Dampier had a torn rotator cuffconstant change of strategies = lineup change for GAME 1 vs GW,
That's like saying the Manu/Finley ''who's the starter" thing represents a constant change in strategies.devin harris/jason terry who's the starter?,
I don't think they set out to make a run at 70. And after you win 67 games and get bounced by an 8-seed, the regular season means nothing more than getting enough wins to get a good playoff seed and tune up for the playoffs, nothing more or less. The Rockets successfully defended their le as a 6-seed, the Knicks made it to the Finals as an 8-seed in the lockout year, but usually if you are a serious contender, you need a top-four seed and HCA for at least one round.Going all out and achieving franchise record in wins one year, slow it done and grind out the regular season the next, etc..
This is also something that pisses me off, from everything I've heard from Avery and the players and Donnie. They talk out of both sides of their mouth BIG TIME when it comes to this. Half the time they say "regular season doesn't matter, it's all about the playoffs" but as soon as they're faced with the fact that they were a FIRST ROUND EXIT in the playoffs they immediately counter with "we won 67 games so no changes are needed".
i really don't believe it makes any sense to say manu "dirked" away that game when it was dirk who beat you
and idk what all this talk of "repairing their egos" means....how can you repair an ego?...its a mental thing
the mavs lost because both the heat and the warriors had the right pieces ( mulitple athletic defenders) to stop dirk, i know from experience that basketball is pretty much an " Xs and Os" game...if one team has the pieces to stop you, then you loose....there isn't much thinking involved unless you are the coach
for example:
you take players that ( according to spurs fans ) don't choke like...
manu
horry
derek fisher
parker
wade
and put them against plays that ( again according to spurs fans ) do choke like...
dirk
nash
garnett
t-mac
and josh howard
there is no question who would win that game
basketball isn't about mental toughness....it's about who has the advantage over who
that being said i think the mavs roster should be fine...just add c-webb and call it an off-season
Trade Jason Terry already
To me that is key, could get a decent starting shooting guard/small forward for him and they would be set
Trade him back to the Hawks for one of their small forwards
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Everytime they talk to the media, it's "We like our team." Who knows what they really think or what they're really planning? They're not going to tip their hand on Dunham and Miller. They got Terry and Dampier in late August, they traded for Fatione in training camp. I'm not necessarily defending those moves per se, just that the offseason is far from over. But it's not the end of the world if they bring this back for one more year.
Jason Terry for Josh Smith
i wish. Atlanta would be stupid to do that. Josh Smith is on the verge of All-S om. I don't think they'd even do Howard for Josh Smith.Jason Terry for Josh Smith
I like Josh Smith a lot, but he's kind of a knucklehead. I don't know how many GM's would take Smith over Howard.
Marvin Williams could probably be had
If the price is Jason Terry, not interested.
dang that would be sweet. he's got even more upside than Josh Smith but he doesn't appear to have the mentality. he could really flourish as a role player on a good team.
seriously? if they called me with that offer, i would have Terry on the first plane to Atlanta before hanging up.
Actually, he put 13 and 5 as a 21-yr-old when the Hawks were crowded at that position. And UNC players tend to pan out in the pros. Just throw in Speedy as a backup to replace Terry's minutes and we'll throw in some salary filler and it's a done deal.
was that the diagnosis at the time?
there was and always has been an understanding there that manu makes the team better by coming off the bench. for the past couple of offseason i've heard about how harris is ready to start and the team is ready to give over the starting pg reigns over to little harris. what's gonna happen this year?is terry gonna come off the bench?
i'm just talking about avery regurgitating strategies that he knows works instead of coming up with his own scheme customized to his personnell. He's just a young coach... but everyone thought he was going to come in and already possess all the coaching experience one would need to take a team all the way.
You seem to indicate that one of these two statements isn't true. If thats the case, which one is false?This is also something that pisses me off, from everything I've heard from Avery and the players and Donnie. They talk out of both sides of their mouth BIG TIME when it comes to this. Half the time they say "regular season doesn't matter, it's all about the playoffs" but as soon as they're faced with the fact that they were a FIRST ROUND EXIT in the playoffs they immediately counter with "we won 67 games so no changes are needed".
It is all about the playoffs and the team did win 67 games. Is 67 wins (third all time) something to hang your hat on? In a season where you are disappointed in the final outcome, can you tell your players "We had a really good season, I know it ended badly, but we like what we are seeing with the team"
Coaches modivate in several ways. Every Mavs player and fan knows that last year was a disappointment. At the same time they all also know that the regular season was something to be prowd of.
You can talk all you want about regular season records no mattering, but there is a difference between a 55 win season and a 67 win season. When you talk about the Bulls 70 does it matter?
The mavs are prowd of what they did do, and they are equaly upset about what they did not do.
Are there changes that need to be made to the team? Every team in the league would like to add an athletic swingman. Every team in the league would like to add more low post domination. Every team in the league would like better play from those coming off the bench, and from their starters too. (Wouldn't the Spurs like to see a little more from Oberto?)
If every team wants the same things, maybe it's not so easy to get done the changes that you want.
In my opinion there are four teams that can "Stand pat" this off-season (Suns, Spurs, Mavs, Jazz). All those teams could stand pat and expect a better product on the floor next year just through their young players getting more experiance .. Everyone else needs to make moves.
No way you believe this. All the teams in the nba are good (some do have better individual players, but do the warriors or heat really have the mavs beat in this regard?), it's really all about which team wants it more, who is more disciplined and committed to the game plan that has gotten you to the current point of success, and trust that it will take you all the way. I just don't think Avery has the maturity as a coach to be the leader the mavs need him to be to get them through what I expect to be a turbulent season for the mavs in 07-08
that teams collective ego is bruised, whats hard to understand about that? devestating loss in the finals.... year of redemption leads to first round playoff exit to an 8 seed... their ego is on life-support.
Only success and solid leadership can heal those wounds.
the second one
yes, they won the championship
anything beyond what he gives us now is just icing on the cake
and it's proud.... were you doing that on purpose?
It was the reason he wasn't playing. He hardly played the last couple weeks of the regular season, and when he did, he didn't have his full range of motion and he was missing from 4 feet in. I think Avery is not about making excuses, so at the time the talk was about "matchups," etc.was that the diagnosis at the time?
I don't know where Terry fits in, but the talk is that Harris is going to sink or swim as a starter.there was and always has been an understanding there that manu makes the team better by coming off the bench. for the past couple of offseason i've heard about how harris is ready to start and the team is ready to give over the starting pg reigns over to little harris. what's gonna happen this year?is terry gonna come off the bench?
wasn't that always the case?
better give lil devin some floaties then!
it's the way they use those statements. they tell us that what happens in the playoffs is the ultimate barometer, but when people say "you lost in the first round" they reply with "but we won 67 games, therefore we don't have to change".
bottom line, this is a team that didn't get out of the first round of the playoffs....does a team like that need change or not? whether they won 67 games or 47 games....they're a FIRST ROUND LOSER and any FIRST ROUND LOSER needs more than insignificant "upgrades" like Brandon Bass and Keith Van Fazekas.
the warriors and the heat have the mavs number because they posess the pieces that can stop our superstar ( who we just so happen to run a majority of the plays through) The disciplin comes from the coach ( whom of which is going into his third year as head coach) it doesn't matter how much the mavs "wanted it" when their superstar and leader was taken out of the series
what's your point?
dallas just needs to pace themselves until the allstar break.......and in spurs fashion......start clicking down the stretch........instead of win, win, win, win, ankle-sprains, win, ankle-sprains.....all star break...wins, wins, anklesprains, losing games and motivation.....start playoffs.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....d6e54f69.htmlUnrestricted free agent James Posey has drawn the interest of several teams, including the Mavericks.
But Posey, the one-time Miami Heat defensive stopper, is caught in the same logjam as many other unrestricted free agents who are waiting for restricted free agents Pietrus and Sasha Pavlovic to be signed.
Teams have been reluctant to commit to other big guards or small forwards until Pietrus and Pavlovic sign.
Posey's agent, Mark Bartelstein, sees some progress.
"We're talking," he said. "There have been a number of conversations."
Bartelstein said another client, P.J. Brown, plans to talk with several possible contenders before making a decision on whether to play a 15th NBA season or retire.
At 6-11, Brown could potentially give the Mavericks another big body to go with Erick Dampier and DeSagana Diop.
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