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Sure !! Whatever!! hahaha
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Breaking News: Vince McMahon to replace NBA Commissioner David Stern.
Did you read the post above. Logic can't be fought my son... It is futile.
sad thing is that it really doesn't matter in regards to the cavs - any of the 8 teams in the western confernce playoffs probably could've beaten the over hyped cavs. Just be glad that you played an injured wizards team and a pistons team that was in a funk. Your team was an embarrassment to the eastern conference.
Games are fixed in the NBA and I'm pretty sure, Donaghy is not the only crooked ref in the league.
Just watching the last seconds of Game 3 of the Finals (Yet again another Game 3) when LBJ was clearly and blatanly fouled in a 3-point shot attempt makes me puke!!!
You mean the one where he jumped on top of Finley's back as he was going for a layup or the one where he fouled Horry on a layup (where even the commentators said it was a silly foul).
It might help if you actually watch the games yourself.
Funny they don't mention Duncan's bogus fouls in the same game.
Yeah let's give Lebron 3 free throws and watch him miss 2 of them
you should have puked the whole series when overly hyped lebron failed to show up - wow you're an idiot
Finally...we're getting somewhere. Spur fans admitting at long last the unfair suspensions cost the Suns the series. For the longest time, they kept insisting the suspensions--like the crooked ref--didn't affect the outcome.
yeah, i couldn't believe they suspended them for the next two games and retroactively did it so that they had to change the score and allow the spurs to win game one. just over the top on the league's part.
From my understanding, he was doing this for the mob. The benefit is not dying.
The mob has their own bookies, so they could have been fixing the outcome for that reason, not just Vegas bets.
Disclaimer: Everything I know about the mob, I learned from watching movies.
Your children and their children's children will be asking that the Spurs give up the NBA championship for 2007.
We'll tell them the same thing: Championship teams rise to the occasion, overcome obstacles, and come through at the final bell. This was a four-game series. The Suns had two FULL games to make their championship caliber shine.
They didn't have any.
Did Rose Kennedy own a black dress?
Is a pig's pecker pork?
Are a bull's balls beef?
get over it..losers commiserate.. live in the past.. never let things go. your team got it's ass handed to them in the most important game of the year..game 6. please explain that one? did you have your whole team for that game?
The Spurs are 8-3 vs Phoenix in the playoffs in the Nash era. One ref can't shave that many points.
Obsess much? No amount of rationalization will cover up the fact this championship was tainted.
Obsessed? Who keeps posting crap about Phoneyix losing here?
Tainted? Thta's freagin ilarious. Ok man once we beat you guys AGAIN next year we will another off season of your conspiarcy theories.... nice move by your new gm..letting the only guy on your team that has shown that he can make TD work for his shots.. great move..
...in order to kick their whiney asses again .... I am sick of their ty baby crap .. it's really gotten old ..
yuck!!!
yeah because the NBA didn't want Lesweep to win.Just watching the last seconds of Game 3 of the Finals (Yet again another Game 3) when LBJ was clearly and blatanly fouled in a 3-point shot attempt makes me puke!!!
WTF?
ing trolls.
Only thing tainted is Nash's "MVPs"
Then puke. Just don't puke in Texas.
Dance, my monkeys!!!
Okay, in Pheonix you can consider out championship tainted. In fact why don't you make believe that you've won the last 20 championships if that will make you feel better. The rest of known world will recognize that the Spurs won the championship and all the intelligent people know that you don't fix games to go with the spread. Duh!
All fans should realize that any game he reffed will be scrutinized and that was the biggest game he reffed this play-offs, IIRC.
Also to note- you can impact games by affecting the over and under easier than the point spread. Give a lot of free throws- get some defenders in foul trouble and the point totals probably go up.
Bill Simmons thoughts on that game and others. I did not see this in this forum. Sorry, if it is elsewhere.
When news of the scandal broke on Friday, as J.A. Adande pointed out in his column that day, every diehard NBA fan had the same reaction. They weren't thinking, "I can't believe it!" or "Oh my God, how could this happen?" They were thinking, "Which one was it?"If the allegations are true, Tim Donaghy didn't just violate the integrity of the league and rig some games. There's a good chance he altered the course of the 2007 championship. Only three teams had a chance last year: Dallas, Phoenix and San Antonio. When Dallas choked against Golden State in the opening round, the NBA's refusal to fix a broken playoff system came back to haunt them in Round 2, thanks to a Spurs-Suns matchup that suddenly doubled as the NBA Finals. In Game 1, San Antonio stole homecourt advantage with a convincing win that everyone remembers because Steve Nash busted his nose open. The Suns rallied back with a blowout win in Game 2. Here's what I wrote after the third game -- the Spurs were favored by four, with an over/under of 200.5 -- after San Antonio prevailed, 108-101, thanks to Amare Stoudemire playing just 21 minutes because of foul trouble:
Congratulations to Greg Willard, Tim Donaghy and Eddie F. Rush for giving us the most atrociously officiated game of the playoffs so far: Game 3 of the Suns-Spurs series. Bennett Salvatore, Tom Washington and Violet Palmer must have been outraged that they weren't involved in this mess. Good golly. Most of the calls favored the Spurs, but I don't even think the refs were biased -- they were so incompetent that there was no rhyme or reason to anything that was happening. Other than the latest call in NBA history (a shooting foul for Ginobili whistled three seconds after the play, when everyone was already running in the other direction), my favorite moment happened near the end, when the game was already over and they called a cheap bump on Bruce Bowen against Nash, so the cameras caught Mike D'Antoni (the most entertaining coach in the league if he's not getting calls) screaming sarcastically, "Why start now? Why bother?" What a travesty. Not since the cocaine era from 1978-1986 has the league faced a bigger ongoing issue than crappy officiating.
Now ...
Before the Donaghy scandal broke, if you told me there was a compromised official working a 2007 playoff game and made me guess the game, I would have selected Game 3 of the Spurs-Suns series. There were some jaw-dropping calls throughout, specifically, the aforementioned Ginobili call and Bowen hacking Nash on a no-call drive that ABC replayed from its basket camera (leading to a technical from D'Antoni). Both times, Mike Breen felt obligated to break the unwritten code that play-by-play announcers don't challenge calls and openly questioned what had happened. The whole game was strange. Something seemed off about it.
At the time, I assumed the league had given us another "coincidence" where three subpar refs (and calling that crew "subpar" is being kind) were assigned to a Game 3 in which, for the interest of a long series, everyone was better off having the home team prevail ... just like I anticipated another "coincidence" in which one of the best referees would work Game 4 to give Phoenix a fair shake in a game that, statistically, they were more likely to win. After all, it's easier to win Game 4 on the road than Game 3, when the fans are pumped up and the home team is happy to be home.(Which is exactly how it played out. Steve Javie worked Game 4, a guy who Jeff Van Gundy deemed "the best ref in the league" during the Finals. Hmmmm.) Look, this could have been an elaborate series of connected flukes. I'm just telling you that none of it surprised me. Which is part of the problem.
But here's what I didn't expect: That a potentially crooked ref was working that game.
Imagine being a Suns fan right now. You just spent the last two months believing that your team got screwed by the Stoudemire/Diaw suspensions, that you would have won Game 1 if Nash didn't get hurt, that you would have taken Game 3 if you hadn't been screwed by the officials, that you would have cruised in Game 5 if two of your best guys weren't suspended for running towards their best player as he lay in a crumpled heap. Now it looks like an allegedly compromised referee worked Game 3.
Well, how much did Donaghy affect the game? How many calls did he whistle on Stoudemire? How many of Bowen's potential fouls did he not call? Was he the seemingly incompetent schmuck who made that three-seconds-too-late call on Ginobili? Did Tim Donaghy cost you that game?
If David Stern want to do right by the fans, then he should order NBA TV to re-run the tape of Game 3. We need answers. We need to know for sure. , they can start a series called "NBA Hardwood Classics: The Tim Donaghy Collection" and we'll spend the rest of the summer combing through games and figuring out how many Donaghy could have fixed. Like Game 6 of the Raptors-Nets series, which New Jersey won by a point in the final seconds. Did he swing that one? What about Game 2 of the Orlando-Detroit series, when the Magic rallied for a late cover in the final seconds with Donaghy jogging around? What about the Heat-Knicks game from last February in which the Knicks were given a 39-8 free throw advantage and covered a 4.5-point spread by 1.5 points? Did Donaghy call those two technical fouls on the Miami coaches? Is there footage of Pat Riley screaming at him?The rest of the article is here:I want to see all five playoff games that Donaghy worked last spring, as well as that Heat-Knicks game and any other contest that's relevant. Before we worry about justice, let's get some answers first. Especially for Game 3 of the Spurs-Suns series. I left that series believing that the Spurs were better, that their offensive execution was unparalleled, that Tim Duncan was the best player on the court, that they would have figured out a way to win that series whether the suspensions happened or not. Now? I'm not so sure. What if an allegedly crooked referee hadn't been working Game 3? What if the Suns won that game? What then?
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