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Most of what comes out of Kerry's mouth is in poor taste.
Stupid American soldiers.
Do you really believe that if John Kerry had said "No, don't arrest him. He was just asking a question and I want to answer it," they still would have arrested this kid? I don't think they would have. I am not saying that Kerry was obligated to do that, but I think he had more control over the situation than you give him credit for. Plus, his comments about the kid, while the kid was being arrested were in poor taste.
Most of what comes out of Kerry's mouth is in poor taste.
Stupid American soldiers.
What was he being arrested for? Asking too many questions? We can't have our public representatives so troubled, apparently.
This is like a thread in bizzaro world. I agree with WC, johnsmith, and the rest of the posters that I normally disagree with. Meanwhile, the people that I thought shared similar ideals as me seem to be in complete agreement with what the police did to that kid (DR -- you're the exception), instead of being outraged. I don't get it.
It's comforting to know that you can get tasered for a non-violent crime here in the US of A. It's odd how the standards for the use of force are gradually eroded in this country. A taser is a weapon. It was introduced as a less destructive means to deal with criminals rather than shooting them up and hitting a bystander in the process. I don't see what this kid did as warranting being arrested, much less hit with a taser.
I think they are just in the habbit of disagreeing with people like me. Right or wrong!This is like a thread in bizzaro world. I agree with WC, johnsmith, and the rest of the posters that I normally disagree with. Meanwhile, the people that I thought shared similar ideals as me seem to be in complete agreement with what the police did to that kid, instead of being outraged. I don't get it.
Maybe I should tell them the sky is blue, and see how they respond?
how do you blame kerry for the actions of campus cops?
I don't. It could have been Bush, Clinton, or whoever. Doesn't matter. Being tasered for a non-violent act is ridiculous.
I don't blame him for it, but you and I both know that had he intervened, the cops would not have arrested that kid. Again, I am not saying that he was obligated to intervene, but he could have if he wanted to. Instead, he stood there making wisecracks while the kid was being arrested.
This is easy, sir. The kid was being disruptive at the forum of a Democratic politician. Therefore, the lefties are bound to applaud the police response, while the righties denounce it. Had it been Mitch McConnell speaking at UK when something like this happened, you would see the sentiments flip nearly quan atively.This is like a thread in bizzaro world. I agree with WC, johnsmith, and the rest of the posters that I normally disagree with. Meanwhile, the people that I thought shared similar ideals as me seem to be in complete agreement with what the police did to that kid (DR -- you're the exception), instead of being outraged. I don't get it.
Cheering for your own team is all that matters. The Cons ution is just some obsolete 18th-century do ent that has no real bearing on modern governance.
It could have been worse. At least Kerry didn't throw any medals at him.
it looked to me as though the situation became personal, between him and the cops. how many cops would stop their aggression because someone says "leave that poor boy alone"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag&NR=1 is a much better video.
I don't think the kid did much to be arrested. The kid came across as a moveon lib. The police overreacted and the taser is going to cost them lots of money.
The taser is just the modern version of a nightstick. It's funny, if you picture an unruly political dissenter on a university campus in a European country in the 1930's getting 'subdued' by six cops bearing nightsticks, that of course is totally different from an unruly political dissenter on a university campus in the USA in 2007 getting 'subdued' by six cops bearing tasers, because this is the USA and we're awesome.
I don't remember Kerry making that statement. I do remember him saying something along the lines that education is important so you don't get stuck in Iraq. The actual line was supposed to something like "so you don't get us stuck in Iraq," a swipe at the President. Kerry misspoke, plain and simple. With Kerry himself being a former American soldier, the allegation that he was calling American soldiers stupid makes no sense.
If that statement is coming from a Senator at a forum for that Senator and the incident was precipitated by a question to the Senator, I think most cops would have stopped their aggression. , the cops looked wide-eyed and uncertain as to what they should do to begin with.
the way this country is headed, I'm sure all of us will get arrested or tasered in the future for saying the wrong things.
Especially if people are applauding it while it happens or justifying it to each other after it happens.
i agree with that. but when you resist, the training kicks in. they're not Rhode scholars. they're trained to respond the way they did. i'm sure there has been crash courses since virginia tech.
what's encouraging is that left leaning posters started this thread and others have been critical of what happened.
I sort of agree with you about the police, but what Kerry should have done was tell the UF student "give me moment to respond". If the UF student continued then remove him. The way it went down should be a huge warning sign.
You should read David Gelernter's book Americanism: The Fourth Great Western Religion, in which he argues that the ideals of the United States are superior to, and abrogate, the tenets of Christianity.
The folks over at Power Line blog think it's awesome. So does the American Enterprise Ins ute. It's a neocon's wet dream.
Do you see some things starting to converge? Maybe your grandkids can end up like Polycarp!
Yes!Do you see some things starting to converge?
please elaborate.The folks over at Power Line blog think it's awesome. So does the American Enterprise Ins ute. It's a neocon's wet dream.
he's not the first politician to freeze during an urgent situation.
it wasn't an urgent situation, it was during a speech. These guys should be pros.
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