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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    Will you please tell me what a real plan for fighting a war, except
    victory.
    Would you please tell me what cons utes victory in Iraq and how that is to be achived?

    You want another Korea. Over 54 years we have been
    there and we are still having problems.
    This situation is nothing like Korea.

    Is that you idea of a
    real plan. VN was a total fiasco. Nothing was solved there, except
    for the North, which executed their plan. Kill all that didn't comply
    and "re-educate"everyone else. Now there is a plan.
    Well, we did kill a few million of them in the meantime and stalled the inevitable self-determination of their people. That's partly what we are doing in Iraq except it will end up three countries instead of just one.

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    Would you please tell me what cons utes victory in Iraq and how that is to be achived?

    This situation is nothing like Korea.

    Well, we did kill a few million of them in the meantime and stalled the inevitable self-determination of their people. That's partly what we are doing in Iraq except it will end up three countries instead of just one.
    Victory is what it says: Victory, we win, they lose. We
    defeat them, we beat them till they no longer want to
    oppose us. We stay the course and do not back off.

    The situation is every bit like Korea, if we are to believe
    the Dimm-o-craps. Korea was a civil war, o.......
    North Korea versus South Korea. And China and Russia
    was backing North Korea. Ever heard of AQ?

    If we win, we will have established, hopefully, a true
    democracy in the middle of a bunch of countries that
    haven't experienced that in eons. Hopefully, it can bring
    an end to corruption in those countries. Corruption is
    what kills all democracies. Look South, Mexico, we,
    the United States is paying dearly for corruption in Mexico.
    We are fighting corruption as much as terrorism in
    the ME. Look how it corrupted a Major in our Army right
    here in deal of San Antonio.

    We give up there. Then my fine young friends, we are
    lost. Because we, the free, Christian world, will be fighting
    on our own soil and insanely enough, politicians within
    our own government who want to concede more and more
    of our rights to those who will demand even more.
    You cannot compromise with those that demand all.

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    maybe they're pissed because we're trying to highjack their only resource.

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    Victory is what it says: Victory, we win, they lose. We
    defeat them, we beat them till they no longer want to
    oppose us. We stay the course and do not back off.
    We are backing off in the spring.

    There goes that plan.

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    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
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    maybe they're pissed because we're trying to highjack their only resource.
    Really! At 80 bucks a barrel I hardly find that a
    hijacking. You know if we really wanted to take some one's
    oil, the real simple thing to do is just invade Mexico. They
    have no Army and most of them would rather be part of
    the U.S. to begin with. And they have lots of oil left to
    take. Of course the environmentalist would try to stop the
    drilling there to and then because we have no
    energy plan.....

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    it's about quan y ray. they can put any price they want on it. oil is sold by the US dollar standard, even though the ME has it's own local currency. the house of saud are the ones that have commited to selling oil by this standard and they have the power in OPEC. It's about quan y and who owns the locals

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