Andre Kirilinko to suns?

[Kori Ellis]

Well they have been trying to deal Marion on and off for a while. Outside of luxury tax issues, if you read Jack McCallum's "7 Seconds or Less", you will understand what a whining baby he is. The organization is probably tired of always having to coddle him and worry about his feelings.

[MajorMike]

Suns Talked Marion Trade With Jazz
September 11, 2007 - 12:24 pm
Arizona Republic -
The Phoenix Suns and Utah Jazz tossed around the idea of a trade sending Shawn Marion to Utah for Andrei Kirilenko last month but they did not move pass the stage of talks and the discussion of swapping versatile forwards has been tabled for weeks, the Arizona Republic is reporting.

Marion, 29, frequently comes up in summer trade rumors and talks because of the Suns' payroll situation, which has them over the luxury tax threshold with contracts that will pay its big three - Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire and Marion - $41.6 million for the coming season and $45.1 million in 2008-09. Marion is the team's highest paid player at a salary of $16,440,000 this season and $17,810,000 in 2008-09, the final year of his contract.

Marion is eligible for a contract extension this summer but the chances of that appear doubtful. Marion could opt out of his contract after the coming season.

Taking on Kirilenko, who is coming off his career's worst season, would only delay the Suns' financial peril. Kirilenko, 26, will be paid $63.1 million over the next four seasons. He was an All-Star in 2004 but struggled last season and complained of his reduced role to the point of crying in an interview during the playoffs.

Like Marion, Kirilenko has been among the league's leaders in blocks and steals over his career. At 6 feet 9, the Russian runs the floor well but also has a suspect perimeter shot. In his worst season last year, Kirilenko started all 70 games he played, hit 21 percent of his three-point shots and averaged 8.3 points and 4.7 rebounds amid the Jazz's rise to division champion. His contract runs through 2010-11, when Stoudemire's contract closes with a $17.9 million salary and Nash could be starting a new contract.

In a third consecutive All-Star season, Marion averaged 17.8 points and 9.8 rebounds - a slight drop in production from previous seasons.

[ducks]

are suns trying to get international players thinking that will help them beat the spurs?

[FromWayDowntown]

Kori's right about Marion's disposition and the way that the Suns' organization deals with it. (and Seven Seconds or Less should be required reading for NBA fans, I think). Still, with all of the rumors that have floated this summer about Marion, his insecurities can only grow, one would think. I would imagine the Suns are reaching a point of HAVING to deal Marion because they'll lose him entirely if he believes he's not wanted in Phoenix, and trade rumors can have a nasty way of making a player feel that he's unwanted.

[saporvida]

is that for real ? I didn't know that. Jeez.

He should have just done this

not this

yeah it's for real... I'm pretty sure it was during round1 vs the rocket(te)s. his role was diminished because he wasn't producing and he kept begging to stay in and that change was on the horizon but he's a little and es like to cry.

[Mark in Austin]

I think Marion is overrated when it comes down to playing playoff-style, championship ball. The Spurs expose him every offseason they play the Suns - he's a player with limited go-to moves who is most effective shooting the 3 on the break or playing off the garbage rebound. Put a man on him that plays solid defense though, and he becomes a non-factor. (Remember what Marion did to the Spurs in the 2005 wcf's? Nobody else does either thanks to Bruce Bowen. Even this year with Bowen on Nash quite a bit Marion wasn't very effective.)

From a Spurs perspective, if Kirilenko recaptures some of his form from a couple years ago, he could contribute to a team effort and team defensive matchups that I think will make the Suns a harder out than they were with Marion.

Of course, after the postseason Kirilenko had this year he might just be damaged goods; but I think the Suns with AK-47 have more upside and can gel into a better team than they can with Marion.

This will be interesting to see how it develops....

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Great move for the Suns. But by trading away KT, the best defender they had for Duncan, they ed themselves so much that they lost every chance of beating us. AK 47 ain't enough to beat us, but he's an improvement over Marion, who has always performed consistently bad against us in the playoffs.

Their front office must be looking at other bigs, unless, of course, their plan is to themselves - which they're used to anyway.

[ATRAIN]

come on da suns fan what kind of stupid thing are you going to say about this?

[picnroll]

Having a guy that cries seems to be a good fit for the Suns.

[da_suns_fan__]

come on da suns fan what kind of stupid thing are you going to say about this?

I would say that I would be against trading Shawn Marion of AK47.

And I would say that two major news outlets have already reported this deal has no legs:

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/97059

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...nline0911.html

I would also say I enjoy witnessing this obsession of everything "Suns" continue.

Hey....don't fight it Spurs fans. People just like talking about the Suns. You all are no exception.

[ChumpDumper]

Says the sunfan who can't stay off the Spurs message board.

[da_suns_fan__]

Says the sunfan who can't stay off the Spurs message board.

In a Suns thread on the "Spurs" page.

[ChumpDumper]

In a Suns thread on the "Spurs" page.

Says the sunfan on the Spurs message board.

[da_suns_fan__]

Says the sunfan on the Spurs message board.

You already said that, dumbass.

And it wasn't a Suns fan who started this thread!!!

The Obsession continues.

[Beno Udrih]

In a Suns thread on the "Spurs" page.

So did you see your teams "exciting" Monday night loss last night?

[sprrs]

I would also say I enjoy witnessing this obsession of everything "Suns" continue.

Hey....don't fight it Spurs fans. People just like talking about the Suns. You all are no exception.

It's more out of pity than love.

[ChumpDumper]

You already said that, dumbass.

And it wasn't a Suns fan who started this thread!!!

The Obsession continues.

Says the sunfan on the Spurs message board.

[da_suns_fan__]

So did you see your teams "exciting" Monday night loss last night?

Eh....yeah. It was a really close game and came down to the last 20 seconds. Leinhart played crappy but Edge played great. Did you not enjoy it?

I also enjoyed the Diamondbacks' pinch hit home run last night in the ninth.

What did you guys watch? Rodeo in town again?

[da_suns_fan__]

Says the sunfan on the Spurs message board.

I think we all saw THAT coming.

[timvp]

@ the Suns if they do this trade.

Please trade Marion for Kirilenko.

Please?

[Beno Udrih]

Eh....yeah. It was a really close game and came down to the last 20 seconds. Leinhart played crappy but Edge played great. Did you not enjoy it?

I also enjoyed the Diamondbacks' pinch hit home run last night in the ninth.

What did you guys watch? Rodeo in town again?

It's funny seeing you trying to justify losing.

[ChumpDumper]

I think we all saw THAT coming.

Your obsession continues....

[da_suns_fan__]

It's funny seeing you trying to justify losing.

I don't have to justify losing....I don't play for the Cardinals. I never even said they would win a single game.

I said we have bragging rights for all of the great sporting events we get throughout the course of the season.

I'll wave to you from my seat at the Cardinals home opener on Sunday. That is, if youre not riding bulls or doing whatever it is that you guys do.

[Booharv]

A straight up trade for the two worst contracts in the NBA! I'd say the Jazz come out ahead on the deal. I think Marion can do everything for them that AK did, but I don't know if AK can bring Marion's numbers to the Suns.

EDIT: I guess that should read "two of the worst contracts" since Rashard Lewis is not involved in this trade.

Marion doesn't have one of the worst contracts in the NBA. He's overpaid, but at least he's productive. There's probably 50 guys with worse contracts in the league.

[Beno Udrih]

I don't have to justify losing....I don't play for the Cardinals. I never even said they would win a single game.

I said we have bragging rights for all of the great sporting events we get throughout the course of the season.

I'll wave to you from my seat at the Cardinals home opener on Sunday. That is, if youre not riding bulls or doing whatever it is that you guys do.

And I said bragging about the cards and d backs is nothing to write home about. Yet here you are...