a 9-peat. There was only one game in the 2006 Finals that was officiated in a heavily one-sided manner, but there's three other games that can't be pinned on the refs. Mavs just didn't take care of business.
Hopefully, it was just regular season games. You can make as much on the Knicks-Hawks in October as the Spurs-Cavs in June.
Don't forget you can bust the spread without necessarily changing the win/lose outcome of the game.
I just hope it wasn't in the playoffs.
The worst I've seen is the Mavs-Spurs series in 2006 there were 2/3 games that were a dissaster.
Gus.
Anybody that watched the Spurs vs Suns series knows that the games are fixed.
Questions at this point:
Obvious one, which ref was it?
Who ratted?
How long did the ratting go on; when did it start?
How far-reaching were the illegal actvities amongst the fraternity of refs?
How many refs swallowed the whistle blowing on the one cheater and for how long did they do that?
How long will the court procedings take, from charges, indictments to final sentencings?
When exactly will this new media 3-ring circus debacle take place? During our week of the Ring and Banner Ceremonies?????? Better the not!!!!! We had to endure
Kobi-wanna-quit media distractions during our 07' post-season run. It would be a nightmare if this new round of improprieties hit our NBA world right smack in the middle of our celebration week of rings and banner.
There's a thousand more questions that go begging.
Anybody here for starting a college for refs?
I'll put my first bid in.
Isnt there some code of honor these refs swear to?
Two things:
1. Some of you are misunderstanding this story -- it's not about some league edict to fix games; it's about a single official who got in too deep with gamblers and agreed to manipulate calls to affect the spread at the ends of games. For all we know, the official was pushing favorites out further late in games to ensure that the favorite would cover. Not trying in any way to excuse the conduct, but this is a far cry from the claim that some vast conspiracy has officials determining outcomes at the league's insistence.
2. I explained my reasoning in another thread, but given that this investigation has been going on for a year now, I'd be absolutely shocked if we're talking about a high-profile official who called crucial playoff games. I suspect, frankly, that we're dealing with one of the middle-level referees -- someone who's been in the league for at least 5-10 years, but someone who doesn't normally officiate significant games. I'd be shocked if it's a name that everyone immediately recognizes.
If you go back and watch the replays, you can actually see a 400 lb. mobster push Amarie onto the court during the Horry/Nash incident.
Must have HD though ofcourse.
Exactly.
I cant wait to find out who it is....
So..........just a worm in the apple..........a little paring, extracting and polishing of up the other side of the apple, show that side to the public, then business as usual in October with everyone either smiling or shaking their heads at another San Antonio Spurs ring ceremony.
I hope so.
No one should confuse point shaving with fixing games.
still not good news for the NBA
Arent there 3 refs during the game??? I cant see ONE ref in a game changing the entire outcome, unless the game was tied going into the last minute or two.
I bet he refed the Pistons/Cavs series, no way does lebron get away with so much .
I agree, but one person or not, its human nature to question. This is nothing but bad for the entire league and their refs regardless of how you look at it. The fact that there is proof that it obviously can happen is going to cause people to question all of those other seemingly wierd calls that, until now, had no reasonable explanation. Regardless if its the "right" explanation or not, people are going to use it and really scrutinize every single questionable call from here on out.
Maybe so...Maybe it's not one of the more recognizable refs, but this will still fuel the conspiracy theories out there that the games are rigged. And maybe, this is the start of something bigger. What's to say it all ends with this one ref?
No matter what, this is going to further damage and already damaged reputation for the NBA.
the most misogynist post I have read on these boards- what an idiotic statement
The first thing that came to mind when I read about this situation was current NBA ref, Bob Delaney. He was an undercover informant for several years and I remember seeing a TV piece on him a couple of years ago. He has been protected by police against the mob members he busted. That was prior to Bob becoming an NBA official, however. You can't really say that Bob was involved in this situation going on now...just by association to a previous life.
Contra FWD, I think it would be easier if it were typically someone who was the senior official for a game.
In general, however, I expect the easiest way to affect the outcome is to put guys on the bench by keeping them in foul trouble with iffy fouls.
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