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it was because of greg davis
Okay, Ramonce had 15 tds in 2005, but Jamaal Charales had 13 tds. Henry Melton had 10 tds and Selvin had 8tds and ,.. AND they all Vince as their QB. , Vince had 12 rushing tds in '05 also....Fast forward to 2006 with Texas breaking in a freshman QB and a defense that blew. Selvin had 7 tds, Jamaal, had 5 tds, and Melton had 6. Thats a huge discrepancy. Point being Vince had an effect on every bodys success as defenses were keying in on him and he was keeping opossing offenses off the field, and keeping Texas's offense on the field ac ulating more stats. Thats why guys like Ramonce and Jamaal, and Melton were so successful that year.
it was because of greg davis
Show many how many 35+ or 40+ yard plays we had last season compared to each season back to when Simms was QB.
Show me I saiidddd. Our offense last year had no explosiveness what-so-ever.
brahh
You are clueless. You totally overlook the fact that Ramonce was by far and away the best receiving running back on the squad too. We could have done so much with him and jamaal having a solid year of experience together.
Two RB's, shifting Ramonce to a slot pre-snap....Using ramonce as tailback, but shifting him to slot without another RB...or lineing up with jamaal and having ramonce start out in the slot and shift the other way around
The reverses we ran last year worked with freakin SHIPLEY, can you imagine if we had Ramonce on the field?
You are not acknowledging the fact that beyond vince he was the ONLY player on the team capable of huge yardage plays, reggie bushesque, like that little weiner on A&M, etc
He coulda taken it to the house returning it, receiving it, or running it.
I can only jack off thinking to how bad ass our offense could be if we had ramonce last year and Urban Meyers calling the plays.
The possibilities woulda been near endless.
Why do you not acknowledge the fact that Vince made all the RBs better because defenses keyed in on Vince. Especially on the zone-read plays. It was ing funny to see the whole front 7 collapse on what direction Vince went. Look at the disparity between what all the RBs did in 05 and 06(I posted above). So now Ramonce compares to reggie bush. Get a ing clue. If that was the case surely he would of recieved at least a tryout from the NFL right? If he played last year, guess what we would still of been 10-3.
ramonce could have taken a lot of pressure off mccoy just being on the field in third down situations. just give up, you have no logic. you still haven't answered how ramonce's production was "easily" replaced by plugging anyone in there.Why do you not acknowledge the fact that Vince made all the RBs better because defenses keyed in on Vince. Especially on the zone-read plays. It was ing funny to see the whole front 7 collapse on what direction Vince went. Look at the disparity between what all the RBs did in 05 and 06(I posted above). So now Ramonce compares to reggie bush
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Why do you not acknowledge the fact that Vince made all the RBs better because defenses keyed in on Vince. Especially on the zone-read plays. It was ing funny to see the whole front 7 collapse on what direction Vince went. Look at the disparity between what all the RBs did in 05 and 06(I posted above). So now Ramonce compares to reggie bush
You're definitely right about vince, but you overplay it. Dude Ramonce was a total freak. Made for the college game. He does compare to reggie bush too, look at their numbers and average per touches. He is nowhere near reggie bush but definitely comparable. And based on his history and the way he sneaded himself out of college, no wonder a nfl team wont try him.
Even I recognize that Ramonce was a poor man's Reggie Bush... too bad he's a thuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug
The only thing keeping it from being a legit comparison was that Ramonce never favored the lateral when he already had a 65 yard catch.
I have no logic, really? Its not logical to think/realize/rationalize/know that with Vince on the field, everybody, specifically the RBs were better. Its not not logical to think that Vince, superman, did make players around him better. If you think that you are freakin idiot and not worth debating with. Just like I stated before, of the running backs that we still had on our roster in 06, Selvin, Jamaal, Melton, had significantly lower stats in 06 than in 05.
And read what I ing say before you attempt to quote me. I said Ramonce's production in 05, the championship year, would of been absorbed by other players had he not been on the team in 05. I've been making the case that he wasn't key to winning the championship. When did I ever make mention of his theoretical "production" in 06. Show me where I said othewise and I'll buy you a bag of chips.
Though we have been disagreeing, that was pretty funny.
i've read every dimwitted thing you have said, and you keep contradicting yourself. you said ramonce's production could easily be replaced by plugging in different players, which everyone proved to be untrue in 06. your takes are so muddled and contradictory it's small wonder you make little to no sense. you haven't made any case at all besides the fact you try to confuse the issue when you are clearly proven wrong - no one evert tried to argue v young wasn't a complete stud. how many times did the davis running offense stagger along until ramonce broke a big play, setting the table for vince to run wild late in the game?
Dude quit being a ing idiot. I've never contradicted myself. Everything you just mentioned, I've given a concise statement on while all you bring to the table is "you are clueless, blah, blah ,blah, dimwitted". You can't even understand the value Vince brought to the team and how his presence affected his teammates. You are just dumb, get easily confused, and are just shortsighted in a football sense, which is okay. There are people like you in this world people like me have to deal with. And YOU have never proven me wrong, thats just ing funny. So get off ramonce's jock already...............I will leave you with this, if you are a 'Horns fan, I respectfully disagree with you, if you are not a 'Horns fan, then go yourself.
since you're new to the forum and missed me arguing with jgw about vince in college and the nfl, i guess i can give you a pass. i brought up stats to prove my points, you parroted. you said no thug was key in the le run, and ramonce was a key thug. get over it.
All we can hope is for Colt not to rape Frank Okam while Okam is pulling the trigger of a gun aimed at Jamaal Charles' face or we can pretty much assume the 2007-8 season will be one of the all time classic blunders.
Ramonce! As a graduate of U.T. it pissed me off how that piece of trash, crack- headed piece of garbage with his stupid grill embarassed our program. After reading through this lively thread I have to agree, while Ramonce was talented he was not a key component to winning the championship. If he wasn't on the team we still would of been champs anyone who says other wise smoking the same ramonce is. Vince was THE key, and our line was key. Vince made everyone around him better and he will be doing more of the same in the NFL. Again, Ramonce.
No Vince was the key of '05, nobody's debating that. What is also fairly obvious is that Ramonce in the lineup in '06, when there was no more Vince and a redshirt McCoy, would have been much more valuable than Ramonce in '05. Nothing helps out a young QB like a good running game and a good receiving back out of the backfield, and Ramonce was that.
Yeah thats debatable, you have your opinion I have mine. But I think Colt ended up pretty good, tossing 29 tds wouldn't you say. But what ALSO is obvious is we can win without crack heads on our team and were better off without that . Thank God that happened in the off season.
Per the Austin American Statesman this morning, Dre Jones (DT) who was arrested along with R. Joseph it out of lock up and states that he was not with Joseph that night.
He has stated that he does have an alibi for that evening that is solid, and that he and Joseph were never close friends. I'm hoping he gets cleared of this mess, and soon, look for him to get some reps at DT this season.
Also, early reports from the first two days of practice are that this is the fastest UT team in the Mack Brown era, both on offense and defense. They have also looked very sharp execution wise.
I'm ready for some ing football man!
Amen.I'm ready for some ing football man!
We'll see if he has a rock solid alibi. If he does and is cleared in the case, great - get him back in pads and ready to go. If not, then go on without him.
If you take away the Vince Young knee down lateral touchdown to Selvin Young where the do we get our offense from besides the VY heroics in the Rose Bowl?
Ramonce sliced right through the insanely overrated Ting Brother loaded USC defense and made them look like they were covered in sticky smegma.
did you know the ting brothers' DADDY, Dr. Ting, engineered the state of the art, performance enhancing smegma used by many athletes?
smegma smack.....cheesy.
Cane Haters what a surprise we are the same thug u that produces all star caliber players
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