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A couple of posts above I reported that Grande struck a deal with the NFL network and the games will be on the tier this year. So if you have Grande you aren't going to get the shaft this year.
I had the same package with Grande last yr & was totally freaking hyped for the 1st game & was pissed when I got the scroll message on the bottom saying I wasn't in the home teams local area & couldn't view the game.
I was ok with it til the Dallas vs Atl game in Dec & was left scrambling to find a place to watch the game like all the other Grande screwed customers.
Good luck if you get the package & pay $12 like I did last yr.
I'll be seeing you in a bar like Buffalo Wild Wings watching the Cowboys because you ain't seeing it on Grande.
A couple of posts above I reported that Grande struck a deal with the NFL network and the games will be on the tier this year. So if you have Grande you aren't going to get the shaft this year.
Thursday, August 30, 2007
By Mike Copeland
Tribune-Herald business editor
Grande Communications will show all eight NFL Network games this football season on its standard digital package, including two involving the Dallas Cowboys and another featuring the Houston Texans.
This would appear to give it a compe ive advantage over Time Warner Cable among rabid Central Texas football fans.
Last season neither local cable company carried NFL Network games, but each hosted parties at restaurants the evening of Dec. 16, when the Cowboys butted heads with the Atlanta Falcons.
NFL Network games on Grande
A rundown of the NFL Network games that Grande Communications will air this season. All start at 7 p.m.
Nov. 29 — Dallas Cowboys vs. Green Bay Packers
Dec. 6 — Chicago Bears vs. Washington Redskins
Dec. 13 — Houston Texans vs. Denver Broncos
Dec. 15 — Cincinnati Bengals vs. San Francisco 49ers
Dec. 20 — Pittsburgh Steelers vs. St. Louis Rams
Dec. 22 — Dallas Cowboys vs. Carolina Panthers
Dec. 29 — New England Patriots vs. New York Giants
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Grande will carry the NFL Network’s eight-game schedule, which features games on Thursdays and Saturdays, on Digital Channel 128. For basic digital, Grande charges $56.95 a month, Rohre said. That’s a $2-a-month increase over last year’s monthly digital rate. Rohre said the price bump went into effect in January.
“Last year we faced a lot of questions from our customers over just one game involving the Cowboys. This season, there are going to be two Dallas games and a Houston Texans game, so we knew we needed to respond to our customers’ wishes,” Rohre said.
The NFL Network is the official network of the National Football League, which makes a limited number of games available to satellite providers and cable companies that negotiate deals.
It appears Time Warner Cable will not be showing NFL Network games this year, though negotiations are continuing. The two sides have locked horns over the issue of showing the games on a special sports tier for which cable customers would pay extra.
The cable company wants to do business that way, but NFL Network spokesman Seth Palansky said, “A tier goes straight to the bottom line of our fans, and it is not an acceptable resolution to us.”
NFL Network wants the games included in a basic package, where the games can be seen by more people.
Palansky said more than 200 companies nationwide carry the games provided by NFL Network. Time Warner Cable could be doing the same, he said, if it were serious about negotiating a deal.
“It really just comes down to this: They are not just a cable company. They own a bunch of channels as well, and they don’t want compe ion for those channels. They have proposed a sports tier, but we don’t believe in that kind of pay-per-view approach.”
Stacy Schmitt, vice president of public affairs for local Time Warner Cable operations, said the company believes a tier system would allow those wanting to watch the games to pay for them.
The company has proposed placing NFL Network on a sports tier for which it charges digital customers an extra $2.50 a month. This 11-channel tier is for true sports junkies, said Schmitt, and offers such fare as the tennis and soccer channels, ESPN News and a variety of Fox Sports offerings from different regions of the country.
Schmitt said the company has no plans to raise the $2.50 monthly fee if NFL Network becomes part of the tier. For basic digital service, Time Warner Cable charges $59.45 a month.
“We are still in active negotiations with NFL Network. Our stance remains that it belongs on a sports tier, but they are unwilling to accept that,” said Maureen Huff, a Time Warner Cable spokeswoman at company headquarters in New York.
Huff acknowledged that a separate division of Time Warner Inc. owns such networks as HBO and Turner Broadcasting System. But she called it a stretch to suggest that Time Warner Cable would not want to carry NFL Network because the games might compete with Turner Classic Movies.
“I don’t understand (Palansky’s) thinking on that,” she said, adding that Time Warner Cable carries a lot of sports networks, including the popular ESPN, “in which we have no ownership.”
Palansky repeated NFL Network’s stance that it is not interested in having its games offered on a special tier.
“Our channel costs the companies 2 cents a day per customer. but consumers paying for an extra tier could pay 20 times that amount (in some markets),” said Palansky. “That is not in the best interest of our customers, so it is not in our best interest.”
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Jones To Head NFL Network Committee
The NFL announced on Monday the appointment of Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones as the new chairman of the NFL Network Committee, which acts as the executive board of the league's year-round television service.
The Cowboys appear twice on NFL Network's live game schedule this season (Nov. 29 vs. Green Bay; Dec. 22 at Carolina) and as a result, Jones is keenly aware of fan interest in NFL Network.
"My immediate and primary objective is to ensure broad distribution of NFL Network to our millions of fans across the land," Jones said. "Today there are more options than ever before for consumers in terms of choosing a television provider. Satellite companies like DirecTV and Dish Network and telecommunications companies like Verizon and AT&T offer NFL Network on broad packages without extra costs to consumers.
"Those fans whose access to NFL Network is still being blocked by their cable provider will have both the opportunity and the incentive to switch providers if cable continues to deny customers the programming they want."
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cf...135E390F0D8F79
That was resolved and Grande is indeed carrying games this year. So sayeth my email from Grande that had me going "yippee"! a month or two ago.
http://www.ksat.com/sports/14399355/detail.html
KSAT.com
Time Warner Makes Offer To NFL Network
Time Warner Hopes To Add Pay-Per-View Football Channel
POSTED: 8:41 pm CDT October 22, 2007
UPDATED: 7:08 am CDT October 23, 2007
SAN ANTONIO -- The fight continues between the NFL Network and Time Warner Cable, and it could affect how viewers watch the Cowboys play this season.
The cable company said Monday it would be offering up a solution that would allow customers to pay for and watch NFL games on a per-game basis.
"It's a channel that allows NFL to put these games on and allows the NFL to charge whatever price they may want," said Jon Gary Herrera, of Time Warner Cable. "In addition, we said, we don't want any of the dollars. NFL: whatever you charge you will get 100 percent of that revenue."
The proposed network will carry eight regular season games, including two Cowboys games and one Texans game.
The NFL said it wants the channel to be included on the basic cable package, but Time Warner said that would force them to raise prices for all customers -- whether they want the channel or not.
So far, the NFL has refused any negotiations and has even launched an advertising campaign pressuring Time Warner to carry its network or encouraging viewers to switch to satellite TV.
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'As the stomach turns" !!!!!!!!!
get directv, it's cheaper and you don't have to put up with that Time Warner monopoly crap
Or get Grande (if they have extended to your area). It's cheaper than TW and eliminates the monopoly consideration, and they carry the full NFL network on their base digital package
From the desk of
Robert D. Marcus
Senior Executive Vice President
Oct. 22, 2007
Mr. Steven M. Bornstein
President & CEO
NFL Network
10950 Washington Boulevard, Suite 100
Culver City, CA 90232
Dear Steve:
As you know, Time Warner Cable always has been interested in trying to find a way to offer the NFL Network to our customers who want it at a reasonable cost, while not imposing substantial costs on those who don't. I am sure you share my disappointment that, to date, our efforts to reach such an arrangement have been unsuccessful. In your recent lobbying efforts, you have expressed concern that Time Warner Cable customers in out-of-market areas will be unable to view certain NFL Network games. We too would like to make sure that our customers who want to see these out-of-market games will be able to do so.
With that goal in mind, and to put the interests of fans first, we have a new proposal, which is in addition to our prior proposals to carry the NFL Network on a sports tier or premium basis and which still stand. In particular, Time Warner Cable would be willing to make the NFL Network games available to our customers on a per-game basis, at a retail price set by the NFL, with 100% of the revenue collected for this programming going to the NFL. While carriage with no mark-up to us is far from ideal from our point of view, we are willing to take this step to make sure no interested fan is unable to watch these games on our systems.
We are excited about this potential opportunity to allow those customers who want to view these NFL games to have access to them. If this proposal is agreeable to you, we are prepared to work expeditiously with your team to embody it in a definitive agreement.
Sincerely,
Robert D. Marcus
This is going to start an avalanche of if we end up having to actually pay to see a game.
Blame the NFL network headed by Jerry Jones!
Well not entirely. The NFL network wants TW to carry the channel free of charge to us at TW's expense and TW makes the money on advertising. TW wants to charge customers for the station rather than raise the price of cable a few bucks, this would make them a ton more money. I think TW should carry the channel free of charge just like the Golf channel and so forth. The market and demand is large enough. TW is just too greedy because they know if push comes to shove TW is bigger than the NFL Network.
The price of cable is going to go up no matter what and if you start charging for games now its not going to end well for the fans.
the golf channel is part of the sports pack, isn't it? NFL wants it part of basic cable, which is kinda stupid (assuming the situation is still the same). TW wants it to be part of a sports package like NBA TV is, which doesn't sound unreasonable to me. if the NFL network didn't totally suck ass for coverage and personnel, it would probably piss me off. i can always check the games at my friend's house.
I don't think a sports package is unreasonable. It used to be the NBA, NFL and one other channel for 8 bucks. I'm good with that. But to have to pay 10 or more bucks for just a game is re ed, I would not be shocked to see it be a PPV event running 20-25 bucks. I bet the NFL network would rival most regular cable channels. TW is just greedy and when that much greed is envolved on both ends it'll end badly for the consumer.
I don't have any special tier for the Golf channel.
I'm betting that the Golf Channel doesn't charge TWC as much as NFL TV wants to.Try to keep your eye on the ball: the NFL are the ones that decided to take games off of free Sunday network stations and monetize them. TWC wants to market them to sports tier channel subscribers. That would cut the NFL's revenue to only those subscribers instead of all subscribers. Hence, the war. Stern and the NBA tried this a few years ago, and failed miserably, thank God. NBA TV is now a marginal Sports tier channel. If these broad subscriber power plays by the leagues succeed, we'll see very little remaining free sports programming.
Anybody still have that *Wink Wink* for NFL viewing?
It's funny seeing one monopoly fighting another
You don't with Rich Uncle Pennybags.
If I'm in Waco, will the game be televised on a local station like fsn or something? We get Mavs games there all the time...
No. If you don't have NFL TV, you don't see the game...unless you go to a sports bar. Again, only NFL TV will broadcast the Cowboys/Packers game, no matter where you are.
Unless you live in The Metroplex or the Green Bay Market, you'll have to hoof it to a bar like the rest of us w/o the NFL Network.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...e.1a7f623.html
TW and the NFL Network...
add jerry jones to that list.
Weird, I'm getting the NFL Network feed from a local sports station up here in Toronto (TSN). I have NFLN anyways, but I'm still surprised it isn't being fed on any local stations down there.
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