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With Parker, Manu and Duncan on this team, if you've got the ball in Vaughn's hands with the clock ticking down, I hope you get fired.
For a second there I thought it said "rumor is" Jas vicius will aign with Panathinaakos. But we all know how those rumors fly around.
With Parker, Manu and Duncan on this team, if you've got the ball in Vaughn's hands with the clock ticking down, I hope you get fired.
It true. it be all overs the as TV.
Saras to be signs with Panathinaikos Greens.
He be starts play maker then 3D Octopus Diamantidis to be point forward.
Becirovic probable be shooting guard and then Spanoulis take old role he always usual have with Maroussi and Panathinaikos of 6th man bes best 6th man all Europe plays play maker and shooting guard.
Vujanic be Saras backup and he play main to be scores and makes change of quickness at play maker. Saras be main run offense and passes then Diamantidis do this with second team after Saras be bench.
Also Spanoulis and Diamantidis all defends other guards so Saras not have to worry on defense.
Every people be alreadys say Panathinaikos greatest of all team ever put all together history of Euroleague.
There be's now 12 NBA equals player on team firsts in Europe.
Who`s on the team? Other than Sani, Span, Saras, Diamantidis and Vujanic. (which is a uva backcourt)
Shoogar and Phenomanul...
The reason I wouldn't consider Kerr a fearless shooter is because I wouldn't exactly describe Kerr as a guy who wanted to just shoot the big shots regardless...
He'd shoot them if open, and he'd make them...but he just never struck me as the guy begging for the ball in that situation.
I remember his final year...I believe it was in the finals against the Nets when he had the big game...in fact I'm certain that's when it was because Kidd was doubling Duncan off him...
Anyway... Kidd kept doubling and leaving Kerr open and Duncan kept passing the ball back, but Kerr kept passing it back to Duncan...either because Kidd hadn't commited or because his feet weren't set...I dunno, all I know is he wouldn't shoot the three...during one of the passbacks he moved in to the 2 point line(and hit it) for the feed...
You could actually see Duncan getting visibly frustrated because he wanted Kerr in the game, and he wanted him taking that shot...
That just doesn't strike me as a fearless shooter mindset....fearless shooter is going to freaking shoot it if he is halfway open and is not going to be overly concerned with lining up the perfect shot or moving in for a closer shot when open.
This does not mean Kerr wasn't clutch, because he was...very clutch, not just with the Spurs but with Jordan and Bulls...but he's just not the guy looking to shoot the big shot under any cir stances...
Very similar to Barry actually.
Now Shane Heal....there's a fearless shooter and IMO, he'd hit them.
Not sold on Sarunas....
This be come from translate of PAO fan site
Panathinaikos Athens Greens 2007-2008
Starters
Point Guard
Sarunas Jasikevicius Lithuania 6-4 200
NBA: Undrafted
Indiana Pacers 2005-2007
Individual Awards
Spanish League MVP 2003
Eurobasket MVP 2003
Euroleague Final Four MVP 2005
Championships
2-Time Spanish Champion
2001, 2003
2-Time Spanish Cup Champion
2001, 2003
2-Time Israeli Champion
2004, 2005
2-Time Israeli Cup Champion
2004, 2005
3-Time Euroleague Champion
2003, 2004, 2005
European Champion Lithuania 2003
Shooting Guard
Sani Becirovic Slovenia 6-5 200
NBA: Drafted #46 Denver Nuggets 2003
Individual Awards
EuroCup Scoring Champion 2005
Greek All Star Game 3 Point Champion 2007
Championships
Slovenian Champion 2001
2-Time Slovenian Cup Champion
2000, 2001
Italian Cup Champion 2002
Italian Super Cup Champion 2005
Greek Champion 2007
Greek Cup Champion 2007
Euroleage Champion 2007
Point Forward
Dimitris Diamantidis Greece 6-5 195
Individual Awards
3 time Euroleague Defender of Year
2004, 2005, 2006
2 time Greek League championship MVP 2004, 2006
Euroleague Final Four MVP 2007
Championships
3-Time Greek Champion
2005, 2006, 2007
3-Time Greek Champion Cup
2005, 2006, 2007
Euroleague Champion 2007
European Champion Greece 2005
Power Forward
Mike Batiste USA 6-8 225
Arizona State University 1999
NBA: Undrafted
Memphis Grizzlies 2002-2003
Individual Awards
PAC-10 Blocked Shots Leader 1998
First Team PAC-10 1999
Championships
5-Time Greek Champion
2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
4-Time Greek Cup Champion
2003, 2005, 2006, 2007
Euroleague Champion 2007
Power Forward/Center
Kostas Tsartsaris Greece 6-10 245
Championships
5-Time Greek Champion 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
4-Time Greek Cup Champion 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007
Euroleague Champion 2007
European Champion Greece 2005
Bench6th Man
Combo Guard
Vassilis Spanoulis Greece 6-4 205
NBA: Drafted #50 Dallas Mavericks 2004
Houston Rockets 2006-2007
Individual Awards
FIBA Europe Most Improved Player 2004
EuroCup Rookie of Year 2004
EuroCup 6th Man of Year 2005
Euroleague Rookie of Year 2006
Euroleague 6th Man of Year 2006
Championships
Greek Champion 2006
Greek Cup Champion 2006
European Champion Greece 2005
Point Guard
Milos Vujanic Serbia 6-3 195
NBA: Drafted #35 New York Knicks 2002
Individual Awards
Euroleague Scoring Champion 2003
Championships
2-Time Serbian Champion
2002, 2003
Serbian Cup Champion 2002
Italian Cup Champion 2005
Greek Champion 2007
Greek Cup Champion 2007
Euroleague Champion 2007
World Champion Serbia 2002
Shooting Guard/Small Forward
Nikos Hatzivrettas Greece 6-6 205
Individual Awards
Greek League Scoring Champion 2002
Championships
Russian Champion 2003
4-Time Greek Champion
2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
3-Time Greek Cup Champion
2005, 2006, 2007
Euroleague Champion 2007
European Champion Greece 2005
Shooting Guard/Small Forward
Kennedy Winston USA 6-7 230
University of Alabama 2005
NBA: Undrafted
Individual Awards
SEC Scoring Champion 2005
2-Time All SEC First Team 2004, 2005
Team
Led University of Alabama to NCAA Division I Elite Eight.
Small Forward/Power Forward
Fragiskos Alvertis Greece 6-9 225
Individual Awards
9-Time All Greek League
9-Time Greek All-Star
Championships
9-Time Greek Champion
1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
6-Time Greek Cup Champion
1993, 1996, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007
4-Time Euroleague Champion
1996, 2000, 2002, 2007
Power Forward/Center
Dimosthenis Dikoudis Greece 6-9 235
Individual Awards
Greek League Rookie of Year 1999
Greek League MVP 2002
Championships
Russian Champion 2005
Russian Cup Champion 2005
Saporta Cup Champion 2000
2-Time Greek Champion 2002, 2007
3-Time Greek Cup Champion
2001, 2002, 2007
Euroleague Champion 2007
Power Forward/Center
Andrija Zizic Croatia 6-10 235
Individual Awards
Adriatic League Rebounding Champion 2003
Championships
2-Time Croatian Champion 2003, 2004
Center
Dejan Tomasevic Serbia 6-10 240
Individual Awards
Euroleague MVP 2001
Serbian Championship MVP 1998
Championships
6-Time Serbian Champion
1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2001
2-Time Serbian Cup Champion 1999, 2001
Spanish Champion 2002
ULEB Cup Champion 2003
2-Time Greek Champion 2006, 2007
2-Time Greek Cup Champion 2006, 2007
Euroleague Champion 2007
2-Time European Champion Serbia
1995, 1997
2-Time World Champion Serbia
1998, 2002
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 09-24-2007 at 09:05 PM.
You will see Sarunas playing in San Antonio in October...
for Panathinaikos.
It's official: Jasikevicius signed a 2-year contract with Panathinaikos (10m$)
Panathinaikos Roster:
Jasikevicius-Vujanic
Spanoulis-Becirovic-Hatzivrettas
Diamantidis-Winston Kennedy-Perperoglou-Alvertis
Mike Batiste-Dikoudis-Zizic
Tsartsaris-Tomasevic
Mate, it takes a while to translate your posts but I like them!
Let's go see Pana together next time I'm in Greece.
Is it hard to get tickets?
Saras-VSpan-Diamantidis....that's probably the best back-court in Euroleague history.
and Vujanic-Becirovic-Hatzivrettas would start for most other Eurolegue teams.
(I wonder why the Spanish teams didn't try harder to keep pace, with the finals played in Madrid this year)
CSKA Moscow has also a great back-court (Papaloukas-Langdon-Siskauskas).
no doubt, but I would still rank Saras-VSpan-Diamantidis higher and (as mentioned) the 2nd unit of Panathinaikos is for sure far better than the one of CSKA. (Zisis is a nice talent, though)
anyhow, right now it seems as if Panathinaikos and CSKA will be far ahead of the rest of the teams.
yeah and they could get Kirilenko
Interesting that the new prediction for V-Span is that he will not start for even a good Euro team. This isn't to take anything away from the 6th man position because Manu performs there about as well as any starter, but it does take some of the luster off the discussion about the loss of V-Span to the Spurs.
Papalukas also comes off the bench for CSKA (and Greece if I`m not mistaken), and he was Final Four MVP.
You confuse how be works in Euroleague. Not matter so much to player start or 6th man. Papaloukas have been final four MVP of Euroleague, MVP of Euroleague and Europeans players of year.
In Euroleague he is calls "The Legend"
Actual reason Spanoulis maybe play 6th mans is because he better than player like Becirovic because he basic cant play play maker only shooting guard.
Saras basic cant play shooting guard. Diamantidis needs only play play maker or point forwards offense but defense can guards position 1,2,3.
Saras not able to play good defense even Euroleage unless as team help defense.
Spanoulis able play both guard spot and also play both offense and defense, plus some player play not as good if come off bench, but Spanoulis play equal bench or starts.
He very similar player to Manu like this and do whatever team need. If play 2nd unit he help team more.
He do this also National Team and even though he lead National Team in 2006 Worlds Champion and 2007 Eurobasket in scoring both times #1 for Greece even though comes off bench.
He debatable top 3 player with Diamantidis and Papaloukas on National Team (Papaloukas also come off bench) but most likely he now best player of National Team.
He for sures better player on Panathinaikos than Becirovic and keeps in mind Becirovic very talent player he draft pick of Denver Nuggets remember. He very much possible this year be better than Saras and Diamantidis.
Puts like this he younger and at same age he way ahead of them.
Plus when Spanoulis plays with Maroussi he play 6ths man. You see Maroussi roster then you laugh.
One year he plays 6th man for Maroussi he finish 3rd MVP voting another year he finish 2nd.
6th man just because he able to make its help team more like Manu. Bases on Eurobasket he should be 2nd best player on Panathinaikos after Saras, and bases on Saras' age and body obvious slow down, he very good possible be team best player.
He for sure 2nd best on team in defense after Diamantidis, this not even debates.
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 09-25-2007 at 04:27 PM.
10mil?!?!?
Saras is one of my favourite players of all time but holy ....
10 mil for him?!
(i wouldnt say anything if he would be 5 years younger...)
Thats load of money even for an NBA team.
What si PAN budget per year?
30mil$
Last edited by magic; 09-26-2007 at 12:23 AM.
Panathinaikos will pay Jasikevicius 10mln $ for 2 seasons and 4mln $ buyout for Wariors. So it will cost Panathinaikos 14mln $ for 2 seasons Jasikevicius. He will be most expiensive basketball player playing in Europe and yes he is worth every cent. Europe teams knows hes worth. He not only can pass beautifull passes but can shot very inportant shots. He is team spirit. At this years Europe Championship he played with 3 injuries and couldn't play all 40mins but was most assist doing player in Champ and bringed Lithuania to 3 place in Championship. Just watch video about hes playing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMF3zJtUjaE
That explains it.
10mil?!?!?
Saras is one of my favourite players of all time but holy ....
10 mil for him?!
(i wouldnt say anything if he would be 5 years younger...)
Thats load of money even for an NBA team.
What si PAN budget per year?
It have been said recent I hear that with Spanoulis and Saras contract and buyouts pays to Warriors and Spurs, the team be at $42 million US dollar in budget.
42 mil, wow!
i dont want to think how much Slovenian Eurolage team Olimpija has
i guess some Euro teams will form a new NBA divison some time in the future
with this kind of money going around.. it could be possible
Panathinaikos is loaded and...
PANATHINAIKOS will be playing exhibition games against, you guessed it, 11 October in Houston and 13 October in San Antonio from 16:30 to 19:30.
I so hope that they put up a good performance against two of the NBA's top teams and not get blown out so the Greek Players can claim that they belong. These exhibition games will really show what this Greek team is made of.
Not only that but here's some new info for Spurs fans:
http://www.sportdog.gr/new/article.aspx?id=41501
Here's hoping someone who speaks Greek can translate this article. But the heading for the link was printed in English.
Panathinaikos to play in NBA in 2010
According to David Stern
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