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yeah no ! what? does tony have to swim here?
I forgot the only important thing in USA is moneyYeah, it's stupid for them to want to protect their 70 million dollar investment
if you want to be pride of your country hide it if you are a foreigner.
yeah no ! what? does tony have to swim here?
RIF.Yeah, it's stupid for them to want to protect their 70 million dollar investment
If it's the case, it's even more stupid.
The travel by itself isn't enough to justify fatigue or injury during the season but it's the addition of things : wedding + NT + travel.
The travel fatigue could have been easily avoided. It's stupid to add it to other fatigues without a good reason.
That's just a dumb pot shot at Americans. The NBA is a business. The players have contracts and guaranteed money, and it would be absolutely stupid to just leave them out of sight and mind for 5 months out of the year with no thought to their physical well being. Who's the hand that feeds TP and his superstar lifestyle? The San Antonio Spurs. It's the Spurs who have the most to lose, so they are taking precautions with their investment. This is a non-story.
BTW, don't act like taking a flight to SA in luxury conditions is any sort of a huge drain on him. That's a ridiculous idea.
exactly
You're right, it should have been easily avoided by TP not playing with the national team. The Spurs were gracious enough to not take exception with their multi-million dollar investment playing for his country, taking the right to look at him in the event of an injury is not out of line. Why is it that TP always gets some sort of injury while with the NT during the summer?
i don't know but him hurting his thumb(it was his thumb right?) last summer sent chills down my spine until i saw his performance in reg season and post season play. if his injuries are any indication of his improvements then by all means parker get hurt every summer but make sure your ass is healthy come training camp!
parker for mvp 2008! that is if duncan gets shafted again like he always does... DUNCAN will always be MVP!
this a bigger problem than only the tony's case. Even for the any team in any sport, all the pro-team are more and more thinking that playing with NT is a waste of time and a risk for the athletes they pay millions. football, rugby, basket-ball are the first sports touch by that and ask the question of what kind of future there is for olympics, world championship, european championship...
the players should put a line in their contract that say they can play for NT every time it's possible.
the team should be aware that if the player is a star, it's because he wins. If he wins he sell a lot of stuff with his name on.
I don't see what the big deal is. Tony got injured and the Spurs want to check him out. Its not like they are calling Tony to come back for nothing. I understand that the national team needs him, but so do the Spurs.
The Spurs leaned on all their players not to play this summer, but Tony still is. I would not be in the least bit surprised if they say this injury is too much for him to be able to play on.
Uh, yeah. We're not talking about charity work here, we're talking about a pro team with a huge investment in a player. Quit being so simple minded.
Or are you just trying to hate on Americans? Because it's not like pro hoops players in Europe are getting paid or anything
Did I miss another thread about how he got injured? Or is this the first mention of it?
The same problem exists in Soccer with teams like Chelsea, Arsenal, Lyon... and probably Madrid, Barcelone, Milan... (even if I didn't have specific case in mind) ask their players not to play with the NT except for big games. But there is a FIFA (maybe UEFA?) rule saying that a player can be suspended for some games if he refuses a selection. The French coach used that rules with Makelele. This rule is not that bad IMO.
This soccer exemple is just there to prove this problem as nothing to do with the USA. It is just a business issue. You can't blame the Spurs for protecting their interest. But as Bruno said they could be more direct and just ask TP not to play with the French NT... Of course if the NBA wants to develop the european market it may not be the wisest decision.
When Spurs signed Parker to his rookie contract, have they said that they won't allow him to play for his NT ? NO
When Spurs signed Parker to his $66M contract, have they said that they won't allow him to play for his NT ? NO
Spurs have invested a lot on money on Parker but they knew that he was French and the he will likely play for his NT. If Spurs want players who don't play during summers, they must sign American players and not international ones.
If Spurs don't want that international players plays for their NT, they should clearly tell them before signing a contract with them.
Spurs have a ty at ude towards international players and their NT. Not letting Manu and Oberto playing with the Argentinean NT and acting with Parker like they do is just disgusting.
suns do not want diaw to play for france
it is not like the spurs are the only ones
mavs do not either
What I learned from soccer is that in those situation it is all in the player hands (at least for the stars). If he really wants to play with his NT he can make his team understand that he would be REALLY unhappy not to play with his NT. Do you think the Mavs could really refuse this to Dirk?
When Spurs signed Parker to his rookie contract, have they said that they won't allow him to play for his NT ? NO
When Spurs signed Parker to his $66M contract, have they said that they won't allow him to play for his NT ? NO
Spurs have invested a lot on money on Parker but they knew that he was French and the he will likely play for his NT. If Spurs want players who don't play during summers, they must sign American players and not international ones.
If Spurs don't want that international players plays for their NT, they should clearly tell them before signing a contract with them.
Spurs have a ty at ude towards international players and their NT. Not letting Manu and Oberto playing with the Argentinean NT and acting with Parker like they do is just disgusting.
Still I have one question: Why did the Spurs allowed Duncan to play with USA? Was he less important to the team that Gino or Oberto?
Tony's dream is win a medal in olympic games with his friends of yhe NT (his best recall is the win with junior national team and he keep the trophee in his house)
Maybe a very bad decision for the futur after 2011
Tony said he never forgot and the spurs make like they want to kill Tony's dreams
Spurs are stupid for investing millions of dollars in Tony Parker and then worrying about France keeping him from being hurt? The Spurs went out and hired Chip England to help Tony shot better. That's alot of time and energy given by both the Spurs and by Tony. I don't get why that is hard for you to understand.
If Tony is all about "pride" for the country, then why is he in the NBA? Shouldn't he be in France full time?
This has nothing to do with France and the quality of its health care. Isn't France ranked better than the US as far as healthcare anyway?
In other words, he may be getting the best health care in France but for LEGAL reasons, he has to be checked out by US doctors. Its all formal legalities. If it where the other way around, France would do the same thing.
Be realistic.
It doesn't seem to be "over the top" for the Spurs to want their doctors to check out TP's injury. Not all countries have the same standards of medicine and they could just want some clarification of the injury.
Shouldn't think a round-trip flight from Europe would overly tire a 25-year old.
The Spurs are of course en led to be worried about the ankles of Mr. Antony Parker.
They could do this 3 ways.
0) Do nothing and trust Parker and the staff of the french NT.
2) Send in a Doctor -and possibly an MRI guy on top- and use available medical equipment. As correctly suggested, France is not devoid of the most advanced and believe it or not San Antonio Texas is not the only place in the world where a proper diagnosis can be made. Then establish this diagnosis, talk to the physicians and to the french NT about it, and finally agree on the proper strategy.
Possibly, keep the Doctor there until the problem has been solved for good. This is what I would call the "reach-out", confidence-based at ude.
1) Call Mr. Parker in and have it examined at home. "We invested a lot of money in this guy etch etch etch (read above)". Legally impeccable.
As correctly stated (in french) by our friend here, whether you like it or not, this would be in obvious distrust, as it would be perceived, of the staff of the french NT.
The very same people that will call Parker's shots (literally) for > a month untill Euro 07 is over. Some of these people might like the SA Spurs. Some might not. None have legal obligations with the SA organization.
So what do you think would serve the interests of the SA Spurs the best?
Standards of medicine?
For a pro?
Absolutely correct.
As I wrote above.
It's all legal.
too bad that none of the french NT staff has ANY legal constraints vs the SA Spurs.
No contract whatsoever.
They will actually decide where, when, how Mr. Parker will play.
For how many minutes, and in which conditions.
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I am referring to LadyM's comments.I forgot the only important thing in USA is money
if you want to be pride of your country hide it if you are a foreigner.
Mr. Parker signed to have those type of restrictions placed on him as far as health etc. It is a very big investment the Spurs or any organization places on its players and its a fair tradeoff to make and is fully understood to when contracts are signed. They cannot stop them from playing for their countries nor should they but if a player takes the risk and gets injured then technically its a breach of contract.
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