All Suns did in past 2 years was to win series against LA teams

[samikeyp]

Will this ever end?

Agreed.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

More importantly, if the Suns had Scola, how many championships would they have won by now?

[ShoogarBear]

You better tank and get a decent draft pick next year.

Yeah, Sarver needs the cash.

[Findog]

More importantly, if the Suns had Scola, how many championships would they have won by now?

If the Suns had Scola, they would retroactively be awarded every le in NBA history, even before Scola was born and the Suns were incorporated into the League. That's how good the er is.

[ShoogarBear]

If the Suns had Scola, they would have been so good that Cardinals would have won the Super Bowl by osmosis.

[JMarkJohns]

I don't think advancing to the Western Conference Finals with a "big man" rotation of Marion, Diaw, Tim Thomas is anything to sneer at. They had no real PF, let alone C.

They have certainly disappointed recently. This year was a very large flop, in my book, but to have your best low-post scorer and and only low-post defender out and still advance to game six of the Western Conference Finals is a success in my le-less book. I mean, take Duncan and Duncan alone off the Spurs for a playoff run and see how hard it is. Oh... That's right, you did! In 2000... how'd that turn out? Vs. a Kidd-less and Gugliotta-less Suns team as well.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

If the Suns had Scola, they would have been so good that Cardinals would have won the Super Bowl by osmosis.

No osmosis needed. Scola would walk on for them, then rush for 2 TD's, throw for 3 more, and grab 3 interceptions and half a dozen sacks in the big game.

Kurt Warner's wife would go on the radio the next day, publicly renounce Kurt as her husband, and proclaim her undying love for one Luis Scola. Matt Leinert would do the same.

[FromWayDowntown]

I do think it's interesting that, other than JMark, the Suns fans who've posted in this thread haven't addressed the original point made and have focused instead on bashing Spurs fans.

[hater]

to be fair, all Spurs did last 2 season is lose sadly to choker mavs in 2006 and collect the prize after the Mavs and Suns, the only 2 compe ive teams, had their respective psychological meltdowns in 2007.

[da_suns_fan__]

Remember that time when Suns fans thought that trading James Jones would get them a top 10 pick?

Remember when you cried and cried and cried and cried about the litany of Suns trade rumors on the general discussion board?

That was priceless.

[monosylab1k]

Remember when you cried and cried and cried and cried about the litany of Suns trade rumors on the general discussion board?

That was priceless.

no. i've never posted on a general discussion board. remember that time you owned yourself? no, not that time, the other time.

[da_suns_fan__]

no. i've never posted on a general discussion board. remember that time you owned yourself? no, not that time, the other time.

Remember when you had the Leonardo DiCaprio avatar and your signature was updated to chastize the one person who made fun of you for it...and then I came around and totally ripped on you so bad that you ditched it?

I bet you miss that avatar, huh?

[monosylab1k]

Remember when you had the Leonardo DiCaprio avatar and your signature was updated to chastize the one person who made fun of you for it...and then I came around and totally ripped on you so bad that you ditched it?

I bet you miss that avatar, huh?

what?

remember that time you revealed how obsessed you are with me, rehashing inane tales of things even I don't remember? this has just gotten creepy.

[da_suns_fan__]

what?

remember that time you revealed how obsessed you are with me, rehashing inane tales of things even I don't remember? this has just gotten creepy.

So embarrassed that youre playing dumb now?

Cmon Monosylab1k...we all remember the Leo avatar!!!

Tell us again what your favorite DiCaprio film is again. Or did you actually prefer his stint on "Growing Pains"?

[Findog]

what?

remember that time you revealed how obsessed you are with me, rehashing inane tales of things even I don't remember? this has just gotten creepy.

You better hope da_suns_fan doesn't have your IP address, mono. The more you own them, the more obsessed they get with "getting even." I'd take some precautions if I were you.

[da_suns_fan__]

You better hope da_suns_fan doesn't have your IP address, mono. The more you own them, the more obsessed they get with "getting even." I'd take some precautions if I were you.

Is that why you follow me from thread to thread?

Youre still trying to "get even"?

That makes sense.

[monosylab1k]

Is that why you follow me from thread to thread?

Youre still trying to "get even"?

That makes sense.

uh, you followed me in this thread. check it again dumbass. I didn't say to you. You voluntarily decided to respond to something not even related to you.

You're still trying to "get even"?

[Mister Sinister]

No osmosis needed. Scola would walk on for them, then rush for 2 TD's, throw for 3 more, and grab 3 interceptions and half a dozen sacks in the big game.

Kurt Warner's wife would go on the radio the next day, publicly renounce Kurt as her husband, and proclaim her undying love for one Luis Scola. Matt Leinert would do the same.

If the Suns had Scola, AIDS, cancer, world hunger, oil prices, and the conflict in Iraq would all be solved.

[da_suns_fan__]

uh, you followed me in this thread. check it again dumbass. I didn't say to you. You voluntarily decided to respond to something not even related to you.

You're still trying to "get even"?

Huh???????????????

Holy , I think I've just uncovered a single poster using two screen names!!!

FINDOG AND MONOSYLAB1K ARE THE SAME PERSON!!!!!

This actually makes a lot of sense.

[Mister Sinister]

Huh???????????????

Are you and FinDog the same person?!!!!

I think I've just uncovered a single poster using two screen names!!!

FINDOG AND MONOSYLAB1K ARE THE SAME PERSON!!!!!

This actually makes a lot of sense.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

All Suns did in past 2 post seaons was to win series against LA teams (twice Lakers and once Clippers) and nothing else. Suns fans and Spurs haters are still thinking that Suns would have won ring had David Stern not punished Amare and Diaw. They still do not understand it is Sun's players mistake to leave the bench and do not understand Sun's assistant coaches failed to control their players.

In past 3 years, Suns did not win anything significant against Spurs (check regular season and playoff records) and somehow think that Suns was robbed.

These people are forgetting that it is 3-2 Spurs even if we discount 1 games in which Amare and Diaw did not play.

Nobody gave us a shot in '06. And that team was really nothing like the team last year. And to say that we wouldn't have beaten the nuggets is just laughable. You don't beat Phoenix by running with them. Denver is an awful matchup for us.

Do I think that we would've won a rign? Not really. But I have no idea. Did we have a chance? You bet your ass.

[FromWayDowntown]

You can change the stat and make it even more poignant, in some sense -- all the Suns did in the past 2 years was to win series against teams that failed to win at least 50 games in the regular season.

In the last 3 years, since the Suns got Nash and improved dramatically, the elite teams (teams that have reached the Finals or more than one Conference Finals in the last 3 seasons) have the following playoff series records against teams that won 50 games in the regular season:

SAS -- 6-1 (.833)(d. 07 CLE, 07 UTH, 07 PNX, 05 DET, 05 PNX, 05 SEA; l. 06 DAL)
MIA -- 2-1 (.667)(d. 06 DAL, 06 DET; l. 05 DET)
DAL -- 3-2 (.600)(d. 06 PNX, 06 SAS, 05 HOU; l. 06 MIA, 05 PNX)
DET -- 2-3 (.400)(d. 06 CLE, 05 MIA; l. 07 CLE, 06 MIA, 05 SAS)
CLE -- 1-2 (.333)(d. 07 DET; l. 07 SAS, 06 DET)
PNX -- 1-3 (.250)(d. 05 DAL; l. 07 SA, 06 DAL, 05 SAS)

[da_suns_fan__]

You can change the stat and make it even more poignant, in some sense -- all the Suns did in the past 2 years was to win series against teams that failed to win at least 50 games in the regular season.

In the last 3 years, since the Suns got Nash and improved dramatically, the elite teams (teams that have reached the Finals or more than one Conference Finals in the last 3 seasons) have the following playoff series records against teams that won 50 games in the regular season:

SAS -- 6-1 (.833)(d. 07 CLE, 07 UTH, 07 PNX, 05 DET, 05 PNX, 05 SEA; l. 06 DAL)
MIA -- 2-1 (.667)(d. 06 DAL, 06 DET; l. 05 DET)
DAL -- 3-2 (.600)(d. 06 PNX, 06 SAS, 05 HOU; l. 06 MIA, 05 PNX)
DET -- 2-3 (.400)(d. 06 CLE, 05 MIA; l. 07 CLE, 06 MIA, 05 SAS)
CLE -- 1-2 (.333)(d. 07 DET; l. 07 SAS, 06 DET)
PNX -- 1-3 (.250)(d. 05 DAL; l. 07 SA, 06 DAL, 05 SAS)

So youre not JEALOUS of all the attention the Suns get are you?

Spurs fans are mad at the wrong guys. You all knew this was coming the day Horry caused the suspensions. Your own San Antonio Express writers pointed out that you don't want to win "this way".

This is the consequence. The Spurs get zero respect and the Suns are loved by all.


No doubt the Suns will be favored to win again. Spurs better hope for another lucky break (no Joe Johnson, No Amare/Diaw).

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

So youre not JEALOUS of all the attention the Suns get are you?

Spurs fans are mad at the wrong guys. You all knew this was coming the day Horry caused the suspensions. Your own San Antonio Express writers pointed out that you don't want to win "this way".

This is the consequence. The Spurs get zero respect and the Suns are loved by all.


No doubt the Suns will be favored to win again. Spurs better hope for another lucky break (no Joe Johnson, No Amare/Diaw).

Can you tell me exactly what any of this has to do with FWD's post? He posted the stats of conference finals/finals teams over the last 3 years, so where do you get all this crap about us being jealous and mad?

[FromWayDowntown]

So youre not JEALOUS of all the attention the Suns get are you?

I couldn't care less about whatever attention the Suns get. Basketball, for me, isn't about popularity -- it's about winning. My team is winning right now and that's what I'm interested in. So you're right, I'm not jealous of all the attention the Suns get; I'm thrilled with watching my team win championships.

Spurs fans are mad at the wrong guys. You all knew this was coming the day Horry caused the suspensions. Your own San Antonio Express writers pointed out that you don't want to win "this way".

This is the consequence. The Spurs get zero respect and the Suns are loved by all.

I'm not mad at anyone. Someone brought up a statistic and I merely tried to advance the conversation by adding another statistic. I've noticed that all you bring to the conversation is insults of Spurs fans. Curious that you either choose to bring no substance or are unable to bring any substance. Regardless of the reason, it is abundantly clear that your purpose here has nothing whatsoever to do with actually discussing basketball. I'm sorry for you that your life is so pathetic that you derive some sick enjoyment from just trolling an internet forum -- as a human being, I do hope that you'll find more productive and happier ways to pass your time.

No doubt the Suns will be favored to win again. Spurs better hope for another lucky break (no Joe Johnson, No Amare/Diaw).

Or Suns fans can hope for another convienent excuse. . . .

And is that "again" the notion that the Suns will be favored to win? I didn't notice that the Suns were a particular favorite anywhere last year or even the year before -- and they certainly weren't a favorite in 2005. It couldn't be that the Suns are favored to win again, since they've not won anything that really matters; but it's hard to say a team will be favored again when it's never before been a prohibitive favorite.