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    Corpus Christi Spurs Fan Phenomanul's Avatar
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    Americans who work the system are more of a tax burden than those who actually contribute to the economy, illegal or not... Until that travesty is addressed (or unless a shift of emphasis is made towards these frauds - actual criminals) targeting 'illegal' immigration as our biggest social burden will always come off as a cop out.
    Last edited by Phenomanul; 08-09-2007 at 03:38 PM.

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    With the new era of political correctness it is obviously not cool to use the term " " now.

    Soooo...whats your favorite replacement term? We have started calling them foreign exchange students.

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    Mrs.Useruser666 SpursWoman's Avatar
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    I agree with this statement.

    It's more like Eastern Indians are taking Dell jobs from Americans!

    Dell's Malaysia plant got a lot of jobs that used to be in New Braunfels.

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    Speaking of outsourcing, why is nobody nearly as outraged about this?

    If opponents of illegals are made about the economic burden of illegals, I wonder if they realize our economy is greatly affected by consumer spending. It's awfully hard to stimulate the economy with spending when you don't have a job, or when your wages and/or benefits are slashed because Sanjaya is willing to do it for a fraction of the cost in India.

    But hey, all those ex-Dell employees in New Braunfels, someone tell them that there will soon be lots of jobs picking grapefruits and oranges in the valley, just as soon as we run out the illegals taking those jobs from them. Goodbye, unemployment line! o working stiff!

    Where is the outrage there? Or is this OK because you don't actually have to see Sanjaya everyday in his call center cubicle, unlike Pedro and Juanito, who you have to see selling oranges everyday? Just because they don't set foot on our shores doesn't mean that they don't have the same impact. Where is the outrage?

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    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
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    It's a world economy. Sucks, but thats the way it is. Y'all just better hope that the politicians in Washington quit rattling their mouths at China over their currency valuations. If China starts dumping dollars our economy will go to in a hurry. If you think it's bad now, just wait.

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    Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Viva Las Espuelas's Avatar
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    With the new era of political correctness it is obviously not cool to use the term " " now.

    Soooo...whats your favorite replacement term? We have started calling them foreign exchange students.
    well i'm a " ". . greaser whatever you wanna call it. being PC is old already. people need to grow up, and a spine, and just deal with it. I'm an equal opportunity offender.

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    ATRAIN is gay peewee's lovechild's Avatar
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    are you that dense? I don't want anybody to help me with my debt. I'm just using that as an example of my point. I'm just saying tax paying people--and i'm not talking about sales tax. come on know. even a 5 year old legal or illegal pays sales tax--pay for civil services, schools, etc. and illegals reap the benefits of 1040EZ taxpayers money. that's my "dumb ass" point
    You're right, it was a "dumb ass" point.

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    It's only a matter of time before Hispanics are the majority in this country.

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    If you think it's bad now, just wait
    Having unemployment at or under 4% sure does suck yeah.

    The economy is just .

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    It's only a matter of time before Hispanics are the majority in this country.

    I've still got a few good baby-making years left...so don't count us crackers out yet.

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    ATRAIN is gay peewee's lovechild's Avatar
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    I've still got a few good baby-making years left...so don't count us crackers out yet.
    But, if I were to get to you . . . it would be a beige revolution!!!

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    Blaming immigrants is a copout. It's not like you see them picked up off the street to do a day's worth of reports in a nice cushy office in a city's CBD. They do jobs for pay without virtually all of the protections Americans take for granted.

    Americans are some dumb mother ers. They blame people who couldn't ever take their jobs about their pay yet don't realize those same people are helping to keep their cost of living down. Man, I could just see some American-born 20 something having to dig a ditch on a nice cool crisp August afternoon in South Texas without ing about it.

    Anyways, all of you are the sons and daugthers of immigrants. Act like it.

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    Purrrrrrrrrrrr Holt's Cat's Avatar
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    It's only a matter of time before Hispanics are the majority in this country.
    Good. Then we'll make fun of your asses.

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    Good. Then we'll make fun of your asses.
    ????

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    clue #4 - holtscat alter ego is hispanic.

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    Demonizing lawbreakers for lawbreaking. Interesting.

    Clearly, many people don't think it's a good idea to have secure borders. Suit yourselves. I just don't want to hear you when someone sneaks across and wipes out some of your family, along with thousands of others, with a dirty bomb.

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    Demonizing lawbreakers for lawbreaking. Interesting.

    Clearly, many people don't think it's a good idea to have secure borders. Suit yourselves. I just don't want to hear you when someone sneaks across and wipes out some of your family, along with thousands of others, with a dirty bomb.
    Yea, cuz Mexicans can afford it and they really care about American politics.

    Solid, solid point there.

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    HOW TO DECIPHER A TOTALLY NONSENSICAL POST
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    Why waste time? Let's go to the video tape:

    Here was my post:

    Demonizing lawbreakers for lawbreaking. Interesting.

    Clearly, many people don't think it's a good idea to have secure borders. Suit yourselves. I just don't want to hear you when someone sneaks across and wipes out some of your family, along with thousands of others, with a dirty bomb.
    Here was the response:

    Yea, cuz Mexicans can afford it and they really care about American politics.

    Solid, solid point there.
    I begin by asking the question: Afford what? What in my post referred to Mexicans affording anything?

    The phrase following the conjunction was at least comprehensible, if still ludicrous:

    they really care about American politics.
    Well, I don't give a that they don't give a about what we do. The point is, we need to do a better job securing all of our points of entry: The Mexican border. The Canadian border. Our airports. Our seaports. And we need to punish those who hire illegals, simple as that.

    Everyone who wants in should be allowed in as long as they go through the process. Why is this a problem?

    Please respond to this post only if you have at least a vague semblance of intelligence. Thanks.

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    clue #4 - holtscat alter ego is hispanic.
    Ya I figured. I guess he doesn't realize I'm hispanic though?

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    Please respond to this post only if you have at least a vague semblance of intelligence. Thanks.
    You just disqualified about 98% of the posters in here. Including me.


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    Mrs.Useruser666 SpursWoman's Avatar
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    clue #4 - holtscat alter ego is hispanic.
    No, it's not.

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    Demonizing lawbreakers for lawbreaking. Interesting.

    Clearly, many people don't think it's a good idea to have secure borders. Suit yourselves. I just don't want to hear you when someone sneaks across and wipes out some of your family, along with thousands of others, with a dirty bomb.
    slippery slope way of thinking.

    it is almost impossible to make the border clearly uncrossable. Penn and Teller did an episode on this and showed how easy it was to climb over the expected new wall being built out there.

    Mexican border crossing for terrorism is a lose-lose situation for smugglers. They don' want to do business with terrrorists, because it is bad to have the Govt. after your ass when something does happen and your business goes to ZERO.

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    Demonizing lawbreakers for lawbreaking. Interesting.

    Clearly, many people don't think it's a good idea to have secure borders. Suit yourselves. I just don't want to hear you when someone sneaks across and wipes out some of your family, along with thousands of others, with a dirty bomb.
    Typical myopic paranoia...

    The 9/11 terrorists did not come in through Mexico... Nor did the '93 Terrorist attackers, or the Oklahoma City Bomber, or the Washington D.C. Snipers, or the '96 Atlanta Bomber...

    For that matter gangs and actual criminals, will be a threat no matter where you go... to assume or even assert that locking out the border will fix this problem is rather naive.

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