Quiz, Who said the following:

[Wild Cobra]

What an ironic statement, considering you're the one who started this thread with a bunch of quotes taken out of context in order to attempt to make some point.

Not really. When I see statements of people who I am familiar with, I have an immediate sense of whether the statement is in or out of context. Sure, I'm not always right, and I look it up if it's important to me. In the case of Giuliani, it appears completely accurate of what the statement implies and what I know of him. Same with the six quotes I posted which all six came from senator Clinton. They appear to be portrayed accurately from we know of her. Afterall, she is a dictator wanna-bee... Just a Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit...

Are you saying any of these are out of context? I don't believe so myself.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm not even voting for Hillary in the primaries! I wasted time doing this because Wild Cobra is one of those copy-and-paste, sad 10%-end-of-the-voting-population-bell-curve mouth breathers who still believes George W Bush is a good, intelligent man, the war in Iraq is just, and the Republican Party has any moral authority left at all. WC, you predictably fill your stereotyped role. If you want to argue politics, bring it.

Well, you do have me pegged wrong in regards to president Bush. I recognize his bad attributes, and you all forget that when I point them out, but you always remember when I agree with something he said or did.

As for the copy and paste type... are you kidding? I do more than my fair share of sharing my opinion and facts that go otherwise unnoticed by many. I prefer not to do large copy and past actions like some here do. Notice I usually say 'part or article'... How many people quote the entire article?

You have too young of a face to be getting selective memory loss...

Oh... Almost forgot...

Nice work on looking up the quotes. They are just like I thought. Pure socialism...

[Wild Cobra]

Summers just kicked some ass.

Not in my eyes... Am I over everyones head? He misjudged me, and assumed things not true. That is not ass-kicking...

[George Gervin's Afro]

Not really. When I see statements of people who I am familiar with, I have an immediate sense of whether the statement is in or out of context. Sure, I'm not always right, and I look it up if it's important to me. In the case of Giuliani, it appears completely accurate of what the statement implies and what I know of him. Same with the six quotes I posted which all six came from senator Clinton. They appear to be portrayed accurately from we know of her. Afterall, she is a dictator wanna-bee... Just a Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit...

Are you saying any of these are out of context? I don't believe so myself.

what do 'we' know of her? Please refrain from her being a socialist or wanting to kill our healthcare system neither of which is true. So fill us in on what makes your out of context quotes correct? Why don't you post what was said before and after the statements you provided? That would be the honest thing to do but I have a feeling it would lessen the desired effect. So i will sit back and wait to see your reasoning on 'what we know about her'.

[Wild Cobra]

what do 'we' know of her? Please refrain from her being a socialist or wanting to kill our healthcare system neither of which is true.

But she is a socialist, treading near Marxism! I'm sorry if you don't see that in her. As for Health Care. He ideas of making it more accessable will hurt it.

So fill us in on what makes your out of context quotes correct? Why don't you post what was said before and after the statements you provided? That would be the honest thing to do but I have a feeling it would lessen the desired effect.

Summers already placed the quotes in context. It is clearly socialism. I didn't place them in full context because it would have given away who said them too easily.

So i will sit back and wait to see your reasoning on 'what we know about her'.

How long have you been around? I was 33 when she became the First Lady. So many items coming to light about her throughout the years.

Just go to The Library of Congress and look at her voting record on different issues, or someplace like Project Vote Smart. I'm not going to bother explaining it. If you don't know what a socialist is, find out. She is one, no doubt.

What ever you do, don't rely on the Main Stream Media. They love her, and will always make her look good.

[George Gervin's Afro]

But she is a socialist, treading near Marxism! I'm sorry if you don't see that in her. As for Health Care. He ideas of making it more accessable will hurt it.


Summers already placed the quotes in context. It is clearly socialism. I didn't place them in full context because it would have given away who said them too easily.


How long have you been around? I was 33 when she became the First Lady. So many items coming to light about her throughout the years.

Just go to The Library of Congress and look at her voting record on different issues, or someplace like Project Vote Smart. I'm not going to bother explaining it. If you don't know what a socialist is, find out. She is one, no doubt.

What ever you do, don't rely on the Main Stream Media. They love her, and will always make her look good.

Well mr smart guy I actually wnt to college myself and have an undergrad degree in political science. Unlike you I can think for myself. By the way you moron I am not a big fan of hers and have posted as such on this board..

[Wild Cobra]

Well mr smart guy I actually wnt to college myself and have an undergrad degree in political science. Unlike you I can think for myself. By the way you moron I am not a big fan of hers and have posted as such on this board..

Where did you go?

University of Indoctrination?

You don't see her as a socialist?

As for college... none.

I was so ing board getting strait A's in high school. It was too easy. I dreaded the thought of more school. I never even bothered applying for scholarships or taking the SAT.

I buy books to keep my mind in tune. Even have a few on quantum physics.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I was so ing board getting strait A's in high school. It was too easy....I never even bothered applying for scholarships or taking the SAT.

I buy books to keep my mind in tune. Even have a few on quantum physics.

self-edu-ma-cated man.

[xrayzebra]

self-edu-ma-cated man.

OG, you are such a fish. Like Sucker. He plays you like
a fiddle.

[Oh, Gee!!]

OG, you are such a fish. Like Sucker. He plays you like
a fiddle.

I didn't realize we were using 1920's lingo today.

[RandomGuy]

Not really. When I see statements of people who I am familiar with, I have an immediate sense of whether the statement is in or out of context. Sure, I'm not always right, and I look it up if it's important to me. In the case of Giuliani, it appears completely accurate of what the statement implies and what I know of him. Same with the six quotes I posted which all six came from senator Clinton. They appear to be portrayed accurately from we know of her. Afterall, she is a dictator wanna-bee... Just a Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit...

Are you saying any of these are out of context? I don't believe so myself.

Than you didn't read the whole thing that Summers found for you. Of course all that crap was out of context, because it makes for better sound bites and cheap political theater.
Quite frankly I find this laziness typical of conservatives who get all their "news" from talk radio, Fox "news", et al.

Did you do that yourself, or was it a copy and paste job from some right-wing blog?

My guess is that it seems like the kind of cynical crap that Limbaugh puts on a consistant basis.

[ChumpDumper]

WC is deliciously insecure. Gets owned ignoring his own rules and spends the morning trying to explain why his rules sholdn't apply to him.

[RandomGuy]

Where did you go?

University of Indoctrination?

You don't see her as a socialist?

As for college... none.

I was so ing board getting strait A's in high school. It was too easy. I dreaded the thought of more school. I never even bothered applying for scholarships or taking the SAT.

I buy books to keep my mind in tune. Even have a few on quantum physics.

Translation:

"I have a high school education."

Part and parcel of good higher education is the ability to think critically, analyse information and have a more complex framework for understanding things.

Since you were bored with high school and got straight A's, then you should have no problem telling me one common principle of critical thinking.

Feel free to investigoogle.

[RandomGuy]

who said the following:

“The notion that we ought to now go to Baghdad and somehow take control of the country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we’d have to do once we got there. You’d probably have to put some new government in place. It’s not clear what kind of government that would be, how long you’d have to stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining the outcome of the struggle over who’s going to govern in Iraq strikes me as a classic definition of a quagmire.”


“Once you got to Iraq and took it over, and took down Saddam Hussein’s government, then what are you going to put in its place? That’s a very volatile part of the world and if you take down the central government in Iraq, you can easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off. How many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? And our judgment was - not very many and I think we got it right.”


“[T]he only way you could have done that would be to go to Baghdad and occupy Iraq. If we’d done that, the U.S. would have been all alone. We would not have had the support of the coalition, especially of the Arab nations that fought alongside us in Kuwait. None of them ever set foot inside Iraq. Conversations I had with leaders in the region afterwards–they all supported the decision that was made not to go to Baghdad.

“They were concerned that we not get into a position where we shifted instead of being the leader of an international coalition to roll back Iraqi aggression to one in which we were an imperialist power, willy-nilly moving into capitals in that part of the world taking down governments.”

"I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire. Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do?"

That would be Secretary of Defense Cheney, in the early 1990's.

Prophetic, ain't it?

[RandomGuy]

WC is deliciously insecure. Gets owned ignoring his own rules and spends the morning trying to explain why his rules sholdn't apply to him.

Sounds like "not part of the executive branch" Cheney.

[George Gervin's Afro]

That would be Secretary of Defense Cheney, in the early 1990's.

Prophetic, ain't it?

We have a winner...

I guess if he were a dem we would all have heard what flip flopper he was....

[Wild Cobra]

Since you were bored with high school and got straight A's, then you should have no problem telling me one common principle of critical thinking.

Feel free to investigoogle.

No googling. Probably not a book answer, but being open minded is a key aspect. Presumed theories need to be tested. Good enough for now?

I don't see very many here having either an open mind, or fact checking. I make a mistake in haste at times or my recall is sometimes faulty, but for the most part what I say is tested if I present it as fact.

Besides. I prefer Alta Vista for searches...

[clambake]

Who said.....

"I looked into his eyes and saw his soul".

[Wild Cobra]

Than you didn't read the whole thing that Summers found for you. Of course all that crap was out of context, because it makes for better sound bites and cheap political theater.

I did, and it is primarily in context. He highlighted parts of it wrong though. You disagree with all the sentiments being socialistic? Let's not forget the "I want to take their profits" statement referring to the oil companies. I'm surprised that one wasn't included. Maybe it was too memorable and would have given Hillary away?

1) Hillary for President 2008 site

2) ECONOMIC POLICY: Modern Progressive Vision: Shared Prosperity] May 29, 2007 speech

3, 4, and 5) 6/4/07 Sojourners Presidential Forum

6) Oil Firms Turn Katrina Into Profits, Clinton Says

Quite frankly I find this laziness typical of conservatives who get all their "news" from talk radio, Fox "news", et al.

Call it laziness if you want. I listen to Neal Boortz, Victoria Taft, Lars Larson, and Air America. I listen to a few other programs from time to time. I rarely take these things at face value. I do look things up.

Did you do that yourself, or was it a copy and paste job from some right-wing blog?

It's on Neal Boortz's site. Link to archive:

Today's Nuze: October 08, 2007

My guess is that it seems like the kind of cynical crap that Limbaugh puts on a consistant basis.

Limbaugh has a version of it on his site too. I found that when I was sourcing the quotes. He doesn't have it in the same format, but uses the same quotes. I don't know who the original source is.

[clambake]

lookz like your back to the basics