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Ditto! It is about how he would fit into the system though he sure can fill it up!
Would he defer his game to fit in????????
Play D and pass??????????
You guys are idiots if you wouldnt want Arenas with the Spurs.
Ditto! It is about how he would fit into the system though he sure can fill it up!
Would he defer his game to fit in????????
Play D and pass??????????
this is Arenas you are talking bout right?
He'll definitely need to know that he'll need to share the ball with EVERYONE. If he understands that sometimes he won't be the one with the ball in the end of a close game, he should definitely come on down. For the MLE.
Anyone that thinks Arenas would fit seamlessly into the Spurs disciplined, "share-the-ball","take-the-best-shot-available"-type offensive philosophy is an idiot.
Last edited by SenorSpur; 10-15-2007 at 05:40 PM.
I'd take Arenas in a second. Any one who wouldn't is a ing idiot.
Not going to happen. He's already making double-digits millions and I'm sure he's out to be paid somewhere in the neighborhood of say a Tim Duncan or Kobe Bryant. Whether or not he deserves a max contract is debatable.He'll definitely need to know that he'll need to share the ball with EVERYONE. If he understands that sometimes he won't be the one with the ball in the end of a close game, he should definitely come on down. For the MLE
Im noy saying hes a typical Spurs player. But you cant turn down one the better players in the league. Do you think Tony was always a Pop type player? He made Parker the player he is by using a thing called "coaching". Who are we to say the same cant be done for someone else? Maybe you are right, but you just cant turn someone like him down. you gotta give it a shot. Too much upside to turn down.
Imo nobody can say now that he can't play in the spurs system.... a lot of players came here and play good after a period
It depends on his adaptation but a guy with qualities like that could do something with the spurs
his ppg will drop a little bit but it's true that now he's the leader of a team , he controls the tempo of this team and in SA it will be very very different
( he will not sign in SA IMO for two reasons : Money and the Spurs have a PG with Parker )
He's barely even a PG. Just start him at SG and it's not like his style will change.
i have the same idea
Me too. But the Spurs aren't going to have max money available and Arenas will get the max.
Now for all those who want this guy on the Spurs, and he is a great shooter, you're forgetting the economics involved in acquiring a player like this. Consider the scenarios that must occur:
In order to add Arenas' high salary, you'll need to cut salary somewhere else if you want to avoid luxury tax penalties. Do you really think this organization is going to jettison one its higher-salaried players and its long term financial future in favor of Arenas?
Or maybe you think the FO is going to suddenly adopt a free-spending mentality and start paying millions annually in luxury taxes?
Or maybe you think Arenas will suddenly decide that he cares more about playing for a championship contender and elects to take much less than market value just to play with the Spurs? Before you answer, remember that Arenas is opting out of his current contract next summer because he knows the market will pay him more than the $10 mil he's getting now. A smart move on his part, too.
Without question, one of those outrageous scenarios that I just decsribed will have to occur in order for the Spurs to add Arenas. Still think Arenas is worth it? Do you think he should be paid as much as say, Tim Duncan?
Remember, the Spurs are slightly above the cap now. If Rashard Lewis got a max deal this past summar, how much do you think Arenas will be worth?
Wake up people. Face facts. This is a nice pipe dream that will NEVER happen. Just like the Spurs ill-advised flirtation with Jason Kidd.
Parker winning the Finals MVP had to be an absolute dagger to the heart of icecoldbrewski.
Agent Zero, with 15 on the shot clock and Tim with his man sealed off in the paint:
Hibachi!!!
Pop: The bench now!!!!
OMG getting Arenas would be amazing, we would be un-freaking-stoppable!
I was also screaming for us to draft him in whatever year that was, TP worked out all right, but now we have a chance to get him again.
when was the last time a top tier player had SA as one of his desired destinations? plus he fits into what's left of the 08 master plan.
Pop got Finely to play D, he can get anyone to play D. there should be plenty of shots to go around, Duncan shoots it less and less every year, until crunch time comes around. Bowen doesn't need any shots, nether do either of our Centers. Manu only plays 25 minutes, Arenas can also play the backup PG position, there'll never be a need for Manu TP and Arenas to be on the court at the same time.
we'd have one of the greatest 3-man guard rotations ever, opposing D's will never get a chance to relax.
god I hope we go after him.
Gilbert's not coming. We have no money to offer. If anyone thinks he's coming for less than a full MAX deal, you need to clean the spooge off your Agent Zero poster.
when was the last time a top tier player had SA as one of his desired destinations?
when was the last top tier FA that was angling for more money and using SA for it?
Spurs' total salaries is going to drop by about 15 million from this year to the next, should be enough to squeeze him in, plus he should take a few mill less than the max to come here since it would almost guarantee rings.
edit: upon further thought, how would we be able to sign him? we're going to be just barely under the salary cap with bowen's new deal plus whatever Fabio and Oduka got. damn
Last edited by vander; 10-15-2007 at 07:21 PM.
I know that Arenas chances of being a Spur are slim to none. I think that everybody here knows this.
You claimed he would not fit in with Spurs which obviously means you wouldnt want him in SA. To which I think is idiotic. Hes a damn good baller and any team would take him in second.
Hypothetically thinking, if we could keep our nucleus together and add Arenas, would you take it?
Arenas is one of the most feared shooters in the league. His contributions would be valuable to any team. However, he would certainly need to conform his playing style to fit into the Spurs system. I just don't see him being a conformist. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see him altering his playing style for anyone or any team. That's why I don't think he would fit in.
To answer your question, if we could keep our nucleus together and if Arenas agrees to conform to the standards and style of the team - you bet. I'd take him in a heartbeat.
thats not how the salary cap works. even with all that money coming off the books, the spurs can only offer whatever amount they are below the cap, which next year looks to be around 6 mil (give or take). we cant offer a contract starting any higher than that.
Agreed. I think we are on thee same page now.
yeah that just dawned on me, I had forgotten about the new deals for Fabio, Uduka, Bowen, backup PG guy.
the bowen deal is especially aggravating because we could have resigned him last, after we were at or above the cap, using an exception, now we've lost that flexibility.
I think it's pretty obvious that the Spurs don't have and wouldn't have the cap room for a player of GA's caliber. And even if the 08 plan was still in effect we still wouldn't have enough. I guess i should have stated that in my first post. But to say that you wouldn't give him a look just because he hogs the ball on a team full of scrubs is bull . Who else is can carry the wiz kids like GA does? AD, Caron Butler?
But if the opportunity was there I'd take him in a heart beat.
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