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Not Duncan.
Which one?
And yeah, it's not difficult answering a question without actually answering anything and instead throwing out a vague hypothetical.
Not Duncan.
Which one?
And yeah, it's not difficult answering a question without actually answering anything and instead throwing out a vague hypothetical.
Can you get any more vague?
Thanks.
Why should I be specific? We haven't even started playing this season yet.
I am being no more vague than you were in stating your hypothetical.
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Or Parker.
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Or Pop.
I'm welcome.
You never said anything about Pop's back next season, so I can't speculate.
Apparently not.
If you have that many bigs PT becomes a huge problem...you definitely want Horry as one of them in that case because he doesn't want or need a lot of minutes. Plus he can do anything you want him to do...he makes good passes, he can block shots, get steals, hit threes...he can also serve as an enforcer.
And he can be used to mentor the Spurs young bigs...
If Elson and Mahinmi both play welll...
Elson will go and Mahinmi will stay.
#1. They are similar players.
#2. If Elson plays well, he's going to be valued at more than just a "reasonable" contract.
#3. Mahinmi will be both younger and cheaper.
#4. Mahinmi potentially fits the Spurs d better. Looks to be a better shotblocker, looks to be a better rebounder.
Splitter's here next season as well. There's no hypothetical to it...you might as well go buy your Splitter jersey now.
I'll sort out Bonner, and Oberto later....
For right now I'll say if all play well, Horry, Mahinmi and Splitter are here for certain.
Elson is out...
I already did, given the vagueness of your hypothetical.
Next season the spurs should sign splitter
What if the following situation plays out:
1) Elson plays as well as expected and can be had for a reasonable contract next summer.
2) Horry again plays well in the playoffs and doesn't want to retire.
3) Mahinmi plays well in Austin and shows good potential.
4) Splitter either has to be brought over or else his contract is automatically extend with Tau (which is actually the case).
5) Oberto and Bonner prove that they are worthy of their contract.
6) Duncan remains Duncan.
What should the Spurs do if all six above points are true next summer? You simply can't have an NBA roster with seven bigmen. Even six is stretching it.
How would you solve that riddle?
Thanks.
Great question, Timvp. My answers below
1) Elson plays as well as expected and can be had for a reasonable contract next summer.
Sign him up.
2) Horry again plays well in the playoffs and doesn't want to retire.
As I've often said, after 2005 NBA Finals versus the Pistons, Horry can stay as long as he wants.Seriously though, I'd be willing to give Horry another year if he wants to come back in 08.
3) Mahinmi plays well in Austin and shows good potential.
At this moment, Ian still looks to be at least another year or two from being a contributing player. Assuming he can't participate for the Toros again in '08, I'd stash him away at the end of the bench for at least another year. Start working him into the full time rotation in '09. With this scenario, I'm assuming Horry will be gone.
4) Splitter either has to be brought over or else his contract is automatically extend with Tau (which is actually the case).
I remember hearing the Splitter's buyout will be considerably less expensive next season than this season, which is why the Spurs elected to wait on him. The Spurs have publicly stated that Splitter will join them next season. No worries there. Bring him aboard. Of course, he will need at least 1 year of acclimation before he can be expected to become an every night contributor. Toros assignment and/or end of bench performer for '08.
5) Oberto and Bonner prove that they are worthy of their contract.Both were resigned for at least the next two seasons. Stay the course with these two.
6) Duncan remains Duncan
TD is the Sun for which the entire Spurs solar system revolves.
Besides, I've already written about which big is to replace whom in the future. In the unlikely event that Horry doesn't want to retire, it's pretty obvious Elson is the odd man out, because you say his replacement is going to be ready to play.
Ya I come up with Elson too...
The funny thing is...he might be the most talented big on the roster after Duncan.
But he's over 30 and if he plays well, the market's idea of a reasonable contract and the Spurs idea of a reasonable contract are likely to be two different things.
Meanwhile...still looking for a young 2 guard.
I dunno...afte pondering Oberto VS Bonner...
Bonner might end up being the oddman out.
He's got a unique skill set, and he hustles, at the same time...he's not a shotblocker at all, and he's too slow to ever be a great defender...
I guess it depends on if Splitter can hit threes.
Right now he can't
Horry will retire or move on. Would be nice if he hung around on the coaching staff.What if the following situation plays out:
1) Elson plays as well as expected and can be had for a reasonable contract next summer.
2) Horry again plays well in the playoffs and doesn't want to retire.
3) Mahinmi plays well in Austin and shows good potential.
4) Splitter either has to be brought over or else his contract is automatically extend with Tau (which is actually the case).
5) Oberto and Bonner prove that they are worthy of their contract.
6) Duncan remains Duncan.
What should the Spurs do if all six above points are true next summer? You simply can't have an NBA roster with seven bigmen. Even six is stretching it.
How would you solve that riddle?
Thanks.
Mahinmi, I'd be amazed if he's ready to play next year for the Spurs. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he was never ready.
Splitter should take a year to learn the system before he's ready for significant minutes.
Oberto and Bonner will man the duties until Splitter and hopefully Mahinmi can.
Tricky one is Elson. If he improves, particularly on the defensive side it will be hard to see him go, given the immaturity of Mahinmi and Splitter but Elson will undoubtedly be looking for a longer term contract, especially if he can cash in on a good year.
... so I just can imagine your riddle unfolding.
I guess I may be overstating the value of a big man's being able to hit the three, but if Bonner is adequate in the other areas I don't see a reason to let him go. Elson's contributions would hopefully be duplicated in part by Ian and Splitter, and long small forward to be named later.
If Horry does retire though, might as well keep the rest. That is the assumption I'll be using until I hear different from Horry. The only thing he has really said is that he'll play for Dallas next season....
ChumpDumper actually answered even though there was supposedly no reason to be specific.
Props to whottt for taking the first step of giving his opinion on the possible scenario . . .
As I said I had already answered this days ago.
Of course if Elson continues to rebound and score at his current rate, we'd be pretty stupid to let him go.
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And why didn't you say that before you said there was no reason to be specific?
What if Elson has a nice year and some team gives him a Mikki Moore type offer?
I said who was replacing whom days ago. The rest is simple math.
And there is no real reason to be specific since your hypothetical was pretty vague -- i.e., if Elson is a 12 and 7 guy in just over 20 minutes a game, that would still fit your hypothetical, but he woule be immensely more valuable to the Spurs than if he was a 5 and 5 guy in 19 -- which could also fit in your hypothetical.
So the answer riddle is "depends." If you care to be more specific what each player actually does this season, then we can narrow it down more. -- but like I said I expect Horry to retire, so it's not a real quandary to me.
We're not WAY too old to have all of them, but we can't be thinking in like 3-4 years that we can win with what will be the geezers that we will have on our team. We've been good enough to win a championship with big men 30-34 years old, but in about 3-4 years they will be 34-38 and no championship team should have their big man rotation consist of guys of that age. Trade Horry and Elson for a young swingman. By that time Barry and Finley should be gone.Which one?
And yeah, it's not difficult answering a question without actually answering anything and instead throwing out a vague hypothetical.
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