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    True. But what about a challenge rule, like in football?
    The challenge rule sucks. In football, and anywhere else it might be applied.

    There should be an official (or maybe a team of officials, for objectivity's sake) watching the game on TV like most of us. When there is an obviously blown call (which TV has an uncanny knack for showing us, repeatedly...) they should call the lead official and say "hey, y'all blew that one...here's what we saw".

    No red flags, no booth calls in the last 2 minutes, just common sense "here's one you missed" review of what happens on the court/field of play.

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    They need to expand on ex's idea. Send five refs to every game, and then randomize the selection of four to call the game.

    Still randomizes the selection of officials, and adding a fourth will put more eyes on the court and reduce the stress on officials.

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    give the coaches 2 challenges a game for replay. that won't slow the game down but a couple of minutes. In fact, it might slow down the whistle happy refs and speed up the game.

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    The challenge rule sucks. In football, and anywhere else it might be applied.

    There should be an official (or maybe a team of officials, for objectivity's sake) watching the game on TV like most of us. When there is an obviously blown call (which TV has an uncanny knack for showing us, repeatedly...) they should call the lead official and say "hey, y'all blew that one...here's what we saw".

    No red flags, no booth calls in the last 2 minutes, just common sense "here's one you missed" review of what happens on the court/field of play.
    I don't agree at all. Part of officiating in any sport is that it's human decisions, and can have human error. Bad calls and all. If they're constantly up top correcting every call, it's not going to improve officiating - it's going to move it towards a completely computerized game. Why not remove the homeplate umpire and have a computer call the game? Remove all the field refs - have all penalty calls come from upstairs.

    Not to mention if every call is looked at or overruled, you're slowing games down tremendously.

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    I don't agree at all. Part of officiating in any sport is that it's human decisions, and can have human error. Bad calls and all. If they're constantly up top correcting every call, it's not going to improve officiating - it's going to move it towards a completely computerized game. Why not remove the homeplate umpire and have a computer call the game? Remove all the field refs - have all penalty calls come from upstairs.

    Not to mention if every call is looked at or overruled, you're slowing games down tremendously.
    Yeah, I'm not ready for the 4 hour long NBA game.

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    I think many are missing the point when comparing NFL instant replay to what you want in the NBA. No penalty calls are overruled in the NFL. The NFL looks at things like "is it a fumble?" or "is it a catch?" or "was the player in or out of bounds?". There are almost no calls like that in the NBA. Everything is a judgment call, and often it's the non-calls that have a huge impact. Are you wanting a review of non-calls? Theoretically, they could call a foul on every play.

    The refs are going to miss calls, and they are going to blow calls. What I want to know at the end of the day is are they on the up and up?

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    I think many are missing the point when comparing NFL instant replay to what you want in the NBA. No penalty calls are overruled in the NFL. The NFL looks at things like "is it a fumble?" or "is it a catch?" or "was the player in or out of bounds?". There are almost no calls like that in the NBA. Everything is a judgment call, and often it's the non-calls that have a huge impact. Are you wanting a review of non-calls? Theoretically, they could call a foul on every play.

    The refs are going to miss calls, and they are going to blow calls. What I want to know at the end of the day is are they on the up and up?
    Yes, basketball is a fast game...and yes, the officials make judgment calls, and sometimes they are right, sometimes wrong.
    But...and not to beat a dead horse...let's look at last year's final game against Dallas in the WCSF...Manu fouled Dirk, and Dirk went to the line. Then, Dirk turned around and fouled, and nothing was called? If the coaches could challenge, Pop could've challenged that call, and perhaps changed the outcome of the game.
    Challenges would be useful in this situation, no?

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    I could very envision a situation where coaches selectively use challenges to curtail fast breaks and blunt momentum of the other team. In a game with rapid changes of possession and shifts in momentum challenges would cause more game flow problems than anything else.

    We already complain when refs call fouls a few seconds after a play has occurred, what more if a coach has the ability to stop a game dead in it's tracks.

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    They need to expand on ex's idea. Send five refs to every game, and then randomize the selection of four to call the game.

    Still randomizes the selection of officials, and adding a fourth will put more eyes on the court and reduce the stress on officials.
    I'm with Exstatic and Aggie Hoopsfan because Exstatic's pitch addresses the subject someone else here raised about the lack of checks and balances within the league office and official's corp.
    However, I don't ever think the union will let this happen.

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    I'm with Exstatic and Aggie Hoopsfan because Exstatic's pitch addresses the subject someone else here raised about the lack of checks and balances within the league office and official's corp.
    However, I don't ever think the union will let this happen.
    The NBRA is nothing. David Stern owns them. He undressed, humiliated, and basically fired one of their veteran leaders, and I don't remember them even issuing a statement.

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