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  1. #26
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    Didn't someone actually get hurt in the Jena incident?
    Oh dear God. So you are saying if somebody just took your son, held him against his will, and wrote some offensive all over him and he feels the need to report this to dorm officials and police you would just say he was being a little about it because he may or may not have been hurt physically?

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    This is lame huh? I don't take lightly people writing things such as KKK and drawing swastikas on a minority as "just ing around." Also, if they were just ing around why did the boy go to the police?
    He didn't. He went to his RA. The school called the police and, by the way, "no charges have been filed".

    And you know why I think they were ing around? Because if they meant business they would've picked one. Is it the KKK or the Nazis? Since they wrote both, it leads me to believe they're typical teenage boys doing something typically completely ing moronic because that's what bored teenage boys do when they have tiffs with their friends.

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    Oh dear God. So you are saying if somebody just took your son, held him against his will, and wrote some offensive all over him and he feels the need to report this to dorm officials and police you would just say he was being a little about it because he may or may not have been hurt physically?

    I guess we're just going to have to agree that we don't understand each other's point of view. You seem to be really upset by this and I really don't get it, so let's leave it there.

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    He didn't. He went to his RA. The school called the police and, by the way, "no charges have been filed".

    And you know why I think they were ing around? Because if they meant business they would've picked one. Is it the KKK or the Nazis? Since they wrote both, it leads me to believe they're typical teenage boys doing something typically completely ing moronic because that's what bored teenage boys do when they have tiffs with their friends.
    Whatever, typical resonse and reaction. I guess it would take for it to be a white kid for you to give a rats ass huh? I'm done with this .

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    Whatever, typical resonse and reaction. I guess it would take for it to be a white kid for you to give a rats ass huh? I'm done with this .
    Yes, I'm so very racist. (edited because I like to pretend I'm polite)

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    Do we even know which kid wrote on the other kid?

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    What if the black kid wrote it?

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    Yes, I'm so very racist. (edited because I like to pretend I'm polite)
    You don't have to tell me I already figured that one out.

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    These kids will never hear the end of this.

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    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
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    How was he kidnapped and assaulted?
    Marking someone's body with a marker is an assault when the person marked doesn't consent to it. Assault doesn't necessarily have to be hitting or kicking a person, it can be simply touching someone in an offensive manner (such as shoving or grabbing someone). In this case, touching the boy with a marker and marking his body can be construed as being touched in an offensive manner.

    A person can be kidnapped if he's held against his will and deadly force is used or threatened. There's also a lesser crime called unlawful restraint. Unlawful restraint occurs when someone is simply held against his will (regardless of the fact that deadly force or the threat of deadly force was not used). In this case, I don't think it's a stretch to assume that the boy was held against his will, but we can't tell from the limited facts provided whether deadly force was used or threatened.

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    Marking someone's body with a marker is an assault when the person marked doesn't consent to it. Assault doesn't necessarily have to be hitting or kicking a person, it can be simply touching someone in an offensive manner (such as shoving or grabbing someone). In this case, touching the boy with a marker and marking his body can be construed as being touched in an offensive manner.

    A person can be kidnapped if he's held against his will and deadly force is used or threatened. There's also a lesser crime called unlawful restraint. Unlawful restraint occurs when someone is simply held against his will (regardless of the fact that deadly force or the threat of deadly force was not used). In this case, I don't think it's a stretch to assume that the boy was held against his will, but we can't tell from the limited facts provided whether deadly force was used or threatened.
    Note to TLWisfoine: This is how you present a rational argument. If you hadn't ignored my valid points and called me a racist, you and I would've had an interesting discussion

    Oh Gee, I understand they're following the letter of the law. I was simply saying this has the feeling of someting being blown out of proportion. I understand we don't know all the facts and this may be worse than the report states. It doesn't sound like the incident was meant to be a hate crime because there was a black kid in on the act and they didn't hurt the kid, from what we can tell. It just sounds to me like a bunch of friends who got pissed off and did something stupid.

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    just sounds to me like a bunch of friends who got pissed off and did something stupid.
    That could be true, and that's probably why a lot of crimes are committed (especially with teenagers).

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    Note to TLWisfoine: This is how you present a rational argument. If you hadn't ignored my valid points and called me a racist, you and I would've had an interesting discussion

    Oh Gee, I understand they're following the letter of the law. I was simply saying this has the feeling of someting being blown out of proportion. I understand we don't know all the facts and this may be worse than the report states. It doesn't sound like the incident was meant to be a hate crime because there was a black kid in on the act and they didn't hurt the kid, from what we can tell. It just sounds to me like a bunch of friends who got pissed off and did something stupid.
    I will admit that I was wrong to go off on you like that, but you have to understand me being a 55 year old black man who has seen his share of racism doesn't take lightly when something like this happens. It takes me back to old times.
    It also seemed to me that you were just blowing off this whole thing as just fun and games. Again I ask if this had happened to your child how would you react?

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    I'd be pissed as if something like this occurred to my daughter. I don't give a darn whether the kids are black, white or purple & I certainly don't care if they were just " ing around". They still committed at least 2 crimes and wrote terribly offensive stuff on that child.

    If they just robbed a store would that be considered stupid teenage behavior too?!?! Or what if they went to Jewish temple and wrote racist epitaphs all over the place with their sharpies? Or a Black Baptist Church?

    I agree that kids get stupid, moronic ideas, but putting those ideas into action subjects them to the same laws as adults.

    I also wonder if that boy will ever again feel safe when he's with a group of kids of a different race. Do you think he thought it was just a stupid thing teenagers do?


    Summers, I'm not trying to argue with you it's just that this particular story bugged me. When I was in the 6th grade there was a boy at my school who was very strange and one day on the playground he went ballistic and started yelling and screaming about how we was going to kill all the girls in the world because this was such a cruel place. After school on the way home my best friend and I ran in to him. We decided to teach him a lesson about making threats, so I held him back while she hit him. Then when I let go he knocked my glasses off so I punched him in the face and threw his glasses in the creek. To this day I regret my actions and feel so terrible for the part I played in that. I was lucky I didn't get arrested. If I ever have the chance I will apologize to him. He moved away and I don't know where.

    Just my thoughts....

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    damn, you and your friend are/were hardcore

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    These kids should definitely be punished.

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    I dont see what all the fuss is about, Sharpie can be washed off easily.

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    I hope they make these kids walk around with drawings on their heads.

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