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    I think some people are getting confused about which season we are talking about..the "master" plan was for the Spurs to have some room in 2008/2009, not 2007/2008, which that list of FA's is from.

    With the signing of Bonner & Oberto, most of the cap room that was supposed to be available, will not be there in 08/09..therefore, no more master plan in 08/09.
    Um I think you're the one thats confused. You're right about the plan being for the 2008/2009 season. But you're confused about the summer part of it. In the summer of 2008, the summer before the 2008/2009 season was originally the summer that the spurs were supposed to have just Tim, Tony, and Manu under contract. Not the 2009 summer. The link I provided was a list of free agents for the summer of 2008, The summer before the 2008/2009 season. At least this is the way I understand it.

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    That list is not updated though.

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    brand and marion

    no thanks to others

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    After watching three series where Marion disappeared like a little girl against us, added to the fact that he's a wing player getting older, I can NEVER understand the strange Jones that Spurs fan has for Shawn "Mommy, it's those mean old Spurs" Marion. He sucks ass.

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    When will the FO make a contract extension offer to Tim? Obviously they want him to finish his career here and so does he. Maybe offering long term security for less money would open up some cap space to assure a winner. David did it and I think Tim values success over $$$ also. Making $350,000 a week instead of $400,000 isn't really going to get noticed in his family budget. We know Splitter is coming in 2008 probably for aboutr what Scola got in Houston. If Mahinmi goes back to Europe I think he will be the new "Scola' & we will discussing him when he turns 26. Sandikze[?] seems to be a Spurs type. Question: What happens if we don't sign Williams? A lot of the other teams have signed their #2's but we don't seem to be in a hurry with him.

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    You idiots are impervious to reality. Even huge red letters don't help. Let me try again.

    There is no master plan.

    Elton Brand is not coming.

    Shawn Marion is not coming.

    No big free agents are coming.

    Tim Duncan is not going to take a pay cut.


    What is wrong with you people? Why this obsession with dreaming about signing superstars? Do you think this is a rotisserie league? Are you all just losers and geeks?

    I stand in judgment over all of you.

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    You idiots are impervious to reality. Even huge red letters don't help. Let me try again.

    There is no master plan.

    Elton Brand is not coming.

    Shawn Marion is not coming.

    No big free agents are coming.

    Tim Duncan is not going to take a pay cut.


    What is wrong with you people? Why this obsession with dreaming about signing superstars? Do you think this is a rotisserie league? Are you all just losers and geeks?

    I stand in judgment over all of you.
    Relax dude. The original poster basically discounted most of the possibilities and capped the post with....

    Not much else to talk about these days.
    It's pretty clear that any one of those scenarios are incredible longshots, but if the Spurs DO manage to come up with $$$, I think they'd at least inquire as to the availability of some of those big-name guys.

    Obviously though, the chances are far greater that they split the $$ much like they did when they had cap space in Summer 03.

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    The 2008 master plan has never existed.

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    Based on the last 5 seasons, here is the only master plan worth having:

    1. Don't get injured. (Miami would have been in the Finals if Wade was 100% this year)
    2. Don't kill your players during the regular season trying to get 70 wins
    3. Don't foul in the closing minute of a deciding playoff game when you have a 3-point lead
    4. Make sure you play defense until the clock runs out, that means even 0.4 seconds.

    Other than that I don't see any reason to bring in any "big names". If they were so big they'd have a championship, but they don't. The guys who have the championship now are all coming back next season.

    I'm guaranteeing a Spurs championship for 2008 just like I did this year.

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    Artest would fit in just fine in San Antonio. One nutter can play like a model citizen on a good team. Two nutters is what causes trouble. If we want four more trophies, Artest is the guy to bring in. Think of Rodman and the Bulls.

    The formula for winning is simple. Play with Tim Duncan. Play hard and keep your mouth shut.

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    Artest would fit in just fine in San Antonio. One nutter can play like a model citizen on a good team. Two nutters is what causes trouble. If we want four more trophies, Artest is the guy to bring in. Think of Rodman and the Bulls.
    Then again, think of Rodman with the Spurs. Pass.

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    thank god none of us are in the Spurs FO...or we would never win again.

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    Matt Harpring-type players would be all the Spurs would need. While Tim will probably still want to get paid nicely, I doubt it would be a very long contract. As long as tony doesn't want "super-max" money and Manu takes a reasonable contract, the FO should be able to fill a roster that can contend until 2012.

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    thank god none of us are in the Spurs FO...or we would never win again.
    True But it wouldn't be a forum if we didn't all pretend we could out coach and out manage the team than the current personell.

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    bradn will be a good deal..another dominant twin towers with our actual backcourt...terrific!!!

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    I anticipating 7 players returning (TD,TP,Manu,Bowen,Oberto Bonner,JV), + 3 young guys who wil eat up possibly 3-4 mil(Splitter, Mahinmi, Sankidze) and possibly Williams =11 roster spots already taken with possibly grand total of around 52-53 mil being used on these players..So as SS has said (thanks for explanation) 6-8 mil. I think can be used on FA's and draft picks..
    Mahimni will never use a spurs uniform.... start digesting that...

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    When will the FO make a contract extension offer to Tim? Obviously they want him to finish his career here and so does he. Maybe offering long term security for less money would open up some cap space to assure a winner. David did it and I think Tim values success over $$$ also. Making $350,000 a week instead of $400,000 isn't really going to get noticed in his family budget. We know Splitter is coming in 2008 probably for aboutr what Scola got in Houston. If Mahinmi goes back to Europe I think he will be the new "Scola' & we will discussing him when he turns 26. Sandikze[?] seems to be a Spurs type. Question: What happens if we don't sign Williams? A lot of the other teams have signed their #2's but we don't seem to be in a hurry with him.
    Luis Scola was a second round draft pick thats why he got so much money. Splitter is a 1st round pick and his salary is fixed

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    Mahimni will never use a spurs uniform.... start digesting that...
    Your kidding, right? Mahinmi is going to get his chance, whether or not he becomes a decent NBA player is another matter..Digest that!!

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    I think some people are smoking crack if they think the 2008/2009/20whatever master plan involves getting a fourth star.

    It's about finding replacements for everyone not named Tim, Tony, or Manu. It's about bringing over guys like Sanikidze, Ian, Tiago, along with a sprinkling of NBA vets.

    If you think the Spurs are going to go after Brand or KG or someone, save yourself the time and let that dream die.

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    I think some people are smoking crack if they think the 2008/2009/20whatever master plan involves getting a fourth star.

    It's about finding replacements for everyone not named Tim, Tony, or Manu. It's about bringing over guys like Sanikidze, Ian, Tiago, along with a sprinkling of NBA vets.

    If you think the Spurs are going to go after Brand or KG or someone, save yourself the time and let that dream die.
    Agreed..If people want another superstar at the time of being signed they will probably have to wait until 2010 offseason. But, they have money $ to get solid players to fit into their system and can def. fill the roles of finley, barry, and horry while adding depth..The players aggie mentioned is where our youth will come from..

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