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    Yea clutter free is what i hear a lot. We have taken a lot of things and stored them away already.


    I think one really good thing we have going for us is 4 bedrooms and relatively cheap. 148k is a great starter house price, and 4 bedrooms is great for those cusp income families who need the room for their kids.

    Ive never really realized this, but so many houses only have 3 bedrooms...

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    I guess it just depends on your situation. I had a buyer for my house so never even had to list it, but we had to move relatively quickly ... so I needed a house that was empty. And the only ones we could find that we liked that were empty or could be empty in 30-45 days either sold before we could offer or we found something wrong with the house. Which is another reason we bought a brand new one.
    Yeah, but I think your situation was unique.

    Everyone I've know that sold their house ended up renting back to the buyer because the house sold faster than they thought and weren't ready to move. My friend listed her house in March and had to rent back until the end of May when school was out.

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    Yeah, but I think your situation was unique.

    Everyone I've know that sold their house ended up renting back to the buyer because the house sold faster than they thought and weren't ready to move. My friend listed her house in March and had to rent back until the end of May when school was out.

    That'd be fantastic if that could happen.

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    Yeah, but I think your situation was unique.

    Everyone I've know that sold their house ended up renting back to the buyer because the house sold faster than they thought and weren't ready to move. My friend listed her house in March and had to rent back until the end of May when school was out.
    Which is one of those things that makes purchasing an occupied home potentially unattractive. Total pain in the ass for all involved 99% of the time. Buyers don't want to do it, agents don't want to organize it.

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    Certainly the first/most important step.

    And I'm not at all suggesting that it's impossible to sell a house that's occupied. It's not. But a house that's empty (vacant) and move-in ready has a lot of appeal over one that isn't.

    And if a prospective buyer has a choice between two similar houses, one occupied and one vacant, there's not a doubt in my mind that the vacant one will move to the top of the list. They're easier to show, more comfortable to view and don't come with the potential closing/moving date slow downs.
    I don't disagree, I just think there are few older homes that are empty. You can probably find them more in CA since people have to move out because they got in way over their head

    I think what it comes down to is that people have a hard time visualizing (like my example with paint colors). They just can't look at a house and think, "I can change that ".

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    There is a house down the street from me, same floorplan, that has been on the market 79 days and hasnt sold. it is unoccupied, but according to our realator, it is in very bad shape...as in, very un taken care of...

    i hope that is why it hasnt sold...that worries me a bit.

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    Which is one of those things that makes purchasing an occupied home potentially unattractive. Total pain in the ass for all involved 99% of the time. Buyers don't want to do it, agents don't want to organize it.
    Well, from what I've seen here, it's pretty much the norm. Especially, with the military families.

    Anyway. Good luck, Soul Patch, and congrats on the baby!

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    I think what it comes down to is that people have a hard time visualizing (like my example with paint colors). They just can't look at a house and think, "I can change that ".
    That's an absolute fact. Home buyers are nitpicky morons, for the most part. Even reasonably intelligent people, for whatever reason, look at a blue wall in a prospective property and forget that it is possible for it to no longer be blue.

    Which is why my house, which is currently for sale, is vacant, clean, empty and painted in neutral colors.

    And, given that it's a very rare type of home -- large one bedroom early 20's craftsman bungalow with unpainted woodwork and built-ins -- and will only fit the needs of specific people, I'm expecting it will probably be on the market for several months.

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    There is a house down the street from me, same floorplan, that has been on the market 79 days and hasnt sold. it is unoccupied, but according to our realator, it is in very bad shape...as in, very un taken care of...

    i hope that is why it hasnt sold...that worries me a bit.

    There's two houses in my hood that have been for sale for over a year. Granted, they're on Tezel, which is a drawback. There was a murder a few years ago (it was always a rental). Some 20somethings lived there, had a party, things got out of hand. The other one had an outrageous listing price and has since dropped at least 40k. And from the pictures I've seen of the inside, they needed to declutter badly. And I'm sure having foil in one of the windows wasn't helping. Buy a cheap curtain!

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    So i just put my house on the market to sell this week. My wife is pregnant, and we just need a bit more room.

    House is 1572 Sqft, 4 bedroom 2 bath, 2 car garage...asking 148k.


    Has anyone recently sold a house? How long did it take? Any good tips on keeping it ready for show? Thats going to be the hardest part is keeping it constantly spotless for showing. We have pets, so pet hair is a constant battle...

    My brother in law is selling us their house (they want to move too) it is 2400 sqft, 2 story, 3 bedroom 2 bath...huge back yard, sprinkler systems, water softner...really nice place, and only asking 167k if they sell to us privately. It markets for 185k, so its a fairly nice deal.

    anyway...just wondering what you guys' experiences have been.
    Send them to Mike Vick's.

    Seriously, think about renting an apt. while it's on the market. Or else keep that clean.

    We had to get rid of our cat because no one wanted to see that ing litter box laying around.

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    That's an absolute fact. Home buyers are nitpicky morons, for the most part. Even reasonably intelligent people, for whatever reason, look at a blue wall in a prospective property and forget that it is possible for it to no longer be blue.

    Which is why my house, which is currently for sale, is vacant, clean, empty and painted in neutral colors.

    And, given that it's a very rare type of home -- large one bedroom early 20's craftsman bungalow with unpainted woodwork and built-ins -- and will only fit the needs of specific people, I'm expecting it will probably be on the market for several months.
    I think the craftsman houses are awesome! Does it have a lot of the original stuff in it? I hate when flipping shows totally modernize these types of houses. I think it takes away from the house's character.

    Good luck!

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    I would much rather see an empty house but that is probably just me. I think you can actually see what the house really looks like better- for example the quality of the carpet, the wall paint, the baseboards... when the house is completely empty. I like to visualize so I like the blank canvas. Plus, I think almost everyone's house is too cluttered and a lot of people have not so great taste, so I won't like what I see no matter how cleaned up the seller thinks it is. Also, an empty house has usually been made much more ready for move in and so you know these things have already been done that other people will promise to do after they get out.

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    I wish i could get 400k or whatever my house would sell for in Socal.

    i know when we were calling about our insurance the lady on the phone was just insanely amazed that we have close to 1600 sqft for so cheap...lol..

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    I would never buy a house that has a pet living in it when I looked at it. Or that has a smoker living there-- and yes, I will be able to smell both no matter what you do.

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    I have a friend that lives in St. Petersburg. Her house is a smaller, older home (I think built in the 50s), and is very well taken care of. I think they are asking $350k for it, which is the norm there. The market down there is terrible. The listed it back in January and she's had maybe 5 people look at it.

    Funt and I just demonstrated how one can disagree respectfully without resorting to name calling. It's quite refreshing!

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    I would never buy a house that has a pet living in it when I looked at it. Or that has a smoker living there-- and yes, I will be able to smell both no matter what you do.

    Id venture to guess you have just cut down your target market by about 85%

    i have 2 dogs and 1 cat, all of which are very sanitary.

    The only thing we have to constantly maintain is pet hair, but nothing a dyson cant fix.

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    I think the craftsman houses are awesome! Does it have a lot of the original stuff in it? I hate when flipping shows totally modernize these types of houses. I think it takes away from the house's character.

    Good luck!
    It's almost completely untouched.

    There was lovely chartreuse shag carpeting when my mom bought it (my ex and I moved in when she got a job out of state, and I was added to the le later) that had been there since the 60's, so the wood floors were in great shape. And a couple of the light fixtures were replaced, also in the 60's, are don't necessarily fit the character of the house, but are pretty ing cool.

    Other than that, the only modifications were done out of necessity, by me, and keeping in the style of the home.

    I love that house. And a big part of me would like to hold onto it, but... just don't see myself returning to the area, and have been in property management long enough to know that I DON'T want to have a tenant it up. That would break my heart.

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    I wish i could get 400k or whatever my house would sell for in Socal.

    i know when we were calling about our insurance the lady on the phone was just insanely amazed that we have close to 1600 sqft for so cheap...lol..
    The market here in California is so inflated it's ridiculous.

    My one bedroom is currently listed for more than your four bedroom. It's right at the top of the market though and, I think, too high. I'd have listed it lower for a quick sale, but I'm not the only owner.

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    My parents are selling their home on five acres just outside of Natalia. They were selling it as is last summer and were asking $205000. They got a lot of lookers, but not takers and only like two offers. They accepted one, but the couple who made that offer had to sell their house and they never did.

    I pulled it off the market for them and remodeled it. Put new flooring, paint inside and out. New lighting fixtures and countertops. It was valued around $240k. They are selling it for $235K. We've had a lot of looks, but no offers. However, its harder to sell because of the location. Its 30 minutes South of South San Antonio. The good thing is that out there isn't much compe ion. There are like only two other houses in their area on the market and they aren't similiar to my parents home. Its been on the market for like three months.

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    It's almost completely untouched.

    There was lovely chartreuse shag carpeting when my mom bought it (my ex and I moved in when she got a job out of state, and I was added to the le later) that had been there since the 60's, so the wood floors were in great shape. And a couple of the light fixtures were replaced, also in the 60's, are don't necessarily fit the character of the house, but are pretty ing cool.

    Other than that, the only modifications were done out of necessity, by me, and keeping in the style of the home.

    I love that house. And a big part of me would like to hold onto it, but... just don't see myself returning to the area, and have been in property management long enough to know that I DON'T want to have a tenant it up. That would break my heart.
    Yeah, my dad had a rental house once. Dude would fix his motorcycle in the living room.

    I know some things have to be upgraded, but I hate when people totally gut it and make it look like a new house you would see in today's market. Takes a way all the charm.

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    Funt and I just demonstrated how one can disagree respectfully without resorting to name calling. It's quite refreshing!
    Indeed.

    It actually felt kind of weird.

    Maybe you should call me a , or a man, or a man . Ya know, just to get things back to an even keel.

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    lol...i like you Funt... the haters imho

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    I know some things have to be upgraded, but I hate when people totally gut it and make it look like a new house you would see in today's market. Takes a way all the charm.
    When I first started working in the office, my aunt and I would go around and look at all the cute houses that were for sale just for fun. Eventually we stopped because the number of charming houses that had been completely ed up just got too depressing.

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    lol...i like you Funt... the haters imho
    Yeah, I've never had a problem with him.

    I keed!

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    The guy who bought my house flipped it, and I cry everytime I go by there. He did everything I had planned on doing to the house and then some, but it still blends well with the other houses on the street. The inside is no longer 50's looking, which actually is a good thing. I don't know how many times I wanted to take a sledgehammer to that Pepto Bismal pink tile in the front bathroom that was so popular back then, apparently.

    I also cry when I see how much he has it listed for.

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