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  1. #26
    A VERY BAD man
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    TV ratings are at an all time low. Referee scandals challenging the integrity of the sport. A paper champion nobody cares about.

    Can the Suns bring basketball back from the dead?

    Discuss.
    The great thing about this is, next season you'll get your shot. No more, no less.

    Good luck on saving the world !!

    Pssst...I suggest putting the crying towel away. It won't help you. Last season proved it. Try something new. Like playing defense.

  2. #27
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    Look at what Stern, the Spurs and the refs have done! Our league is shambles!
    The Suns are our savior.
    Go Suns!

    They've done so such thing! The only thing hurting the NBA is the constant wailing of Suns fans. You've got to get over it.

    Get some help.

  3. #28
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    TV ratings are at an all time low. Referee scandals challenging the integrity of the sport and I'm getting tired of the taste of Nash's balls.

    Can sucking the Suns s off do anything for my rep?

    Discuss.
    Fixed.

  4. #29
    January Championship Banner? td4mvp21's Avatar
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    After they ruined it with constant ing and being pussies about physical play? Nope.

  5. #30
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    If anything I think the question is. "Why have the Suns done this to the league?" Through a series of disastrous moves they have hurt the league in a variety of ways. Who is to say how bad of a precedent the Shawn Marion contract set for the league? You have a guy who is basically a great athlete with good BB skills making MVP caliber money. How many bad contracts were inflated by that bar being set? Those bad contracts hurt the whole league. Players become seen as overpaid chokers, and fewer teams have cap space to create compe ive teams. A lack of parity is never good, and bad contracts make parity harder to achieve.

    And what about the Suns failure to get Steve Nash to the Finals? You know the league wants him there. They want a camera friendly, clean cut choir boy they can parade around for middle America to get behind. But instead of putting together a team and coaching staff that could win the big games they have settled for year after year of post season failure. Steve Nash hoisting a finals MVP to go with his other trophies would be great for the league. But the Suns can't get it done.

    And let's not forget yet another black eye bestowed upon the league's image by Amare and Boris' deplorable actions. Just as the league was clearing the shadows of the Palace brawl they violate one of the most rigidly enforced rules in all of sports. Then, rather than using their media time to exalt the rightful winners and venerate the league's eventual champions, they slung the mud, and tainted the rest of the postseason. By the end of that series the entire world was against the Spurs. Turning the public against the team that would be shown the most was not good for the league.

    So in answer to your question, no, the Suns can't save the league. In fact, I question whether they will ever be able to properly undo all the damage they've done. Come to think of it, maybe the league should contract their team before they dig the hole any deeper.

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    If anything I think the question is. "Why have the Suns done this to the league?" Through a series of disastrous moves they have hurt the league in a variety of ways. Who is to say how bad of a precedent the Shawn Marion contract set for the league? You have a guy who is basically a great athlete with good BB skills making MVP caliber money. How many bad contracts were inflated by that bar being set? Those bad contracts hurt the whole league. Players become seen as overpaid chokers, and fewer teams have cap space to create compe ive teams. A lack of parity is never good, and bad contracts make parity harder to achieve.

    And what about the Suns failure to get Steve Nash to the Finals? You know the league wants him there. They want a camera friendly, clean cut choir boy they can parade around for middle America to get behind. But instead of putting together a team and coaching staff that could win the big games they have settled for year after year of post season failure. Steve Nash hoisting a finals MVP to go with his other trophies would be great for the league. But the Suns can't get it done.

    And let's not forget yet another black eye bestowed upon the league's image by Amare and Boris' deplorable actions. Just as the league was clearing the shadows of the Palace brawl they violate one of the most rigidly enforced rules in all of sports. Then, rather than using their media time to exalt the rightful winners and venerate the league's eventual champions, they slung the mud, and tainted the rest of the postseason. By the end of that series the entire world was against the Spurs. Turning the public against the team that would be shown the most was not good for the league.

    So in answer to your question, no, the Suns can't save the league. In fact, I question whether they will ever be able to properly undo all the damage they've done. Come to think of it, maybe the league should contract their team before they dig the hole any deeper.
    What a waste of time reading that post was.
    The public wasn't against the Spurs. The public doesn't know who the Spurs are (see ratings). The public was against Stern.

  7. #32
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    After they ruined it with constant ing and being pussies about physical play? Nope.
    Remember how much MJ complained about the Jordan Rules? "The Pistons are too physical with me! They're so dirty!" The Suns are just trying to emulate the actions of past champions.

  8. #33
    Believe. da_suns_fan__'s Avatar
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    Remember how much MJ complained about the Jordan Rules? "The Pistons are too physical with me! They're so dirty!" The Suns are just trying to emulate the actions of past champions.

    I bet the league wish they had Jordan to get them out of this mess...

    They do have the Suns though, which is the best anyone can ask for right about now.

    Its up to the Suns to pull the league out of this boring/tarnished mess.

  9. #34
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    I bet the league wish they had Jordan to get them out of this mess...

    They do have the Suns though, which is the best anyone can ask for right about now.

    Its up to the Suns to pull the league out of this boring/tarnished mess.
    Then there's no hope. Does Phoenix have a WNBA team?

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    Then there's no hope. Does Phoenix have a WNBA team?
    Have faith friend. I believe we'll never have to watch another NBA finals where Eva Longoria gets more screen time than the actual game.

    Remember the good ol days with Magic, Larry, Jordan, Barkely, Robinson etc?

    Its up to the Suns to restore the greatness this league once had. They've already made huge gains. Look how many teams have publicly stated that are going to copy the Suns style.

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    Look how many teams have publicly stated that are going to copy the Suns style.
    like who?

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    Relax Suns fan. Calm down, take a Xanax, and soothe yourself with a stroll down memory lane. Relive the good ol' days of '76 and '93. At the rate of a Finals appearance every seventeen years, you only have 3 short years to wait until the next one. This one is on me:

    http://flickr.com/photos/fashionable...859999/detail/


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    I believe we'll never have to watch another NBA finals where Eva Longoria gets more screen time than the actual game.

    Its up to the Suns to restore the greatness this league once had. They've already made huge gains. Look how many teams have publicly stated that are going to copy the Suns style.
    They've been saying that for years (minus the Eva Longoria part) but somehow those old bas s keep winning championships.

    For years I've been buying into the Suns hype. They're so fast AND they have neat passes AND cool dunks. That's championship stuff, or at least I thought. But my faith has been exhausted and the Kool-Aid has run dry. Now I feel like a fool who bought a used car from some bozo in a polyester suit, only to have the car breakdown on the way home from the lot. Buyer's remorse, as marketers would say, is a real . You can only be burned so many times.

    Good news about all those teams modeling themselves after the Suns though. I don't believe I've ever heard of another team modeling themselves after the Spurs. I wish it would happen. It would be a nice feather in their cap.

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    Relax Suns fan. Calm down, take a Xanax, and soothe yourself with a stroll down memory lane. Relive the good ol' days of '76 and '93. At the rate of a Finals appearance every seventeen years, you only have 3 short years to wait until the next one. This one is on me:

    http://flickr.com/photos/fashionable...859999/detail/


    oh you mean this series where we played the greatest of all ing time.

  16. #41
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    oh you mean this series where we played the greatest of all ing time.
    pwnage

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    They've been saying that for years (minus the Eva Longoria part) but somehow those old bas s keep winning championships.

    For years I've been buying into the Suns hype. They're so fast AND they have neat passes AND cool dunks. That's championship stuff, or at least I thought. But my faith has been exhausted and the Kool-Aid has run dry. Now I feel like a fool who bought a used car from some bozo in a polyester suit, only to have the car breakdown on the way home from the lot. Buyer's remorse, as marketers would say, is a real . You can only be burned so many times.

    Good news about all those teams modeling themselves after the Suns though. I don't believe I've ever heard of another team modeling themselves after the Spurs. I wish it would happen. It would be a nice feather in their cap.
    That would be like a politician modeling himself after Bush.

    In fact, I bet most teams would want to stray as far from the Spurs image as possible.

    A team so boring they don't even sell out playoff games when they're competing for a championship? Thats a franchise NIGHTMARE!

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    A team so boring they don't even sell out playoff games when they're competing for a championship? Thats a franchise NIGHTMARE!
    I would agree if it was a continuous thing. Plus, the biggest factor behind that was the fact that some Spurs fans are "used" to winning les.


    I have no problem with the way the Suns play basketball. Its entertaining. However the problems the NBA has go way beyond the style of play on the court.

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    cleveland??? you better be talking about the tribe, cause your basketball team sucks. win a game in the finals then we'll talk...

  20. #45
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    Then there's no hope. Does Phoenix have a WNBA team?
    Yes, but the Mercury make the same mistakes the SOns do: run & gun, lots of points and totally disdain defense

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    cleveland??? you better be talking about the tribe, cause your basketball team sucks. win a game in the finals then we'll talk...
    Whoa man. Chill out. Why are you being so defensive? I thought Phoenix fans hated defense.

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    I would agree if it was a continuous thing. Plus, the biggest factor behind that was the fact that some Spurs fans are "used" to winning les.


    I have no problem with the way the Suns play basketball. Its entertaining. However the problems the NBA has go way beyond the style of play on the court.
    I know for a fact that there was no chance of getting Bulls tickets during their heyday no matter how many les they won.

    No...I think people in San Antonio don't watch the Spurs for the same reason the rest of the country doesn't watch the Spurs.

    Can the Suns give the good people in San Antonio something to watch and appreciate?

  23. #48
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    That sounds as likely as the Sonics winning it all for the next 3 years in a row.

  24. #49
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    The name's Francis Sawyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Anybody calls me Francis and I'll kill'em
    Ok, lighten up Francis.

  25. #50
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    That would be like a politician modeling himself after Bush.

    In fact, I bet most teams would want to stray as far from the Spurs image as possible.

    A team so boring they don't even sell out playoff games when they're competing for a championship? Thats a franchise NIGHTMARE!
    Why would they model themselves after Bush when they could model themselves after Kerry?

    A lot of the bandwaggoners here in SA don't even consider it the playoffs until the Finals start. Spoiled fans.

    I passed on going to any Suns vs Spurs playoff games in '05 because I knew it would be a better investment to spend my money on a Finals game. I still have the stub from that game.

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