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    I think Delahoya Mayweather provided a huge headstart. Also, even according to your own link to 2006 numbers, live ticket sales are higher in boxing. 10 years from now you'll still be harping on the good ol 2006. That's an opinion supported by a lot of facts that I have posted. Again, Delahoya mayweather did 2.2, barrera marquez did 450k, cotto judah did 300k, plus all the fights you have till the end of the year. I don't think it's going to be close with those facts to support me.
    So live ticket sales are the barometer now?

    and like I said...we don't know anything because UFC revenues won't be out til the end of '07.

    Good ole 2006...you're probably right...

    neither man took risk. boring...Mayweatheresque.
    Didn't take risk? WTF? Explain that please...

    Maybe you'd prefer that they just "stand and trade" until one gets KO'd...THAT is how MMA should be, right? None of that gay ground humping stuff.

    that's some scary stuff that your obsesssed with me that much, but again you proved my genius again. Last April MMA was more popular. I predicted 2006 success!!!! Get some help Leonard.
    If doing a quick search = obsessed, then I'm guilty. I knew you said it and it took 2 min's to find...

    You predicted 2006's success? I guess I missed that...

    I'm glad I can continue to prove your genius to the world...

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    and why are you ripping on Mayweather for being boring? You had high hopes for Oscar vs Floyd...

    This will be a classic with Oscar getting knocked down once or twice. However, I predict he knocks Floyd down too and it goes down to the wire with Oscar eventually knocking Floyd out.
    The $2.2M from that boxing match will probably make the "UFC vs Boxing" numbers close this year though. It's just a shame that so many wasted their money on that one match...

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    you're starting to bore me and it should be obvious to everyone that you're green with envy. Plus, I don't have time to make you cry and put me on ignore.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tpPVsU7xhE

    The last round. The punch at 3:45 is brutal!

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    you're starting to bore me and it should be obvious to everyone that you're green with envy
    of course...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tpPVsU7xhE

    The last round. The punch at 3:45 is brutal!

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    That was by far one of the best boxing matches ive ever seen. im glad it ended in KO cus those judges are wack. i wish all boxing fights could be that good...

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    Anybody have the video of the fight so i can put it on my webpage?

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    I just listened to my podcast and I liked what a caller said on the beatdown. He said something along the line of how hes a hardcore boxing fan and this was one of the best fights hes ever seen but once he saw the judges scoring he remembered why he stopped watching boxing. he also said fights like these happen every 5-10 years in boxing and over all mma is more exciting. but to 2centsworth's credit he sounded like a young white blood thirsty male.

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    Pavlik has finished over 90% of his 32 fights by KO or TKO. It's even more incredible when you consider that his only 3 fights that went the distance were in 6 and 8 round matches.

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    New champ Pavlik leaves check behind at hotel

    By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports
    October 2, 2007





    New middleweight boxing champion Kelly Pavlik did everything he expected to do last week in Atlantic City, N.J.

    He knocked out Jermain Taylor to win the WBC and WBO les. He charmed the national media with his easy-going nature. And he made himself must-see television by putting on one of the best fights of the year.

    "Pretty much everything went the way we planned it," Pavlik said Tuesday after a golf outing in his hometown of Youngstown, Ohio, where he was mobbed as if he were a rock star.

    All of it went the way he planned, except for one fairly significant detail: Pavlik and his father, Mike Pavlik Sr., left Atlantic City without their paychecks.

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    Pavlik earned a gross purse of $1.05 million Saturday. After the fight, the New Jersey Athletic Board of Control presented Pavlik with a check for $666,750, which represented his share of the earnings after his managers, trainers and all fees were paid.

    Pavlik's father, who along with Cameron Dunkin serves as his co-manager, received $105,000 for his services.

    As the co-manager, the elder Pavlik took his check and his son's on Saturday night after the le-winning effort over Taylor.

    The Pavliks had checked out of the Bally's Hotel in Atlantic City on Sunday morning and were halfway to Philadelphia for their flight to Pittsburgh when Mike Pavlik was suddenly stricken.

    "It's about an hour from Atlantic City to Philadelphia and we were literally halfway there when out of nowhere, it just hit me," Mike Pavlik said. "My heart stopped and I just knew I had made a big mistake."

    That mistake was leaving checks totally more than three-quarters of a million dollars on a countertop leaning against the coffee pot in their hotel room. In his excitement to get home, Mike Pavlik forgot to pick up the checks.

    "I think I gave that maid probably the best tip she ever got," he said, forcing a laugh. The new champion took the news as he takes pretty much everything else: Calmly and without a lot of excitement.

    He rarely gets nervous or upset, even with some of boxing's hardest punchers coming after him, and he didn't seem particularly bothered that the largest payday of his seven-year pro career had been misplaced.

    "A check that big, it was going to be pretty difficult for someone to be able to cash it," he said. "I figured that somehow or other, we'd manage to either get it back or get a new one. My Dad might have been a little worried, but I wasn't too upset."

    Dunkin reached Top Rank publicist Lee Samuels, who was on a private jet flying to Las Vegas along with Top Rank chairman Bob Arum and president Todd duBoef, via cellular telephone. When Samuels explained the problem, Arum agreed to stop payment on the check and issue another, though it wasn't entirely a new situation to the 75-year-old Hall of Fame promoter.

    "I have never had a guy leave it in the room before, so Kelly wins a prize for that, but I've had guys lose them," Arum said. "Julio Cesar Chavez used to go out and party after fights and I can remember a lot of times he'd call me and tell me he couldn't find his check. But at least Kelly got the money he deserved."

    The lost check was only part of Pavlik's adventure on his way home. Once the SUV Pavlik was riding in hit the Ohio border, he was met by a phalanx of police cars and fire trucks that gave him an official escort home to Youngstown.

    Pavlik's SUV dropped into the middle of that sea of what he estimated were 30 police cars and fire trucks and made a triumphant return home.

    "The support I get from the people here has always been great," Kelly Pavlik said. "But this was pretty incredible. It was nice to have those guys there for me and it made the win a little bit more special."

    Mike Pavlik would like to tell people that the police were there to help protect him as he carried the large check home.

    But he knows he's going to get a bad time from members of Team Pavlik for a long time to come.

    "This isn't the last time this is going to come up, I'm pretty certain," Mike Pavlik said.

    "We went there like it was just another fight. We did our thing the way we always do, but this one turned out to be a little more memorable in more ways than one."

    More: Iole: Pavlik dethrones Taylor.


    Kevin Iole covers boxing and mixed martial arts for Yahoo! Sports. Send Kevin a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.

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    I just listened to my podcast and I liked what a caller said on the beatdown. He said something along the line of how hes a hardcore boxing fan and this was one of the best fights hes ever seen but once he saw the judges scoring he remembered why he stopped watching boxing. he also said fights like these happen every 5-10 years in boxing and over all mma is more exciting. but to 2centsworth's credit he sounded like a young white blood thirsty male.
    Pavlik vs. Taylor will go down as one of the legendary fights. Top 20 in my book.

    To say good fights happen every 5-10 years is more MMA fan hysteria. This year alone there have been some really good fights. Pavlik vs Meranda was a really good fight and Cotto vs. Judah was excellent.

    The rest of this year is going to be sweet.



    btw, if you're interested in seeing more of what you saw this weekend keep an eye on boxing for the rest of the year.
    Last edited by 2centsworth; 10-03-2007 at 12:02 PM.

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    Pavlik has finished over 90% of his 32 fights by KO or TKO. It's even more incredible when you consider that his only 3 fights that went the distance were in 6 and 8 round matches.

    Dude has heavy hands...

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    I thought so...it's not every day that Dana gets on an MMA forum and argues with posters about fighter pay, boxing, etc and reveals who he bet on in a big boxing match...

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    Great fight. The last two to three years have produced some very memorable matches. The less they do PPV the better.

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