Return of the draft?

[ggoose25]

I am so sick of you guys opposed to Iraq implying WMD is the only reason. That is far from the truth. Again, the likes of you prove yourself to be a lemming just following the propaganda.

Wake up, do some fact checking.

You wake up. How do you think they sold this war? It wasn't through nation building. It was through 's "mushroom cloud" prophecy.

Do you think the American people wouldve agreed had the Bushies not scared the ever loving out of them with references to another terrorist attack?

You are very well educated. Use some common sense.

[UV Ray]

The draft is the final barrier that insulates the American populace with the Iraq war. The Bush Adminstration knows damn well that a draft would cause hundreds of millions of American fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers to shed their "not my problem" apathy and judge the need for us to be in Iraq, and the answer would be a resounding "No".

But wait a second, I thought learning to kill, destroy and be shot at for no good reason was a good way to become a man.

[Wild Cobra]

You wake up. How do you think they sold this war? It wasn't through nation building. It was through 's "mushroom cloud" prophecy.

First of all, there was WMD. It just isn't accounted for.

I don't recall the media harping on anything but what is most sensational. Blame the media on that hype, not the administration.

The president laid out clear reasons. The reasons were clear in the UN resolutions that Saddam violated also. We even had other nations with us.

Do you think the American people wouldve agreed had the Bushies not scared the ever loving out of them with references to another terrorist attack?

Agreement doesn't matter. This is a representative democracy, not a true democracy. Those who make decisions based on polls are losers. President Bush continues to lead when consensus is now against him. I sure wish people could respect him for being a man rather than a pussy.

You are very well educated. Use some common sense.

I do use common sense. I also use experience and knowledge. All I see is you repeating unverified propaganda.

[ggoose25]

First of all, there was WMD. It just isn't accounted for.

They're still looking for it? Oh no it left before we could find it, right?

I don't recall the media harping on anything but what is most sensational. Blame the media on that hype, not the administration.

The president laid out clear reasons. The reasons were clear in the UN resolutions that Saddam violated also. We even had other nations with us.

Same old answer. Blame the liberal media. Blame the media. NO accountability for the administration. For someone who likes to say I believe in propaganda, you sure do make a lot on your own.

Agreement doesn't matter. This is a representative democracy, not a true democracy. Those who make decisions based on polls are losers.

Wow... agreement doesn't matter. In two years when a Democrat is in the WH it will matter a great deal to you.

President Bush continues to lead when consensus is now against him. I sure wish people could respect him for being a man rather than a pussy.

No. He's definitely not a pussy. But your praise of leadership and demand of respect require higher standards than just plain stubbornness.

[rascal]

I see Wild Cobra is a blind follower of Bush .

[J.T.]

Do you have to pass a drug test to be drafted? Because it'd probably take me 6 months to clear a urine test, much longer for a hair test.

[boutons_]

You can't get in if you have ADD.

If you want to go kill and get paid well, go sign up with a mercenary company like BlackWater.

The money and sleeping arrangements, holidays, are MUCH better, and you are legally immune. Rape and murder without fear.

Not sure about the health/pension coverage.

[J.T.]

You can't get in if you have ADD.

Would they take someone who's a chronic weed head like me? Because if I can't get drafted if I fail a pot test, I'm going to smile a little wider after every hit I take for the rest of my life.

[DarkReign]

I agree with mandatory military training. I don't agree with a draft for wars. I think this would be a better place to live if everyone went through at least 2 months of military training. No commitments, just basic training, and an optional test of a military job. Everyone, male and female. Not just lottery picks like the draft does, but 100% able bodied.

Agreed. I regret not entering the military. But, IMO, active duty under mandatory military enlistment should be optional.

That way its still an all voluntary military.

[xrayzebra]

You can't get in if you have ADD.

If you want to go kill and get paid well, go sign up with a mercenary company like BlackWater.

The money and sleeping arrangements, holidays, are MUCH better, and you are legally immune. Rape and murder without fear.

Not sure about the health/pension coverage.

You aren't sure of much. Except Bush is the cause of
everything from hang nails to global warming.

[boutons_]

The Army brasss has wanted an all-volunteer, professional Army since VN.
They spent nearly 30 years achieving that goal. Dubya has ed all their effort. Active and reserve officers are resigning and retiring as soon as they can.

Without the Iraq up, the 2003 military was plenty big to handle Afghanistan and similar actions.

It was dubya/ head/rummy who bit off more in Iraq than the military could chew, in task size and in duration.

Any need for a draft now is totally the fault of dubya/ head starting a bogus war and desk-jockey Rummy saying it could and should be done with the smallest force possible (aka "the army you have"), just the opposite of the successful Powell doctrine of overwhelming force.

head called invading Iraq a quagmire and that's exactly what he got. 17 more months, and he can walk away from the whole stinking pile of .

[Wild Cobra]

I see Wild Cobra is a blind follower of Bush .

If you've read my posting much at all, then you know I am not a blind follower. There are several things about president Bush I dislike. However, hating the man over disagreements is rather evil isn't it?

[boutons_]

"you know I am not a blind follower."

the lies never stop

[smeagol]

Only selfish people think that way. I would support this war with or without the draft. We did it for a good and clear cause.

You, whottt and Yoni are probably the only posters who trully believe this BS statement.

[DarkReign]

You, whottt and Yoni are probably the only posters who trully believe this BS statement.

Absolutely, unequivocally true. The scary part is, people seem to buy their masters bull somehow.

In a political world chocked full of liars and criminals, theyve attached themselves to the better liars and criminals and somehow brought the electoral majority over to their side in the process.

I guess Rove is a genius.

[Wild Cobra]

Absolutely, unequivocally true. The scary part is, people seem to buy their masters bull somehow.

Believe as you wish. I have some solid reasons, primarily my roles in the service of this nation.

I'm sorry you others don't have an open mind to the possibility it was the correct thing to do.