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  1. #26
    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Because the 80's Lakers were able to play some D (not a lot, but some)
    The 80s lakers would be the second or third best defense in the league today. Kareem isn't third all time in blocks for nothin'.

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    Suns fans on suicide watch forum...
    who?

    Go Suns! Go!

  3. #28
    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    Every Suns fan who knows better...

    Itty-bitty ball doesn't win les. It merely creates the illusion of contention because of the "any given game" effect that offense can have. Unfortunately, any given game doesn't win in series vs. the best the League can offer.

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    Good thing they signed Skinner then.

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    I don't care HOW FAST you can run or how small you can go.

    DEFENSE! Learn it!

    That's why GS was able to get past Dallas (Dallas played poor defense) but not Utah (Utah knows how to play defense).

    And GS is seen to be a faster, more explosive team than Phoenix once they got more national television exposure (playoffs). Being fast and explosive does not equal a championship. You might get by poor defense teams (60 regular season wins but no championship), but you will not get by the top defensive teams of the West (SA and Utah)

    And you might not want to run Grant Hill or Nash too hard at their ages.

    That's how "old and unathletic" teams like the 2006 Heat with Payton, Shaq, and Alonzo Mourning were able to win: No run and gun, but hard defense.

    Same with the "oldest team in the league". They don't run around jacking up 100 shots a game. They play defense.

    Look at the last 9 NBA Champions and you will see guys who played defense:

    Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, Detroit Pistons, Alonzo

  6. #31
    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    They're just tiring themselves out the way they're supposed to tire themselves out. Not on defense.

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    Nash will run so fast on fast breaks he won't be able to see the basket and will eventually crash in the Spurs' locker-room.

  8. #33
    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Nash will run so fast on fast breaks he won't be able to see the basket and will eventually crash in the Spurs' locker-room.
    But he will flop and the locker room will be called for a blocking foul.

  9. #34
    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    But he will flop and the locker room will be called for a blocking foul.
    Just so long as the locker room doesn't extend it elbow and give a little shove

  10. #35
    Believe.
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    Every Suns fan who knows better...

    Itty-bitty ball doesn't win les. It merely creates the illusion of contention because of the "any given game" effect that offense can have. Unfortunately, any given game doesn't win in series vs. the best the League can offer.

    just buy a spurs jersey and be done with it, you san antonio kiss ass.

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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Just so long as the locker room doesn't extend it elbow and give a little shove
    Then you have to worry about the women's restrooms coming off the bench to defend the locker room.

    Okay, it's not funny.

  13. #38
    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    What's funny is I probably attended my first game before cheatin' heart and suns_fanatic were even born, yet because I've been aroudn the block, know a wee bit more from experience and have determined it's highly unlikely the Suns itty-bitty ball their way to a le, I'm dumped on for a lack of fanaticism...

    yourcheatinheart and da_suns_fan__ ... frowning upon smarts since their first board appearence.

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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    What's funny is I probably attended my first game before cheatin' heart and suns_fanatic were even born,
    So you've actually seen a Suns game from beyond 2005???

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    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    1986 was my first game.

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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    1986 was my first game.
    that's way before I was born.

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    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    I was five. There's pictures, but I don't remember much. The first game of memory was in 88. KJ was in the old school uni then, I remember I spent my allowance on a KJ magnet and poster. Still have the magnet.

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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    I was five. There's pictures, but I don't remember much. The first game of memory was in 88. KJ was in the old school uni then, I remember I spent my allowance on a KJ magnet and poster. Still have the magnet.
    Dang that's awesome. My first game was in 2004 against Minnesota when TD was questionable for the game and we went out there and owned them by 20 points. They kept control throughout and it was just the perfect kind of first game ever.

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    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    I had a lot of great times.

  20. #45
    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    How many have you been to? I've been to like 7.

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    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    I went to close to a half a dozen pre-AWA, and when AWA was built a wealthy uncle of mine rented a skybox for several seasons. Probably went to a dozen games or so with the skybox, and at AWA but no sky box, eight others. Have only been to three games since I graduated high school in 2000. Would have loved to go to more, but collge, work and expense didn't permit too many more. Have gone to two playoff games, both vs. Seattle. One in 93, which was won, and the other in 96, which was lost. Neither were skybox.

    Last game I saw at AWA was in 2003. I have yet to see a Nash-led game. Was very close last season to attending the last Suns/Mavericks game, but wasn't able to get the time off.

    EDIT: Because of expense and availability, I've probably gone to as many Diamondbacks' games as Suns games, despite them only having been around for half my sport-going life. No playoff games here, though...

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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    Man you're so lucky. I don't care when but hopefully sometime in the future I'll be able to go to as many games as that.

  23. #48
    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    I was lucky. My uncle was so freakin' generous. He had season tickets for the Cardinals from their first season up UNTIL the season Plummer led them to playoffs. Man was he pissed he missed that season! He also had season tickets to ASU football. He owned a townhouse in Phoenix and whichever games he couldn't make it, he'd divy 'em up amongst the family. When we went to Phoenix, we'd stay in his townhouse to boot.

    I've probably gone to a solid 60 or 70 games, not counting those I've covered. Again, only two playoff games, but still. Having an uncle that was rich, passionate about sports AND unable to attend every game really made my childhood!

  24. #49
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    I've been to 1 NBA game only (Heat at Raptors, December 21, 2001)

    A few NHL games (Montreal-NY Islanders, Montreal-Pittsburgh, Montreal-Toronto)

    7 MLB games (Montreal Expos, who are now the Washington Nationals); damn, 10 to 20 $ Cad for a ticket; the cheapest MLB place.

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    The running game, even more runnier than last year - brilliant!

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