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    Anybody that almost gets a triple double, albeit in preseason, deserves some looking into.

    Beno is the one who should go to make room for Darius, but Williams is the easier one to let go of at this point.

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    That's one possible solution, but you're asking R.C. to "burn one of his picks" in favor of keeping 4 PGs. Don't see that happening.
    The pick they used to get Williams wasn't that valuable to begin with. Probably about 30 percent make it.

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    I still say it's way early to jettison Williams. Need to see if he can develop here. Beno is the one that needs to go. Surely they can find some sucker to take him off their hands.

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    If you want Darius cut Beno and sign

    the Spurs won't sign 4 pg's with other guys like barry or ginobili who can play the point

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    The pick they used to get Williams wasn't that valuable to begin with. Probably about 30 percent make it.
    Less. The bottom third of the FIRST round only land about 15% on a NBA team.

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    solution, but you're asking R.C. to "burn one of his picks"
    RC has been burning picks for 4-5 years now. He should be used to it.

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    RC has been burning picks for 4-5 years now. He should be used to it.
    That's a slam dunk!

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    The pick they used to get Williams wasn't that valuable to begin with. Probably about 30 percent make it.
    That is an average of many years of drafts. What you fail to realize is that the last draft was an exceptionally loaded one. It was one of those drafts that will pull that 30% number UP and increase those percentages. There was talent all over the place. There were players that were more NBA ready and had just as much potential. But instead, we got Marcus Williams, the guy that was getting owned by career summer league invitees.

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    That is an average of many years of drafts. What you fail to realize is that the last draft was an exceptionally loaded one. It was one of those drafts that will pull that 30% number UP and increase those percentages. There was talent all over the place. There were players that were more NBA ready and had just as much potential. But instead, we got Marcus Williams, the guy that was getting owned by career summer league invitees.
    Sums it up, pretty much. I'm STILL surprised they took a stab at Marcus Williams. He didn't fit a need and wasn't that good to begin with.

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    Waive Beno or Trade him for a trade exemption and cut M. Williams and bring Washington in.... This kid has potential and brings different dimensions that may benefit the Spurs. This kids looks hungry for a roster spot and I believe the Spurs should reward him with it.


    M. Williams has not shown s### in the pre-season and is worse on the offensive end then Bowen.

    All Beno has shown is how every year he tends to hurt himself in the pre-season and is a slow recoverer. Cut them both.

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    Waive Beno or Trade him for a trade exemption and cut M. Williams and bring Washington in.... This kid has potential and brings different dimensions that may benefit the Spurs. This kids looks hungry for a roster spot and I believe the Spurs should reward him with it.


    M. Williams has not shown s### in the pre-season and is worse on the offensive end then Bowen.

    All Beno has shown is how every year he tends to hurt himself in the pre-season and is a slow recoverer. Cut them both.

    So long as Washington makes the team I don't care whether or not Williams is cut. He is so cheap and inexpensive that it will do little harm to stick him in Austin for a year and see if he warrants further consideration. I would be more than happy to have Washington, Williams and Mahinmi all in Austin. But if keeping Williams will cost us Washington then I'm not interested.

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    The Spurs had the full 12 man roster returning before they signed Udoka, so it's only possible to maintain rights to two of those players for roster spots 14 and 15 if no other moves are made.
    Last edited by exstatic; 10-21-2007 at 01:05 PM.

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    He didn't fit a need
    yeah the Spurs are loaded with long small forwards.

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    That can't happen. The Spurs had the full 12 man roster returning before they signed Udoka, so it's only possible to maintain rights to two of those players for roster spots 14 and 15 if no other moves are made. Mahinmi, a first rounder, also has a guaranteed 2 year deal, so it's really Washington vs. AZ scrub.
    Sure it can happen. Trade Beno or Barry or both.

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    I think if they had a taker for Beno with no return player, they would have pulled the trigger. Not a real scenario.

    Barry has some value, but again, not many teams with the exception or cap room to send no return player.

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    I think if they had a taker for Beno with no return player, they would have pulled the trigger. Not a real scenario.

    Barry has some value, but again, not many teams with the exception or cap room to send no return player.
    So package Barry and Beno together and do a two for one trade.

    With Udoka on the squad this year minutes at the wing are going to be hard to come by making Barry less effective yet and Beno is a wash no matter what.

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    Barry is not getting traded.

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    yeah the Spurs are loaded with long small forwards.
    He's not a long small forward, dip . He's mostly a SG and isn't any bigger than Bowen.

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    So package Barry and Beno together and do a two for one trade.

    With Udoka on the squad this year minutes at the wing are going to be hard to come by making Barry less effective yet and Beno is a wash no matter what.
    I don't see Barry traded at all. He's retiring as a Spur. Beno won't net anything by himself and won't sweeten the pot for anyone else.

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    Holy .....

    Spurs win so much it gets boring. (not the style... winning-spoiled r we)

    We actually have countless threads about a 4th string PG )

    funny

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    Holy .....

    Spurs win so much it gets boring. (not the style... winning-spoiled r we)

    We actually have countless threads about a 4th string PG )

    funny
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    More importantly, the Clippers are a team in dire need of 3 point shooting. Barry has been on fire all preseason. The tandem of Beno and Barry would give them a couple more ball handlers as well as a deep threat....and both on expiring deals. It sounds like a match made in heaven for the Clippers. Now the only problem is "what do they have that we want?"

    The Clips did go out this offseason and sign a few spare PGs (Dan au, Brevin Knight) so Udrih might simply be redundant. But surely Barry could fill a role on that team quite quickly. And with the signing of Ruben Patterson and the drafting of Al Thornton it looks like Maggette's future is uncertain.

    @ calling Beno a "ball handler"

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    Darius must have made quite an impression huh?

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    This is guy is a star in the making. he has a huge chip on his shoulder, and I think he believes he shouldn't play second fiddle to anyone. I say sign him. with parker and washington and everyone else.......a repeat is in sight.


    what were his stats in greece?

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    This is guy is a star in the making.
    I don't know about that. But I think he could be a really solid 2nd string PG behind Parker. Especially if he can keep his defense at a high level.

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