Which preseason DIDN'T Beno get hurt?
Cleveland doesn't want a ty point guard.
If somebody wanted him, he would be gone.
He is not a cheap option. I don't understand where this crap comes from.
Tpark, if Pop didn't want him in 05, he wouldn't of extend his contract... WTF? Pop is damn near the CEO of the Spurs and you guys think his secretary RC Buford has pull over him?
quit trying to figure out the inner dwellings of some you have no idea about.
do y'all remember the 05 championship video that there's a special feature that has pop teaching the shot dynamic with Beno?
I can more readily see the Spurs waiving Williams if only because keeping Beno around gives the Spurs a filler for later in the season if a trade has to be made. Beno is probably going to be hard to move by himself, but he will have marginal value with an expiring contract as the season grinds on and the contract has at least some value beyond the minimum to give some useful filler in some kind of trade scenario.
If the Spurs were to keep Darius, is he too old to send to Austin? I don't immediately recall the rules for that sort of thing -- if he can be designated to Austin, keeping him at this point would seem to be a no-brainer.
I think RC has some say so in the organization.Tpark, if Pop didn't want him in 05, he wouldn't of extend his contract... WTF? Pop is damn near the CEO of the Spurs and you guys think his secretary RC Buford has pull over him?
He had enough for Derrick Dial to stay and Raja Bell to be shipped out.
Beno is not getting waived. It's just not happening. The Spurs aren't going to eat that salary, as minuscule as it is, when they have until the trading deadline to dump him. The real problem in trading him is that there aren't very many open roster spots around the league. That, and the fact that he sucks. You would think that they could've forced him down the Rockets throat along with Jackie Butler? I don't even know this front office any more.
I think this is going to come down to a Darius Washington vs. Marcus Williams decision. Given their needs, I don't see how it isn't Washington.
Look in the mirror when you say this. Make sure to tilt it so you can see and not just be eye level with the bottom of the mirror.quit trying to figure out the inner dwellings of some you have no idea about.
Beno's contract was extended due to The 2008 Plan. I'm sure the Spurs figured Beno and Vaughn could handle the backup duties for one more year. After The 2008 Plan was canceled, now Beno's contract looks ridiculous. But at the time, having a point guard on a one-year contract who had experience with the team made more sense than going into the summer looking for a halfway decent guard willing to sign for one year.
Seeing as Parker is the only PG that is healthy apart from Washington it seems like they'd have to keep Washington who knows the system some, at least for awhile, unless Vaughn comes back pretty quick.
The Rockets had and have like 5 point guards.You would think that they could've forced him down the Rockets throat along with Jackie Butler? I don't even know this front office any more.
Rafer Alston, Steve Francis, John Lucas III, Mike James, and the guy they drafted thats escaping my mind.
Why the would they want one suckass gringo stiff?
Any rook can be sent down, I believe. First and second year players, regardless of age. But anyway, Washington is hardly old. I believe he's only 21. He came out after his sop re year, wasn't drafted, and should be a senior now. A year older than Williams, if I'm right.
That and the Spurstalk posters calling in complaining the team was cheap, they decided to not want to field none from Angel about the same subject.Beno's contract was extended due to The 2008 Plan. I'm sure the Spurs figured Beno and Vaughn could handle the backup duties for one more year. After The 2008 Plan was canceled, now Beno's contract looks ridiculous. But at the time, having a point guard on a one-year contract who had experience with the team made more sense than going into the summer looking for a halfway decent guard willing to sign for one year
You think they wanted Jackie Butler and his $3.5M/ year contract?
The nice thing about Darius Washington is he's only 21-years-old. He's only like 10 months older than Marcus Williams.
And although he's played in the preseason before with the Mavs, Washington has never played in an NBA game. This means that Washington would have two full years of eligibility with the Toros.
Vaughn's injury was supposedly minor when it happened. But yeah, if it is worse than the Spurs are letting on, that'd further increase Washington's chances.
They needed bigmen and hes a young one that can score in the post, wich they and Chicago needed desperately next to yao.You think they wanted Jackie Butler and his $3.5M/ year contract?
So yeah I think in a way they did.
He was the reason to match salary, but yeah I think he was wanted and was seen as a need.
Sweet.And although he's played in the preseason before with the Mavs, Washington has never played in an NBA game. This means that Washington would have two full years of eligibility with the Toros.
You could potentially have 3 or 4 future Spurs on the Toros.
That would make the home games in Austin more than worth making the trip.
The Spurs could actually end up with Mahnimi, Washington and Williams on the Toros. However, to make that happen, the Spurs would have to waive Williams. If Washington is waived there's a pretty decent shot he ends up with an NBA team. Even if he doesn't, he'll either get a big offer from Europe or he'd be picked high in the NBDL draft.
Williams, on the other hand, could be waived and then if he enters the NBDL, I'd say there is a really good chance the Spurs/Toros can pick him ... if they still wanted him.
Cavs currently have 11 players under contract and must leave open 2 spots for varajo and Pavolvic. I remember reading in the past that their trade exemption expires by the end of this month if not used. So there are definatly spots availble for Beno but does ferry really want Beno that much is the question?
Reading between the lines...
Washington is an NBA player. Williams is not.
Washington will start a significant basketball career this year... somewhere. Williams may well just get picked back up by the Spurs after waiving, because he's not very good.
The only thing keeping Williams on the roster is the fact the Spurs spent a pretty good pick on him.
Actually, absent Beno being traded or waived, you'd still only have 2 guys there whose rights the Spurs would own. There might be some other guys who the Spurs would be interested in, but only 2 who they could have the exclusive right to recall.
And if Marcus Williams gets waived, I'm not sure that you can assume he'll be loyal to the Spurs, even if he's drafted by or plays for Austin.
Pop very much wanted Beno after he saw him in the Chicago pre-draft camp that summer. There were concerns already even then that Beno did not have any passion for the game, but "sources" in Europe told him that Beno just keeps it inside (apparenlty waaayy inside). I am guessing that Pop does not trust whoever that was that gave him the insight into Beno's personality.
As to the option to pick up Beno, the Spurs honestly did not expect Vaughn to play as well as he did, especially his ability to pick up the defense. They really expected Beno to be the back up this past season, even after everything.
I wouldn't quite make washington a big contrinuter to the spurs quite yet...He has done well in a couple of pre-season games and thats it. I am positive in saying that most of us thought Beno would be an effective NBA PG following his showing his rookie year..
I was counting
Washington, Mahinmi, Williams, and the VERY outside shot, of Sanikidze seeing as he isn't making his German team.
Because he was in semi decent shape, and at the time gave a crap about the game.I am positive in saying that most of us thought Beno would be an effective NBA PG following his showing his rookie year..
Washington seems to have three times the drive, and three times the fire that pussbag does.
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