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Boston, the Lakers, the Clippers . . . (and those are just the big market ones)
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Boston, the Lakers, the Clippers . . . (and those are just the big market ones)
I don't think Beno has any trade value whatsoever.
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They got Rondo, and they have Pruitt to develop. Doesn't make much sense to put Beno in there. Especially since Beno isn't going to be doing any scoring on that team and his passing ability isn't much to brag about: 1.7asts to 13 minutes ratio.
They got Farmar, Fisher, and Crittenton. No room there.
They have Knight, Cassell, au, and Diaz. They need help with 3-point shooting, but Beno shot only 28.7% last year. Which is very similar to those whom the Clippers already have, so he doesn't help much there either.the Clippers . . . (and those are just the big market ones)
@ beno trade value.
The salary cap hit would be double whatever salary the Spurs give Washington since they are over the cap. Washington would sign for the min, so the financial hit would be somewhere between 1.5 and 2 mil. If Pop is as high on Washington as he says, I can't believe he wouldn't talk Holt into taking that minuscule hit to rid themselves of a lazy idiot and gain a young player with potential. Maybe Pop doesn't see Washington as having much potential?
I can't wait until the Spurs lose more talent for $!!!!!!1111
I love it when guys who probably don't have $50 in their jeans (combined) start talking about how easy it would be to take a hit for a million or two.
When you're worth $120 million (or whatever - more money than you'll ever be able to spend) and the $2 million might even help your franchise gain more value in return than you're investing... yeah, it's pretty easy.
I have $1200 in the bank, which is certainly not nearly as much as I'll need in life, but I'd willingly donate $20 if they'd drop Beno and sign Darius (if they think Darius has potential).
Most owners don't. The other half of that is "do the spurs believe beno is untradeable?" If they have don't think so, then it's not really a sunk cost.
But if they do believe that they can't move Beno's contract, then there is no logical reason - financially or basketball - to keep him. Sunk costs are sunk.
Can't trade Beno, what NBA team would want him? Besides, ya trade him ya get another player of equal value. Then you are stuck with the same problem, can't sign Washington cause no room on the roster. Only thing the Spurs can do here is to bite the bullet and waive the guy. Best possible scenario, Spurs trade him for cash. Likelyhood - near zero
Best possible scenario is he is traded for an exception. Likelihood - eh, not much though Danny Ferry seems to like him and he does have the exception. Not a huge deal either way. We're talking about losing a 13th man to pick up a 14th man.
Why would anyone want Beno at this point? He's garbage.
The question is whether you just send him back to Slovenia or what. I guess you hold out hope some team loses all its point guards and needs a trade...
The day Beno is no longer a Spur (by whatever means) I seriously think there will be a parade in San Antonio. For all the hate that this guy has generated from his own fanbase, and as little he has contributed to the team, it's amazing to me that he still has a warm place on the bench?
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Beno is an expiring contract, and therefore has some value if the Spurs are willing to take on a contract and give up some cap room next year. That doesn't solve any problems aside from getting Beno out of town, and causes problems down the road.
They can't sign Washington and send him to Austin while they try to move Beno, can they?
Well, they have 18 players under contract now but on the 29th they will have to be at 15 or fewer. That means trading or waiving players to get to that point.
Another thing that hasn't been mentioned in a while is that we could try and swing that infamous 2 for 1, Barry/Beno trade. A pair of expirings would have significant value indeed. And it would allow us to free up a roster spot while also getting a desirable player.
Only if they waive Williams.They can't sign Washington and send him to Austin while they try to move Beno, can they?
Which works for me. The pick was wasted on draft day; there's no point in prolonging the agony.
Eh, Williams is 20. Can't completely write him off anymore than I can coronate Washington.
Marcus Williams is a long term project. And while I think we could have drafted MUCH better at the 33 spot, Williams is what we ended up with. I think the sentiments about Marcus would be much different if we had simply picked him up out of training camp as an undrafted FA and not drafted the guy too high in a deep draft. People would probably be fairly excited about the guy and willing to pay him bottom dollar for him to sit on the IR and develop had he been acquired by another means. While I feel that Williams was an inferior draft choice to many of the passed on available players, I also feel that he is superior to many of the idle free agents out there (speaking purely on unrealized potential). He is not a bad project in that he shows potential in areas of significance (defense) and would fill a position of future need (the wing).
However, while the wing positions are a ticking and aging timebomb, the truth remains that our reserve PG bomb has already detonated. I cannot say whether or not Washington or Williams will be a better longterm project. Both have shown mixed results in limited minutes. And while Darius has had one phenomenal game, he has done little to suggest that he can consistently give such an effort. And while Williams was arguably only the 9th or 10th best player on our summer league team, he has shown a similar willingness to learn through his tenacity in the gym and consistent effort. However, Washington fills a position of more immediate need, since only one of those two timebombs have actually gone off, and therefore should be the priority.
Unfortunately, Williams is unlikely to be waived for a number of reasons. The first and most prominent of which being two-fold in that he is a Spurs draft and the embodiment of Buford's ego. Williams is going nowhere.
This is the reason that Spurs fans are so upset. This disdainful situation could be resolved were it not for Holt's cheapness, Buford's ego or Udrih's slothful disposition to his job. It simply drives me nuts that were it not for all 3 of these positions being in place we could have our cake and eat it too.
completely agreeEh, Williams is 20. Can't completely write him off anymore than I can coronate Washington
If the spurs did not own a D-league team I would say get rid of him, but, this is the whole reason for the purchase is to develop talent and not compete with other teams over free agent players.
That we write such treatises on IR players is a testament to how little is actually wrong with this team. If we think about the real talent level of the players involved and the other players out there that could easily replace them, it's not terribly critical.
But it makes for good arguments.
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