Shawn Marion is a whiny

[Shred]

It boggles the mind.
Whining like he does is a cancer in the locker room, never mind on the court.

I can't begin to understand what he wants. Top billing? Ego can be a dangerous thing.

Oh...and cue the Suns fans saying we can't get enough of their team because another Suns thread is posted!

You all are like clockwork.

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[Shred]

Last thing I want to see the Suns blow up this soon. I want it to be a 3 team race again between the Spurs, Mavs, and Suns. Trading Marion for AK is ing stupid. That is a horrible deal on the Suns end. Plus I really want to play a healthy Suns team to see if we can actually eliminate them. I am tired of speculating on that.

Work on getting past the 8-seed first. Horse, then cart. Hatch the eggs, then count.

[Shred]

Marion is a tragically flawed player. No matter how much he wants to believe he's capable of creating his own offense consistantly, he's simply not able. He hasn't the handle, nor the jumper form that will enable a quick, accurate release off the dribble. He is adequate in every offensive skill area, and makes his money off his athleticism, rebounding and defense. No amount of set plays run for him will change his at ude, either, I suspect. He's got a complex where if anything can be a slight, it is a slight.

He probably blames the Phoenix PR department for his jersey sales being #3 behind Nash and Amare.

I love Marion's game. I do wish he was a bit more complete an offensive player, one capable of periodically generating offense, but if he hasn't developed by now then it's already too late.

I just needs to shut up, suck it up, get back in shape, on the court and work his ass off. No amount of pouting is going to endear him to team's with money. What he fails to see is every year of whining is probably another team with money who's lost interest. Phoenix is his perfect situation. One might ask, "If he can't stand perfection, then how the will he stand us?"

You're right about his game, but what we're reading about his at ude (and why we're reading about it now as opposed to in recent years when they've tried to trade him) is more a function of Suns management preparing the fan base for the impending blowup of the roster and slide out of contention....Everyone will blame Shawn for the team's breakup and downfall, instead of the team's own unwillingness to re-sign Kurt Thomas and build up through the draft over the past 4-5 years.

[Findog]

Work on getting past the 8-seed first. Horse, then cart. Hatch the eggs, then count.

Work on beating San Antonio, then making a Finals. Walk, then run. Congratulations on beating Kobe Bryant and 10 D-Leaguers last year, and making it one round further than we did. Very impressive.

[monosylab1k]

Work on beating San Antonio, then making a Finals. Walk, then run. Congratulations on beating Kobe Bryant and 10 D-Leaguers last year, and making it one round further than we did. Very impressive.

I love idiot Suns fans who think one playoff stumble means we have to start from scratch. This Mavs team has still accomplished much more than the Suns, and is still much closer to a championship.

Losing in 6 to Golden State is more impressive than allowing that hole of a Lakers team to take you 7. Last year's Florida Gators would have beaten that Lakers team in 6 or less.

[monosylab1k]

You all are like clockwork.

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irony?

[Findog]

I love idiot Suns fans who think one playoff stumble means we have to start from scratch.

Haven't you heard? The Mavs are psychologically broken and need to be dismantled. Spurs and Suns fans would love for Cuban to go into that briar patch.

[JamStone]

Losing in 6 to Golden State is more impressive than allowing that hole of a Lakers team to take you 7. Last year's Florida Gators would have beaten that Lakers team in 6 or less.

Losing is more impressive than winning?

[Findog]

Losing is more impressive than winning?

Losing to a good team versus barely beating a crap team. Yeah, I'd say so.

[JamStone]

Sorry, losing in the first round to an 8 seed when your team had the best record in the league is NEVER impressive.

[Findog]

Sorry, losing in the first round to an 8 seed when your team had the best record in the league is NEVER impressive.

Did I or mono say it was impressive? Only point is that Suns have no reason to brag over beating a team. Golden State was much better than the Lakers.

[monosylab1k]

Sorry, losing in the first round to an 8 seed when your team had the best record in the league is NEVER impressive.

How about if I change "more impressive" to "less pathetic". Happy now?

Also, to Phoenix's credit, they were able to win the series they played against a one-man team.

[ShoogarBear]

Haven't you heard? The Mavs are psychologically broken and need to be dismantled. Spurs and Suns fans would love for Cuban to go into that briar patch.

I would settle for him just picking up Chris Webber.

[Findog]

I would settle for him just picking up Chris Webber.

Would you rather have him or KVH or Austin Croshere?

[ShoogarBear]

Would you rather have him or KVH or Austin Croshere?

All three inspire about the same level of playoff confidence.

[Findog]

All three inspire about the same level of playoff confidence.

Webber's a better player than both of them. He could've helped us against Golden State with his passing.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

I love Marion's game. Alot of hustle, does the dirty work, good defense, and versatility.

However, I hate how he whines, shrinks from contact, and wilts under pressure. I think he's as soft as cotton, and it's really starting to wear thin. His mental game really personifies everything that's wrong with Phoenix right now. That's why although it's a downgrade in talent, I wouldn't mind the AK for Marion trade, and I was ecstatic when earlier in the offseason there was rumors of him going to Detroit for 'Sheed.

[exstatic]

PHO should have dumped Marion's salary and kept Joe Johnson in 2005.

[Shred]

Work on beating San Antonio, then making a Finals. Walk, then run. Congratulations on beating Kobe Bryant and 10 D-Leaguers last year, and making it one round further than we did. Very impressive.

Excuse me, dumbass, but my post explained why the Suns won't be making any bid for the WC le (provided they don't out-bid the Spurs for favors from the refs this season). Mavs fans are the only ones around here guilty of spending money before it's been earned.

[Shred]

I love idiot Suns fans who think one playoff stumble means we have to start from scratch. This Mavs team has still accomplished much more than the Suns, and is still much closer to a championship.

Losing in 6 to Golden State is more impressive than allowing that hole of a Lakers team to take you 7. Last year's Florida Gators would have beaten that Lakers team in 6 or less.

Worst. MVP. Evar.

[Trainwreck2100]

Webber's a better player than both of them. He could've helped us against Golden State with his passing.

They needed a low post presence for that series

[K-State Spur]

You're right about his game, but what we're reading about his at ude (and why we're reading about it now as opposed to in recent years when they've tried to trade him) is more a function of Suns management preparing the fan base for the impending blowup of the roster and slide out of contention....Everyone will blame Shawn for the team's breakup and downfall, instead of the team's own unwillingness to re-sign Kurt Thomas and build up through the draft over the past 4-5 years.

What do you mean failing to re-sign Thomas? You had him under contract and moved him anyways.

[anakha]

That's why although it's a downgrade in talent, I wouldn't mind the AK for Marion trade

I love Marion's game. Alot of hustle, does the dirty work, good defense, and versatility.

However, I hate how he whines, shrinks from contact, and wilts under pressure. I think he's as soft as cotton, and it's really starting to wear thin.

Skills and how well either would fit on the team aside, wouldn't the knock on Marion mentally be the same as on Kirilenko?

AK47's proven himself to be a malcontent as well this past season, and if you are looking to rid yourself of someone who caves under pressure, he's not the guy you want.

[yourcheatinheart]

I love idiot Suns fans who think one playoff stumble means we have to start from scratch. This Mavs team has still accomplished much more than the Suns, and is still much closer to a championship.

Losing in 6 to Golden State is more impressive than allowing that hole of a Lakers team to take you 7. Last year's Florida Gators would have beaten that Lakers team in 6 or less.

[SpursIndonesia]

Well, with AK47, atleast it's a new start, a fresh air for both parties involved. Perhaps Nash can rub him the right way, and D'Antoni can baby sit him better than Sloan ? Who knows.

One thing for sure, if you can't be happy about your role in the team while having a PG of Nash caliber leading the way, then that particular player is simply HOPELESS for the team sake.