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    You give him big minutes in blowouts...

    You have Pop sing his praises about how improved he is...
    Isn't that what the Spurs have been doing the last two years? Hasn't worked yet.

    And that was back when Beno was in halfway decent shape and before he found breakfast tacos and San Antonio's nightlife.

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    Dude...calling me Beno was out of line...
    ROTLFROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL


    Dude I have not laughed so hard about a single spurstalk post in a long time

    props
    this quote alone makes the thread classic forum worthy

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    Isn't that what the Spurs have been doing the last two years? Hasn't worked yet.
    Ehhh....I don't think they actually completely gave up on him till last year...

    It's one thing for him to suck...it's entirely another for him to complain while sucking.





    And that was back when Beno was in halfway decent shape and before he found breakfast tacos and San Antonio's nightlife.

    I agree with that...his shooting sucks now as well...

    But if he wants out...he'll get in shape...keep in mind, he got into good shape to get drafted, and it's a big year for him now.





    Again I ask you...what have the Spurs got to lose by trying it while Pop is in experiment mode during the first 2 months of the season?

    If nothing happens...waive him.

    What have they got to lose?

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    They always kill the trade value of any player that has fallen out of favor with them.
    The Whott does have point here.

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    Dude...calling me Beno was out of line...


    I just realized what I did. It wasn't on purpose.

    I apologize.

    Profusely.

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    Isn't that what the Spurs have been doing the last two years? Hasn't worked yet
    Pop is the guy that screws it up...

    It's so obvious when he doesn't like a player...and every GM in the NBA keys in on it...and stays away out of fear of being made a fool of...


    Pop has to get better at stuff like this...he's the only one that knows how bad Beno is pissing him off.




    Put it this way...if Beno does put up good numbers, he's already made noise about wanting to leave...so it won't be a big surprise if the Spurs start making calls to move him.

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    I just realized what I did. It wasn't on purpose.

    I apologize.

    Profusely.


    Ok then...if you say it was accident I believe you. No hard feelings.


    Edit: You can call me anything else you want...just don't call me a Beno. I'll show you the same consideration. Deal?


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    ROFLROFL


    low blow

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    As far as what the Spurs have to lose ... the answer is not much. That said, the aspects that make Beno untradeable aren't things that can be fixed. He's not going to learn how to handle the ball. He's not going to become dedicated to basketball overnight. His defense isn't going to progress much.

    The Spurs could try the showcase route but I think the damage has been done. I good showcasing would result in the Spurs trading him for a second round pick. That's not much reward for the risk you have in trusting Beno yet again to make progress.

    Waiving him and watching him be shocked that teams aren't lining up to give him starting jobs might be worth the price of eating his contract. Beno is going to face a rude awakening the moment he's no longer property of the Spurs.

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    After the Scola trade, the spurs making another trade that puts them more in a deficit could have dire consequences ~3 seasons down the road. This guy has put us in a lose lose situation.
    Congrats Beno, I hope you are reading this thread, you loser.

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    However, I do agree that the Spurs suck at almost always selling low. I've complained about that for years. Like I've said before, when is the last time the Spurs made a trade in which they traded away a player when their value was at or at least near the highest?

    I seriously don't know the answer to that.

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    Well there's no doubt that Washington has more to offer...

    The Spurs aren't really sold on Vaughn as the back up PG either IMO...

    I definitely want Washington as 3rd string PG after tonights performance.

    The only other negative I could see is that he would need every possible minute of PT he could get...with the team, in the d-league etc...if he's going to be any kind of a contributor this season....

    And showcasing Beno might cut into that PT....


    I still think you know...if Beno could put up some nice numbers, and he has done before...he might develop into a decent trade prospect.

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    You do realize Pop hired him right?

    Oh I get it...it's ok when you criticize Pop...



    old pops won 4 rings, done all hes done, and you guys will still find any little corner to on him.

    Congrats Coyote Jr

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    However, I do agree that the Spurs suck at almost always selling low. I've complained about that for years. Like I've said before, when is the last time the Spurs made a trade in which they traded away a player when their value was at or at least near the highest?

    I seriously don't know the answer to that.

    I don't think they ever have....

    Maybe Malik...

    And Malik was definitely their most successful showcase attempt.


    It's just that Pop is too honest...


    Plus, he's the most hardline coach about playing D in the NBA...by far....

    Pop is just too honest about that stuff...and I know that sounds funny because his nickname is CIAPop...but he doesn't hide his scorn/disdain worth a flip.

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    old pops won 4 rings, done all hes done, and you guys will still find any little corner to on him.

    Congrats Coyote Jr

    Hey dude Pop is the ing man....


    But he doesn't get a free pass for screwups that IMO, cost us a 5th le.



    The funny thing is...Pop the GM is 10 times smarter than Pop the coach is...

    I've never bashed his GM'ing....

    But you have...everytime you rip RC.


    His coaching, is, and remains, a work in progress.


    FWIW...

    Last year was his best coaching job IMO

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    Bill Curley for Sean Elliott? I think that was one of Pop's first moves.

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    Isn't that what the Spurs have been doing the last two years? Hasn't worked yet.

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    Remember 2005/06: it was the year your belowed Nick Van Bust came in town. No showcasing for Beno. He has got few chances last year, he blew most of them...

    Otherwise: waive him, there is a bunch of players (maybe not so talented) just waiting for that kind of opportunity

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    Exactly.




    Nah, I can't buy that. If another team actually offered anything, the Spurs would have shipped him out. The Clipper rumor was to match salaries and the Cleveland rumor would have happened by now if it had any legs.
    The Clipps was legit. There are a couple teams interested in him. Though that was before he broke his finger...haven't heard anything since. (obviously for good reason)

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    Who cares about getting anything for this guy?

    We won't get anything for this guy.

    We don't need anything for this guy.

    We need to be rid of this guy.

    If Cleveland actually wants him, they'll take him off waivers.

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    Beno Udrih = sunk cost

    It's over. You don't lose potential value (D. Washington) because you're fretting about the dumb mistake you made before.

    Don't compound it. Vaya con dios, Beno.

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    Exactly. The only thing keeping Beno in town right now is a guaranteed contract. Even if Washington wasn't in the picture, I'd be calling Mike Wilks right now.

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    I'm not sure that cutting Beno to keep Washington while Spurs are over the luxury tax is a Holt compliant move.
    I'm maybe wrong on that because Spurs have been less cheap than what I've expected numerous times.

    Spurs can too waive Washington to sign him later in the season after a potential Beno trade. The risk that he signed with another nba team seems quite small.

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    I'm not sure that cutting Beno to keep Washington while Spurs are over the luxury tax is a Holt compliant move.
    I agree, but hopefully Darius caught his eye.
    Spurs can too waive Washington to sign him later in the season after a potential Beno trade. The risk that he signed with another nba team seems quite small.
    I guess. I'm to the point where I'd offer him to Cleveland for their trade exception and a future second rounder, then just waive him if they don't bite. I'm not even worried so much about Washington, though he has more upside than the other third string PGs I would want to sign to replace Beno.

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    The funniest thing of all is that given everything that has happened, the Spurs at this time last season still picked up Beno's option and gave him an extra year to the tune of almost $2M. They could have just let it be and he would be gone already, but one good pre-season game against Dallas and he was set for another year.

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    That is an indicator of how difficult it is to find a decent backup point guard in this league. He was the bird in hand.

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