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    Did basketball originate in Argentina?
    Some Canadian dude made it in upstate NY(? I think) as a winter sport for the kiddes, used a peach basket LMAO.....another reason it takes the beating

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    Some Canadian dude made it in upstate NY(? I think) as a winter sport for the kiddes, used a peach basket LMAO.....another reason it takes the beating
    Probably why Indiana still loves it.

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    Some Canadian dude made it in upstate NY(? I think) as a winter sport for the kiddes, used a peach basket LMAO.....another reason it takes the beating
    Off topic, but interesting nonetheless. That "Canadian dude" was James Naismith, who coached at the University of Kansas. One of his players was Phog Allen, who eventually became coach there. Allen coached Dean Smith, who went on to coach at the University of North Carolina, where one of his players was Larry Brown. When Larry Brown coached the Spurs, Gregg Popovich was his lead assistant.

    So Naismith -> Allen -> Smith -> Brown -> Popovich. Not bad.

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    About the NFL, IMO I think it's the most watched sport and popular in the US, because it alienates Americans from the rest of the world, makes USA unique. American football isn't revered around the rest of the world like Baseball and Basketball is, so it gives us Americans the sense of orginality and uniquness that we are so into it, while the rest of the world is into Soccer/Futbol. That's my opnion though.

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    Off topic, but interesting nonetheless. That "Canadian dude" was James Naismith, who coached at the University of Kansas. One of his players was Phog Allen, who eventually became coach there. Allen coached Dean Smith, who went on to coach at the University of North Carolina, where one of his players was Larry Brown. When Larry Brown coached the Spurs, Gregg Popovich was his lead assistant.

    So Naismith -> Allen -> Smith -> Brown -> Popovich. Not bad.
    I was being sarcastic when I said Dude.... I know who James Naismith is. He also has some sort of ins ue in Springfield.

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    About the NFL, IMO I think it's the most watched sport and popular in the US, because it alienates Americans from the rest of the world, makes USA unique. American football isn't revered around the rest of the world like Baseball and Basketball is, so it gives us Americans the sense of orginality and uniquness that we are so into it, while the rest of the world is into Soccer/Futbol. That's my opnion though.
    Actually Baseball isn't revered around the world (at least not in France). I never saw a Baseball game on TV in france.
    I would say the Football is a bit more known here (the Superbowl is on TV since a few years).
    To be fair basketball is not a major sport in France (maybe Tony Parker is making things change) like it is in Greece, Lithuania, Slovenia, Serbia, Russia,...).

    Here it is :
    1) Soccer
    2) Rugby (sort of Football)
    3) Basketball and Handball (way behind)

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    African-Americans do not dominate the NFL as they do the NBA
    LT
    Larry Johnson
    Stephen Jackson
    Reggie Wayne and a host of others would disagree.

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    Try "getting bigger" illegally. Anyways, steroids were a banned substance in MLB.

    Anyways, it's cheating. It's like corking the bat. It invalidates the game. It doesn't matter if the umpires call the game fair.

    So no difference
    wrong again. Steroids were never "banned" in baseball.

    It is cheating I agree. It does not however "invalidate the game"

    Rigging the game where there is compe ion is invalidation.

    When the players take steroids they arent rigging the game. They still have to compete and win.

    So you see zero difference between getting stronger, and a ref deciding before hand "This team won't win so I can win the parlay"

    ?
    If not, then step back.

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    Look at who America loves in the NFL. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Brett Favre, Troy Aikman, and Joe Montana before them. Who gets all the credit? They do.
    while they are popular, the league is still dominated by african americans.

    The new QB sensation in oakland is AA.

    look at fantasty football drafts 1-5.

    Stephen Jackson, Larry Johnson, LT, Frank Gore, Shaun Alexander.

    All african american.


    So wrong again.

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    while they are popular, the league is still dominated by african americans.

    The new QB sensation in oakland is AA.

    look at fantasty football drafts 1-5.

    Stephen Jackson, Larry Johnson, LT, Frank Gore, Shaun Alexander.

    All african american.


    So wrong again.
    There's a big difference between which players are generally loved by America and which players are drafted high in fantasy drafts. Of course the top fantasy running backs are going to be black. You pick the players that are going to help your fantasy team the most - and there aren't any good white running backs.

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    Probably why Indiana still loves it.
    Yep, pretty much.

    Also, when you live in the middle of nowhere (i.e. most of the state of Indiana), you can still shoot at the hoop at the end of the driveway all by your lonesome. You really can't do that with any other sport.

    In Indiana, football was always a distant third to baseball and basketball until the Colts moved to Indy. Before the Malice at the Palace, Indianapolis was still the Pacers' town to lose. The Colts winning the Superbowl has permanently altered the balance of power, methinks...

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    Some Canadian dude made it in upstate NY(? I think) as a winter sport for the kiddes, used a peach basket LMAO.....another reason it takes the beating
    Actually it wasn't in NY but a little ole burg in Massachusetts by the name of Springfield.

    I think they have some kind of famous building there related to basketball.

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    wrong again. Steroids were never "banned" in baseball.
    Yes they were.

    It is cheating I agree. It does not however "invalidate the game"

    Rigging the game where there is compe ion is invalidation.

    When the players take steroids they arent rigging the game. They still have to compete and win.
    So you have a situation in which some players are playing unfairly. Beyond that, the cheating directly called into question the validity of the player's performance, specifically their home run totals. And of course it was their ability to hit home runs which brought attention to the game in the 90s. So you have players cheating to break two of the most coveted records of all time (most HRs hit in a season and most career HRs).

    So you see zero difference between getting stronger, and a ref deciding before hand "This team won't win so I can win the parlay"

    ?
    If not, then step back.
    Yeah, they were just "getting stronger". Yeah. It's a fake compe ion. And the use was widespread. So far we have maybe one ref who was shaving points.

    What happened in MLB was far worse than that.

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    while they are popular, the league is still dominated by african americans.

    The new QB sensation in oakland is AA.

    look at fantasty football drafts 1-5.

    Stephen Jackson, Larry Johnson, LT, Frank Gore, Shaun Alexander.

    All african american.


    So wrong again.
    Again, you missed the point. The racial composition of the NFL is far different than the NBA's. And the most popular players are white.

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    Actually Baseball isn't revered around the world (at least not in France). I never saw a Baseball game on TV in france.
    I would say the Football is a bit more known here (the Superbowl is on TV since a few years).
    To be fair basketball is not a major sport in France (maybe Tony Parker is making things change) like it is in Greece, Lithuania, Slovenia, Serbia, Russia,...).

    Here it is :
    1) Soccer
    2) Rugby (sort of Football)
    3) Basketball and Handball (way behind)
    Not in Europe, they have the cousin sport there Cricket, but in Eastern Asia and South America baseball is pretty popular there.

    @Shoog:
    I was being sarcastic when I said "Dude".... I know who James Naismith is. He also has some sort of ins ue in Springfield.

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    Not in Europe, they have the cousin sport there Cricket, but in Eastern Asia and South America baseball is pretty popular there.
    Nobody cares about baseball in S. America except in Venezuela.

    Nevertheless, it is very popular in Mexico and Central America. I guess it has to do with the US' cultural influence over that region.

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    Nobody cares about baseball in S. America except in Venezuela.

    Nevertheless, it is very popular in Mexico and Central America. I guess it has to do with the US' cultural influence over that region.
    not entirely true... Basketball is Huge in Brazil and Argentina.. their leagues always fill the stadiums.. which size ofcourse is 10 times smaller than soccer

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    not entirely true... Basketball is Huge in Brazil and Argentina.. their leagues always fill the stadiums.. which size ofcourse is 10 times smaller than soccer
    He said BASEball.

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    the NFL is mostly black and America loves it.

    is middle america still stupid and racist like your hinting at?
    The face of the NFL is Peyton and Tom Brady. 'Nuff said.

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    The face of the NFL is Peyton and Tom Brady. 'Nuff said.
    They're missing out on some amazing marketing opportunities:

    "The Cincinnati Bengals...Live From Folsom Prison..."

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    They're missing out on some amazing marketing opportunities:

    "The Cincinnati Bengals...Live From Folsom Prison..."
    I hope you're not a Cowboy fan.

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    I hope you're not a Cowboy fan.
    Why, yes I am. Why do you ask?


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    The avatar fits in with the theme, too.

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    Before I forget, I think football has reached baseball's teflon status. In spite of the Bengals, Pacman, and Vick the league is stronger than ever. Then again, how formidable of a foe is PETA?

    True ... Vick's Nikes are still flying out of inventory.

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    I ing hate Scoop Jackson. That fool thinks he is so street. He writes as if he has all this street cred, but he is the farthest thing from the ghetto and went to an Ivy league school....and he hates the Spurs.

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