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see above post.
I never said he couldn't play anything resembling good D...he played good D in his 2 minute stint the other night, and if he didn't I challenge you to show me where he ed up.
He hasn't actually played bad D in quite a while...that's not why he is getting yanked.
He can't play D as good as Devin, period...yes I can say that with certainty. And I could have told you that before we signed him.
see above post.
No, he will never play good enough D for Pop. There is a difference. I didn't catch your estimate of his playing time the rest of the season. Afraid to go on the record?
Sure -- it'll be more than 10.
Whoop de do.
Now get those trade offers ready.
Chump never goes on record...and if he/she/it does it's only because he is speaking for the Spurs and Pop...not what he/her/it him/her/it self thinks.
See above post
So you are saying he's going to average more than 10 mins per game from this point on?
Meaning, ...he will still average over 10 mins per game for the season based on the minutes he gets from this point on?
Edit: and if the stays with the Spurs?
Last edited by whottt; 12-18-2004 at 12:55 AM.
Will it be back up to the 25 he averaged in November? Pretty vague answer, and a safe one I might add. No conviction?
Sure. If Malik can play 18mpg after supposedly being blacklisted by Pop....
I don't think it's safe prediction...Chump just went out on a huge limb...albeit unintentionally.
Barry is going to have trouble just getting in the game for the rest of the season...much less staying in it enough to average more than 10 mins per game.
Probably not if Beno and Brown keep up their current level of play.Will it be back up to the 25 he averaged in November?
Is 25 your qwhottta? How many minutes would make you stop whining?
When is the epiphany going to take place? On what date do you project that Barry will finally "get it" defensively and emerge from the doghouse?
And with no injuries?
Let me get this straight...
>10 MPG from this point on, playing for the Spurs, and not because of injury?
According to you never so if it happens at all, you guys are sunk. You actually have to root against your boy getting PT. Awesome.When is the epiphany going to take place? On what date do you project that Barry will finally "get it" defensively and emerge from the doghouse?
No, this is why you are stupid...most of us aren't afraid of being wrong...we'd much rather see Barry get that playing time than win a bet with you.
Didn't you notice that last season I was rooting for myself to be wrong to you guys about our perimeter game? About Hedo?
I rooting for you to be right for once...
It'll mean Pop is a smarter offensive coach than I think he is or have seen him to be in the last 8 years.
Devin's D is overrated. He is an ok defender. Just that.
Then quit your ing.No, this is why you are stupid...most of us aren't afraid of being wrong...we'd much rather see Barry get that playing time than win a bet with you.
I asked you, I already know what I think. The question was to you.
You already know what I think.
RIF.
I agree with that. He is better than Barry no doubt, but #30 on the Bulls went around him 3 or 4 times like he was glued to the floor.
I want to make sure I have your prediction straight and am not putting words in your mouth...
Barry will average>10MPG from this point on in the season, playing for the Spurs and not due to injury?
We can prove this by just totalling up the mins in games he plays in which everyone was healthy.
And you made a big mistake by using Malik as your example..
Malik got minutes early in the season, he also started about 10-15 games in place of Duncan.
Sure.
This injury thing makes the whole bet moot though, you can't claim anything may or may not have happened otherwise.
I simply have more faith in Barry than you guys. This seems like the biggest deal ever to you guys. Get Jim to put $1000 on it.
I would like to see Beno numbers from Barry and Malik numbers from Rasho.
Doesn't that sound weird?
Bullcrap on the injury thing...
Kerr played well when Speedy was injured...he hit game winning shots...he was steady..he still got consigned to the bench and went out 30 games without playing once Speedy came back.
I can prove what what happend with injuries by looking at what does happen when those players return from injury.
It's real simple...in games where Manu, Parker, Devin and Beno are healthy, Barry will not average 10 mins per game...I'll even give you Mike Wilks and give him an injury pass. Even if he does get injured Barry won't get more than 10 per game.
And it doesn't matter if he plays the D of his life and out shoots all the other guys...
And I disagree that Devin is over-rated as a defensive player...I think he has turned into a very good defensive player and will only get better and better.
Really?I can prove what what happend with injuries by looking at what does happen when those players return from injury.
Day to day injuries?
Limited minutes due to injuries and subsequent recoveries?
I was doing you a favor, but if you think you can prove everything in every situation, let me know how you are going to prorate the minutes in those situations.
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