Support for the theory John Kerry...

[Oh, Gee!!]

conservatives good- everyone else bad. that sums up yoni's existence on this board.

when looking to execute a war or tear down a dem's reputation, yoni's burden of proof is preponderance of the evidence. when attacking the reasons for war or the guilt of scooter libby, yoni's burden of proof elevates quite mysteriously to beyond all doubt. go figure

[George Gervin's Afro]

Actually, no. The evidence against Kerry goes back to his lying testimony before the Senate in 1971 all the way through his lying about his lies, during the 2004 presidential campaign.

All this guy confirms is the obvious...Kerry's a liar.

lying? that he admitted to committing an atrocity and that other US servicemen committed attrocities? what did he lie about during his campaign?

[Oh, Gee!!]

You're such a ing simpleton. I pity your family...if, in fact, you have one.

you're a jerk, yoni. why do you have to make personal attacks?

[Yonivore]

when looking to execute a war or tear down a dem's reputation, yoni's burden of proof is preponderance of the evidence. when attacking the reasons for war or the guilt of scooter libby, yoni's burden of proof elevates quite mysteriously to beyond all doubt. go figure

Okay, did Kerry testify before the Senate about things this guy claims the Communists were planting in the media? Yes or no?

Did Kerry go from claiming to have been involved with the atrocities to which he testified to only having knowledge of them through the Winter Soldier fiasco? Yes or no?

Were the Winter Soldiers found out to be a bunch of ing liars? Yes or no?

Did the North Vietnamese lionize Kerry and give him special recognition in their musuem dedicated to the war, based on his lies (and others like them) eroding American morale to the point of surrender just before they, themselves, were ready to surrender? Yes or no?

Did John Kerry throw someone else medals over the White House fence and lie about it? Yes or no?

Did John Kerry lie about going into Cambodia during his 4 month stint in Vietnam? Yes or no?

Did John Kerry lie about the cir stances surrounding one or all of his three Purple Hearts? Yes or no?

Did John Kerry show a complete disdain for the American military by claiming only idiots who could get a good education end up "stuck" in Iraq -- when, in fact, there are more college graduates and professionals serving in the military today than at any other time in the history of this country? Yes or no?

There's your preponderance in there...depending on whether or not you answer those questions yes or no.

[George Gervin's Afro]

when looking to execute a war or tear down a dem's reputation, yoni's burden of proof is preponderance of the evidence. when attacking the reasons for war or the guilt of scooter libby, yoni's burden of proof elevates quite mysteriously to beyond all doubt. go figure

I guess that sum's up nicely how I feel about Yoni... he will take terrorists at their word when it makes dems look bad and conservatives look good.. yet when the opposite happens he then dismisses the same terrorists as having zero credibilty. Anyone who believes the administration mislead the country into going to war can easily point out contradictions of 'evidence' but cannot take the same liberty and assume they did based preponderance of the evidence.

[Yonivore]

you're a jerk, yoni. why do you have to make personal attacks?

Just making an observation based on his post.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Okay, did Kerry testify before the Senate about things this guy claims the Communists were planting in the media? Yes or no?

Did Kerry go from claiming to have been involved with the atrocities to which he testified to only having knowledge of them through the Winter Soldier fiasco? Yes or no?

Were the Winter Soldiers found out to be a bunch of ing liars? Yes or no?

Did the North Vietnamese lionize Kerry and give him special recognition in their musuem dedicated to the war, based on his lies (and others like them) eroding American morale to the point of surrender just before they, themselves, were ready to surrender? Yes or no?

Did John Kerry throw someone else medals over the White House fence and lie about it? Yes or no?

Did John Kerry lie about going into Cambodia during his 4 month stint in Vietnam? Yes or no?

Did John Kerry lie about the cir stances surrounding one or all of his three Purple Hearts? Yes or no?

Did John Kerry show a complete disdain for the American military by claiming only idiots who could get a good education end up "stuck" in Iraq -- when, in fact, there are more college graduates and professionals serving in the military today than at any other time in the history of this country? Yes or no?

There's your preponderance in there...depending on whether or not you answer those questions yes or no.

Maybe he forgot like scoooter libby did? He probably was confused.

[Yonivore]

Maybe he forgot like scoooter libby did? He probably was confused.

Maybe.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I guess that sum's up nicely how I feel about Yoni... he will take terrorists at their word when it makes dems look bad and conservatives look good.. yet when the opposite happens he then dismisses the same terrorists as having zero credibilty. Anyone who believes the administration mislead the country into going to war can easily point out contradictions of 'evidence' but cannot take the same liberty and assume they did based preponderance of the evidence.

and he thinks that he can post whatever thoughts that pop into his head and we should all believe it's the gospel truth, but when anyone else posts a contradicting opinion he wants a link or third-party verification.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Did John Kerry show a complete disdain for the American military by claiming only idiots who could get a good education end up "stuck" in Iraq -- when, in fact, there are more college graduates and professionals serving in the military today than at any other time in the history of this country? Yes or no?

Yes Yoni is taking ANOTHER comment out of context. If yoni were an honest person he would admit that Kerry did clarify his statement later saying he mean't to say was " get US stuck in Iraq". A jab at the president. This yet another example of him and other tlak radio types taking statements out of context and using them for political advantage. I have little respect for people who do this.

[Yonivore]

and he thinks that he can post whatever thoughts that pop into his head and we should all believe it's the gospel truth,...

I don't ask you believe anything. But, you're right, I can post whatever thoughts pop into my head. Until Kori bans me, that is. So, deal.

but when anyone else posts a contradicting opinion he wants a link or third-party verification.

Most of my posts contain linked sources. Just like the one that originated this thread.

How old are you?

I'll be glad when school starts again.

[Yonivore]

Yes Yoni is taking ANOTHER comment out of context. If yoni were an honest person he would admit that Kerry did clarify his statement later saying he mean't to say was " get US stuck in Iraq". A jab at the president. This yet another example of him and other tlak radio types taking statements out of context and using them for political advantage. I have little respect for people who do this.

Yeah, it took him a while to frame that clarification. No one in the military bought the explanation either.

George Gervin's Afro = useful idiot for John Kerry.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Most of my posts contain linked sources. Just like the one that originated this thread.

actually, by your own admission, most of your posts are stolen (i.e. not sourced) from bloggers

How old are you? I'll be glad when school starts again.

what a surprise, yoni reverts to name-calling.

[Yonivore]

"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get [us] stuck in Iraq."

I see the difference. Kerry was poking fun at a man who had both a Harvard and Yale education; who had been a successful businessman; who had never lost a political campaign; and who was president of the United States about being uneducated.

Let's try to recall how many days it took for him to come up with the missing "us." A week. Now, who's slow?

Nice try.

[Yonivore]

actually, by your own admission, most of your posts are stolen (i.e. not sourced) from bloggers

But, they contain linked sources.

what a surprise, yoni reverts to name-calling.

Children seem to respond to that.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Yeah, it took him a while to frame that clarification. No one in the military bought the explanation either.

George Gervin's Afro = useful idiot for John Kerry.

In all honesty Yoni you know he clarified the statement but it was fast enough for you. Secondly, I voted for Kerry while holding my nose. I am big enough to admit that but your not when you continually take quotes out of context. This is why I don't have much respect for people like you. Why? Becasue your smart enough to realize what you are doing in not honest. so in the honesty dept you and kerry can enjoy eachother..

[Yonivore]

In all honesty Yoni you know he clarified the statement but it was fast enough for you. Secondly, I voted for Kerry while holding my nose. I am big enough to admit that but your not when you continually take quotes out of context. This is why I don't have much respect for people like you. Why? Becasue your smart enough to realize what you are doing in not honest. so in the honesty dept you and kerry can enjoy eachother..

So, do us all a favor and quit responding to me.

I don't have any respect for a person that holds their nose while voting. It's kind of like the sissy that doesn't know how to exhale through their nose when diving or jumping into the pool.

[Oh, Gee!!]

But, they contain linked sources.

stolen means not sourced.

Children seem to respond to that.

actually children are the ones that name-call, adults are the ones that correct them. figure out which one you are.

[George Gervin's Afro]

"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get [us] stuck in Iraq."

I see the difference. Kerry was poking fun at a man who had both a Harvard and Yale education; who had been a successful businessman; who had never lost a political campaign; and who was president of the United States about being uneducated.

Let's try to recall how many days it took for him to come up with the missing "us." A week. Now, who's slow?

Nice try.

never lost a campaign? he was republican in Texas.. how hard is that?
successful business man? everyhting he was invloved failed.

THE PRESIDENT: By the way, this guy -- PhD. See, I was a C student. (Laughter.) He's a PhD, so he's probably got a little more credibility. I do think it's interesting and should be heartening for all C students out there, notice who's the President and who's the advisor. (Laughter and applause.) All right, Andrew, get going. (Applause.) Andrew's got a good sense of humor.

Yes this man is yoni's hero..

I see the difference.

Yet you still take it out of context.

[George Gervin's Afro]

So, do us all a favor and quit responding to me.

I don't have any respect for a person that holds their nose while voting. It's kind of like the sissy that doesn't know how to exhale through their nose when diving or jumping into the pool.

Sissy? like 5 deferrment ? Bush the alabama shore protecter?

I respond to you because I like to point out how you aren't honest. why do you respond to me?

[Yonivore]

never lost a campaign? he was republican in Texas.. how hard is that?
successful business man? everyhting he was invloved failed.

Well, he beat Ann Richards -- a sitting (and popular) Democratic Governor. He gained the respect, admiration, and friendship of Bob Bullock, a sitting (and popular) Democratic Lieutenant Governor.

Texas Rangers were worth more when he left than when he arrived.

Yes this man is yoni's hero..

Yep, human, self-effacing, and compassionate. Certainly more of a every man than John "Gigolo poodle" Kerry.

Yet you still take it out of context.

It only took him a week to figure out his own joke?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Well, he beat Ann Richards -- a sitting (and popular) Democratic Governor. He gained the respect, admiration, and friendship of Bob Bullock, a sitting (and popular) Democratic Lieutenant Governor.

Texas Rangers were worth more when he left than when he arrived.


Yep, human, self-effacing, and compassionate. Certainly more of a every man than John "Gigolo poodle" Kerry.


It only took him a week to figure out his own joke?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,226490,00.html

Uh Yoni he clarified it the next day. dude you were caught in another lie again.. let it go.

"I'm sick and tired of these de able Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did," Kerry said.

"I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq. It disgusts me."

[Yonivore]

"I'm sick and tired of these de able Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did," Kerry said. "I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq. It disgusts me."

How, exactly, is that clarifying? Seems to me he was deflecting by attacking those who pointed out his jab at the military.

[George Gervin's Afro]

How, exactly, is that clarifying? Seems to me he was deflecting by attacking those who pointed out his jab at the military.

In the link he clarifies his statement. The quote was for all of the chickhawks on this board.

[Yonivore]

In the link he clarifies his statement. The quote was for all of the chickhawks on this board.

So, quote his clarification then.

And, I noticed you left this portion of that quote out; Oh, what the , let's just look at his entire statement which, by the way, was in response to the White House's criticism of his jab at the military and let's all analyze where he clarified his "joke."

If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy.

Well, then paint him crazy because this is the same guy who came home from Vietnam and accused our troops of being war criminals, using Ghengis Khan tactics, and cutting off ears.

This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I’m sick and tired of these de able Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did.
I’m not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq. It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have.

The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it. These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.

Bottom line, these Republicans want to debate straw men because they’re afraid to debate real men. And this time it won’t work because we’re going to stay in their face with the truth and deny them even a sliver of light for their distortions. No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq.

Nice clarification.