2007-2008 season

[yourcheatinheart]

You're assuming it would take us 7 games to beat the Suns.

It wouldn't, and it won't while Timmy reigns in S.A.

suns in 7.

[spursreport]

Tell me more, Nostradamus. Since you can tell the future, can you get in touch with my stockbroker?

So saying that teams who live and die by the jumper wont win the le is seeing into the future or hating? I just look at the history and jumpshooting teams dont win les. That isnt hate or trying to be a fortune teller. It is a fact. If you want to throw the "anything can happen" bull card at me then the Wolves have a chance of winning it all next season. If something is broke fix it. No low post game for the Mavs means they remain the same offensive team who lives and dies by the jumper which will result in another playoff exit. I just get a kick out of people who tend to think that jumpshooting teams can all of a sudden win a le.

[Roxsfan]

^^ha

[Findog]

suns in 7.

Over whom? Not the Spurs.

[Findog]

So saying that teams who live and die by the jumper wont win the le is seeing into the future or hating?

Who on the Bulls was a back to the basket low-post scorer? And on one hand you say the Mavs can't win a le without a low-post scorer, then on the other hand you say they should've won a le but they choked it away, Miami didn't win a le so much as Dallas lost one. Pick a lane please.

[mavs>spurs2]

Who on the Bulls was a back to the basket low-post scorer? And on one hand you say the Mavs can't win a le without a low-post scorer, then on the other hand you say they should've won a le but they choked it away, Miami didn't win a le so much as Dallas lost one. Pick a lane please.

Not only that, but he calls the Mavs a "jump shooting team" when all of our scorers outside of Dirk are slashers, not spot up shooters. Howard, Harris, Stackhouse, etc will all take it to the rim before settling for a jumper.

[Dalhoop]

Actualy, the Mavs don't even have a "spot-up" jump shooter. The closest that we have I would think is now Jones and without seeing him play this year, he may still want to go to the rack.

Not only the Bulls teams, but the Pistons a few years ago also didn't have a "Low post player" Rasheed is more known for his jump shot then backing someone down and Ben was not even the fifth option when he was on the floor.

People like saying "Jump shooting teams don't win in the playoffs" because Charles says it on TNT so it must be true, but the truth is that every team is a jump shooting team when the shots are falling and every team is a slashing team when the shots are not falling.

When Duncan shoots his 10ft bankshot ... Thats a jump shot. When Parker cut to the rim and finds a teammate for an open shot ... Thats a jump shot.

ANYTHING other then a dunk or layup is a jumpshot ... I say no team that cannot hit a JUMP SHOT will ever win the NBA trophy. Did Bowen make a shot last year? Jump shot. Did Manu can a three last year? Jump shot. Did Duncan hit a Jump Shot? Most of hit shots are.

Please stop repeating stupid thinks that commintators say.

[Findog]

Not only that, but he calls the Mavs a "jump shooting team" when all of our scorers outside of Dirk are slashers, not spot up shooters. Howard, Harris, Stackhouse, etc will all take it to the rim before settling for a jumper.

Yeah, the guy falls into that segment of the Spurs' fanbase that is absolutely terrified of Dallas because we're the only team in the League that has been able to send them home, so he denigrates the Mavs any chance he gets. Like 29 other teams that didn't get it done, the Mavs have fatal flaws. Having said that, given our cap situation improves next year and the FA class is much stronger in 08, this was not the summer to make a major shakeup. Although now that Juwan Howard is asking out of Minny, I'd rather have him than Chris Webber. As a backup for Dirk, he is low-post scoring in the paint personified.

We ran into our own personal kryptonite in the Warriors. Up-tempo teams like GS and PHX give us problems.

[icem]

Not only that, but he calls the Mavs a "jump shooting team" when all of our scorers outside of Dirk are slashers, not spot up shooters. Howard, Harris, Stackhouse, etc will all take it to the rim before settling for a jumper.

didnt appear that way against Golden State.....

[spursreport]

Slashing only does so much. It doesnt make up for the lack of a post up game. Plus when teams get real physical with the Mavs slashers, they stop slashing and revert to clanking jumpers. That is when the lack of an inside game bites them in the ass harder than ever. Oh and dont compare the Mavs situation to the Bulls. MJ was/is the best player of all time as he was able to win without a dominant bigman. That is a rare exception. Dont compare the Mavs to the Pistons either. Sheed had the strength to play down low as he did that during the later part of the finals. Plus the Pistons had a GREAT defense which is something the Mavs also lack. They are a good defensive team but nowhere near a great one. If Irk is one of their interior defenders, it doesnt really scare anyone to drive on them.

Oh and Findog it was a mix of choking and getting outplayed for the Mavs. They were in perfect position to go up 3-0 but choked away that 13 point lead. That win gave Miami new life which gave them another opportunity to expose the mavs weaknesses on both sides of the ball. Riley ball was a nightmare for that entire dallas team because they knew they were hitting the ground hard anytime they took it to the hoop. That put fear in the Mavs slashers which resulted in clanking jumpers as they were wearing down mentally and physically. Wade was also able to get any shot he wanted not just cuz the Mavs couldnt stop him on the perimeter, but they werent that great inside. When you have 1 player who cant defend worth a inside the paint or at all like Irk, aggressive players like Wade,B-Diddy,Amare etc are going to have alot of success getting to the hoop.

[Findog]

Oh and Findog it was a mix of choking and getting outplayed for the Mavs. They were in perfect position to go up 3-0 but choked away that 13 point lead. .

Again, pick a lane. Either Dallas gave away a le, in which case they can win as constructed, or they can't win as constructed and Miami won the le, Dallas didn't lose it. You keep contradicting yourself.

[monosylab1k]

Dallas doesn't have a spot up jump shooter? What the is Jason Terry then?

Then again, I guess you have to make shots when it counts to be a spot up jump shooter.

Calling Dallas a team of slashers is laughable homer-talk. If they're slashers, they in suck at it.

[monosylab1k]

didnt appear that way against Golden State.....

exactly what I was thinking. didn't appear that way in Miami either.

[SpursDynasty]

We call Dallas a jump shooting team because jump shooting is all they do. Of course all teams take jump shots, but Dallas relies on the jump shot too much.

Spurs can get their points in the paint, Dallas can't.

With Dallas on the decline and getting older, we should expect to see the Spurs repeat as champs. Their chance has passed them by, as they pass the torch to SA.

[BobcatsDynasty]

We call Dallas a jump shooting team because jump shooting is all they do. Of course all teams take jump shots, but Dallas relies on the jump shot too much.

Spurs can get their points in the paint, Dallas can't.

With Dallas on the decline and getting older, we should expect to see the Spurs repeat as champs. Their chance has passed them by, as they pass the torch to SA.

Bobcats can get their points in the paint (Okakor), slashing (Wallace), and jump shooting (Morrison aka God).

With San Antonio on the decline and getting older and not capable of repeating ever, we should expect to see Charlotte become champions. The Spurs chance at repeating has passed them by, as they pass the torch to Charlotte.

[Findog]

With Dallas on the decline and getting older, we should expect to see the Spurs repeat as champs. Their chance has passed them by, as they pass the torch to SA.

Yes! This is what I'm talking about! You're back on your game SpursDynasty.

[stretch]

With Dallas on the decline and getting older, we should expect to see the Spurs repeat as champs. Their chance has passed them by, as they pass the torch to SA.

You are one dumb .

Technically, we never had the torch. It's sad that a faced homer like you, can't even discredit teams you hate correctly.

[LEONARD]

*bookmarked*

Love me some Jeff!!

[Dalhoop]

Just so that you all know the correct stat to talk about when trying to bring the Mavs down, its Points in the paint, that is the one stat that will have the Mavs win or loose.

With the Spurs is not that important, with the Mavs it is EVERYTHING.

When the Mav win the points in the paint battle, they WIN THE GAME. The Mavs were 32-1 in those games (35-14 when loosing the Points in the Paint)... For those of you that are keeping track, that means that the Mavs had a better inside game then their opponite in 33 of the 84 games ... So much for the idea that we have no inside game.

Just to compare, the Spurs won the points in the paint in 45 games going 33-12. They suffered their other 12 losses when loosing the points in the paint battle ... It really isn't a good berometer for the Spurs, but for the Mavs, it is as good as a "W"

The best points in the paint team? Orlando, they won the inside game in 68 of the 84 games. Worst? Toronto, they won the battle in only 24 of the games last year.

[SpursDynasty]

Dallas is the worst points in the paint team. Who drives the ball inside other than Devin Harris?

We have Dirk the so-called "MVP" of the league who jacks up a bunch of shots and is just a really good shooter. That didn't get him through Golden State so now after losing he had to go travel the world to find himself or something.

Jason Terry just jacks up shots and happens to be a streaky shooter only on occasion. The rest of the time he throws up bricks.

Same with Jerry Stackhouse and Josh Coward. They just get the right shots to fall at the right times, making them seem better than they actually are.

I would be willing to bet that Brent Barry has more variety in his scoring than half of that Dallas team doing the same over and over.

With no intention of making jokes, I STILL believe 100% that 20% of Dallas' 67 wins last year came when their opponents had off nights.

[monosylab1k]

Same with Jerry Stackhouse and Josh Coward. They just get the right shots to fall at the right times, making them seem better than they actually are.

Hooooolllllyyyyyyyyyy Shiiiiiittttttttt

Did he really just say this?

[monosylab1k]

What successful player DOESN'T get the right shots to fall at the right times?

[SpursDynasty]

Hooooolllllyyyyyyyyyy Shiiiiiittttttttt

Did he really just say this?

I wasn't complimenting them. They just get shots to go down at the right times, but the majority of the time they are nothing more than your average wannabe player.

[LEONARD]

dp

[LEONARD]

Dallas is the worst points in the paint team.

It's a simple stat dip ...the Mavs weren't the worst, despite your opinion that they were...

With no intention of making jokes, I STILL believe 100% that 20% of Dallas' 67 wins last year came when their opponents had off nights.

With no intention of making jokes, I STILL believe 100% that YOU'RE ING STUPID...