Marbury Defends Vick

[barbacoataco]

People who hunt go out of their way to kill the animal quickly and humanely. Most all the time they are also eating the animal. This is totally different than dog fighting, which is a form of animal cruelty.

[tmtcsc]

Michael Vick is going to jail for racketeering, gambling illegally and probably tax evasion. I don't think its actually illegal to kill dogs. Most sensible and humane people with a heart wouldn't do it...

Marbury is just plain stupid. That goes for anyone offering up a counter opinion or justification for what he did. He had nothing to really gain monetarily, he is part of a compe ive profession (so he gets that fix from the NFL) and he had everything to lose by doing it. He had no respect for the treatment of these animals. Apparently, he didn't even want to waste a bullet on ending the suffering. Actually, he didn't want to end suffering, he just wanted to hurt and kill a dog that didn't perform well.

Could you imagine if we applied that reasoning to him ? Hey Michael, throw another pick, lose another game and we are going to drown, electrocute and beat your ass to death. He'd be a goner.

I have NO sympathy for his ignorant ass. I hope he becomes Tiny's new girlfriend. sick

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hmm, I've never seen anyone hunting set up rape stands for the deer that didn't have a certain number of points or anything like that.

Horrible analogy.

And that's not even getting into hunting being a legal and (somewhat) regulated sport, versus dog fights being very clearly illegal.

Again, horrible analogy by Marbury, and anyone supporting him.

Tons of breeders use those types of stands and they arent illegal. Ranchers cull their herds yet Vick murders dogs.

Fact is that Marbury has a point. You can go bowhunting deer for nothing other than their horns. Essentially outside of a culture preedominantly in the south americans see dogs as pets. The only issue is that not all cultures look at all animals the same. We look at cows as food for example whereas Hindus hold the animal sacred. Are they justified in trying to coopt our culture to fit their views? Why are we not decrying the eating of dogs in the Phillipines and in other regions of Asia?

Of course not and that is why I feel that we have no right to force other cultures to conform to our view of what an animals purpose is and all the while kill torture and generally abuse across the board. We as a culture still have trophy hunting, cosmetic animal testing, rodeos, dog racing and a whole slew of other things that are varying in degree of animal abuse with no real practical benefit.

It is this very type of mentality that has led to the majority of the world to hate us. I am part of this predominant culture in America but I realize that it is enough that we are ourselves and we need to stop trying to force our values on ohters except in the case of HUMAN rights.

And another thing, dogfighting was legal until 1986 in VA. Too many people act as if this dog loving at ude is some sort of longstanding self evident morality. Its not even remotely that.

I have a dog. I love my dog but I do not expect people to treat or think of their dogs the same as me.

It sucks for the dogs but a lot of things we do really really suck for those animals.

[smrattler]

"...Dogfighting is a sadistic "contest" in which two dogs—specifically bred, conditioned, and trained to fight—are placed in a pit (generally a small arena enclosed by plywood walls) to fight each other for the spectators' entertainment and gambling. Fights average nearly an hour in length and often last more than two hours. Dogfights end when one of the dogs will not or cannot continue. Their innate breeding won't let them quit even if they've lost eyes, disemboweled....you get the picture.

It sounded a lot like the first years of UFC!

[Kori Ellis]

Michael Vick is going to jail for racketeering, gambling illegally and probably tax evasion. I don't think its actually illegal to kill dogs. Most sensible and humane people with a heart wouldn't do it...

I think it is illegal in most states under animal cruelty/abuse laws.

[K-State Spur]

I don't think its actually illegal to kill dogs. Most sensible and humane people with a heart wouldn't do it...

You think wrong. Although the actual penalties for people who do are far far too lax.

Nevermind just the animal lover's angle - cruelty to dogs is a tell-tale sign of psychopathic behavior, and is often a stepping stone for future murderers.

[HJNTX]

I hope Vick never plays in the NFL again ..

[SequSpur]

When it comes to pitbulls, I'd rather see them killing each other than killing people.

Dogfighting has been around for years and now it's all Vick's fault... Give me a got damn break already.

[HJNTX]

When it comes to pitbulls, I'd rather see them killing each other than killing people.

Dogfighting has been around for years and now it's all Vick's fault... Give me a got damn break already.

It's against the law and just because it's "been around for years," doesn't make it right ..What he has done is barbaric..

[SequSpur]

barbaric? what about people who slaughter cows, chickens, fish, etc.? What about people who fight in the UFC?

some of you are haters and live your lives by the media. that.

Why should he be banned from Football because he had some dogfights? WTF?

Drinking the haterade again... You know, if you ding dongs would turn off CNN and Geraldo, you might actually find the world yourselves.

[ratm1221]

barbaric? what about people who slaughter cows, chickens, fish, etc.? What about people who fight in the UFC?

some of you are haters and live your lives by the media. that.

Why should he be banned from Football because he had some dogfights? WTF?

Drinking the haterade again... You know, if you ding dongs would turn off CNN and Geraldo, you might actually find the world yourselves.

UFC fighters are there by their own choice. Bad analogy. These dogs don't have a choice. Cows, chickens, fish, etc. are killed to be eaten. I don't know all the details but I don't think they were eating the dogs. And as far as the hunting argument, I don't hunt but I have never seen a deer running around the forest that looked like this...

[ratm1221]

Also, Michael Vick is a professional athlete and is under a microscope in the public eye. He should have known better. And don't act like this is Michael Vick's first up.

[T Park]

You know sequ, we joke around and stuff, but if your truely serious about your views on dogfighting?

I've lost serious respect for you.

[T Park]

Fact is that Marbury has a point

No he has no point.

Agreeing with Marbury, is about as stupid as someone defending dog fighting.


Adios mouth breather.

[SequSpur]

Injured Deer.



The dogs used in dogfights aren't your household kick dogs such as poodles, chihuahuas, and pomeranians...

COME ON! These dogs were killers and born into this world to kill....

Free Vick! Free Vick!

[SequSpur]

You know sequ, we joke around and stuff, but if your truely serious about your views on dogfighting?

I've lost serious respect for you.

Dude, I have two dogs, but I ain't going to get my panties in a wad because somebody was breeding Pitbulls to kill one another...

Again, it's better for them to do this than to attack children in the streets.

In some countries, Dogs are a cuisine. WTF? Should we ban them and drop a bomb on them?

This Vick is a waste of time.. He isn't the one who invented it or is running the show.... COME ON!!!!

Quit being wusses and letting CNN dictate your lifes. Look in the ing mirror, open your eyes... grab your nuts....

I know he broke the law and he should get punished.. but ing banned from getting a job in his field because of it??? WTF?

Kobe can rape a white girl and be glorified. Vick kills a ing dog or two or six and he should be banned for life???? in Luda.

[T Park]

Im seriously sickened by your view Sequ.

Don't say Hi to me at the next GTG.

Im dead serious.

[K-State Spur]

Injured Deer.



The dogs used in dogfights aren't your household kick dogs such as poodles, chihuahuas, and pomeranians...

COME ON! These dogs were killers and born into this world to kill....

Free Vick! Free Vick!

Pit Bulls weren't originally killers. It's because people breed & train them for dogfighting that many have become a danger to society. If we continue to turn a blind eye to dogfighting, that threat will only continue.

[RC's Boss]

It's dogs people! Why don't you mofos get in an uproar about healthcare for the elderly. Go protest this pathetic war and get the troops back home w/ their families. I have a dog. If you come to MY house and kill my dog, that burning sensation in your temple would be a round from one of my pistols. My neighbor has 9 FREAKING dogs in his backyard. I pray for the day I wake up to find them ALL hanging from the oak tree in his front yard! All of you calling guys insane, barbaric, stupid, etc., are a bunch of MEDIA S! Shut the up will you w/ the self-righteous bull . I've seen plenty of photos from GTGs on this forum w/ PLENTY of drunkeness. I know all you S.O.B.'s didn't catch a ing cab home! Therefore, you broke the law and should be arrested, have a DUI on your record, and get your license suspened for a year. "He broke the law, so he should pay for his crimes" SHUT THE UP w/ the bull . Call me what you want, but I run over at LEAST 3-4 dogs or cats per month. If they run out in front of me, I don't swerve at all... They are roadkill.

[RC's Boss]

Pit Bulls weren't originally killers. It's because people breed & train them for dogfighting that many have become a danger to society. If we continue to turn a blind eye to dogfighting, that threat will only continue.

What threat????? Are pit bulls about to run wild throughout America's cities?????????? Are they going to knock on your door and jump out from the bushes demanding you give up the cash

[Holt's Cat]

We care more about dead pitbulls than unborn babies. Anyways, there's no difference in bagging some bucks or capping a pit bull. Of course, white people hunt, I guess. Who are those negroes to think they can kill animals?

[RC's Boss]

Im seriously sickened by your view Sequ.

Don't say Hi to me at the next GTG.

Im dead serious.

What's sickening is not speaking to a fellow human b/c his opinions differ from yours.... Oh I forgot, he's a human not a dog.

[K-State Spur]

What threat????? Are pit bulls about to run wild throughout America's cities??????????

How many inner cities have you been around?

You can find packs of feral or stray dogs running around most U.S. cities if you hit the right area. It's even more common in many smaller communities.

About once a month, you'll see a story about a pit bull attack. Not that common when you take into account the large population of the breed, but still more common than most other breeds.

[SequSpur]

yeah.. you're sickened by my opinion. I'm not a dogfighter... in the sum of all thing bad, is dogfighting really that bad? I mean WTF?

These dogs are mean. they kill, they destroy... On a list of ten things that are bad in this world, dogfighting doesn't even break honorable mention unless Vick does it...

My point is yeah dogfighting is bad but really Who gives a ?

[SequSpur]

How many inner cities have you been around?

You can find packs of feral or stray dogs running around most U.S. cities if you hit the right area. It's even more common in many smaller communities.

About once a month, you'll see a story about a pit bull attack. Not that common when you take into account the large population of the breed, but still more common than most other breeds.

pit bulls should be shot.