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    Hey Clam and GGA, you promised you wouldn't tell. Now you
    let the whole world know of our relationship......shame on you!

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    Mike Huckabee’s Phone Call From God

    One of his first acts as governor was to block Medicaid from funding an abortion for a mentally re ed teen-ager who had been raped by her stepfather — an act in direct violation of federal law, which requires states to pay for abortions in cases of rape. “The state didn’t fund a single such abortion while Huckabee was governor,” says Dr. William Harrison of the Fayetteville Women’s Clinic. “Zero.”

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    Mike Huckabee’s Phone Call From God

    One of his first acts as governor was to block Medicaid from funding an abortion for a mentally re ed teen-ager who had been raped by her stepfather — an act in direct violation of federal law, which requires states to pay for abortions in cases of rape. “The state didn’t fund a single such abortion while Huckabee was governor,” says Dr. William Harrison of the Fayetteville Women’s Clinic. “Zero.”
    I would place good odds that there is some truth left out of the story, like nearly all progressive publications do.

    I'm not going to dig into this one, but we still do have some states rights don't we? Are you saying they are all gone?

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    Joe, what makes her ready to be president? Her
    marriage to a president? Or managing his love life?

    Huckabee, makes a lot of sense when I have heard him
    speak. But I really don't know much about the man.
    She's ready and no matter what I say it will not change your opinion of her. Like I said, some just don't like her period. And I can understand that.
    She's been around the block more than a few times and even republicans respect her as a Senator and that is a fact.

    I believe she visited over 80 countries as the First Lady and this does give her experience in meeting and dealing with international leaders. They know her. And she knows the art of politics and to me that is important when it comes to leading a government such as ours.
    While I admit she may not have the hands on experience of other career politicians I have no doubts she'd be a strong leader.

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    "we still do have some states rights don't we"

    You mean like the Repugs taking the 2000 prez election out of FL and to the SC?

    Cherry picking states rights, are you?

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    I see Huckabee continuing to climb in the polls.

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    With Hillary, we're going to get a continuation of GWB's foreign policy, coupled with a domestic policy consisting of more power for the state under the guise of liberal social programs.

    She's the corporate candidate.

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    I see Huckabee continuing to climb in the polls.
    ditto
    HUCKABEES THE MAN

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    With Hillary, we're going to get a continuation of GWB's foreign policy, coupled with a domestic policy consisting of more power for the state under the guise of liberal social programs.

    She's the corporate candidate.
    Isn't that what republicans want?

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    With Hillary, we're going to get a continuation of GWB's foreign policy, coupled with a domestic policy consisting of more power for the state under the guise of liberal social programs.

    She's the corporate candidate.

    Oh, no doubt...Hitlary can't afford to be seen as soft on terra just because she is a woman....so forget withdrawing troops from Iraq anytime soon...but she may not be as gung-ho to get us into another cluster- in Iran...

    ...a withdrawal of some troops is gonna happen one way or the other, we simply cannot sustain this troop level for much longer...but more than likely it happens well before the 08 election so that Republicans can take credit for the short-term success in Iraq...I say short-term because there are no guarantees that U.S. troops won't be 're-surged' into Iraq immediately after the 08 election...

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    FLASHBACK: Huckabee Claimed Jesus ‘On The Cross’ Supported The Death Penalty

    At Wednesday’s CNN/YouTube debate, a questioner asked former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee “what would Jesus do” on the death penalty. He replied:

    You know, one of the toughest challenges that I ever faced as a governor was carrying out the death penalty. I did it more than any other governor ever had to do it in my state. As I look on this stage, I’m pretty sure that I’m the only person on this stage that’s ever had to actually do it. […]

    Jesus was too smart to ever run for public office, Anderson. That’s what Jesus would do.

    Huckabee dodged the question that time. But in 1997, Huckabee claimed that Jesus would have agreed with him on supporting the death penalty. Shortly before a triple execution in Arkansas in Jan. 1997, a caller called into Huckabee’s show on Arkansas Educational Television Network and asking how he squared his Christian teachings with his support for the death penalty. As the Arkansas Times reported on Jan. 22, 1997:

    “Interestingly enough,” Huckabee allowed, “if there was ever an occasion for someone to have argued against the death penalty, I think Jesus could have done so on the cross and said, ‘This is an unjust punishment and I deserve clemency’.”

    Jesus, though, did not ask for clemency. Therefore, according to Huckabee’s logic, Jesus must have been in favor of capital punishment.

    Huckabee also believes God supports Republicans. As ThinkProgress reported yesterday, Huckabee interrupted his speech to the Republican Governors Association in 2004 to answer his cell phone. He proceeded to have a three-minute conversation with God about President Bush’s re-election:

    We’re behind [Bush], yes, sir, we sure are. Yes, sir, we know you don’t take sides in the election. But, if you did, we kind of think you’d hang in there with us, Lord, we really do.


    Matt Taibbi has more on Huckabee’s religious zealotry.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/01/huckabee-jesus/

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    Hick Huck is religious fruitcake and extremist.

    btw, God told me He would take care of Huck and all the other "religious" hustlers later for defiling and trivializing His name for personal gain.
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    The latest Borowitz column has the Huckster running with Jesus....

    Huckabee Chooses Jesus as Running Mate
    Move to Shore Up Evangelical Base
    by Andy Borowitz



    In a bold move that could dramatically alter the playing field of the 2008 G.O.P. presidential race, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee today named Jesus Christ as his vice-presidential running mate.

    Governor Huckabee has made an increasing number of comments about his relationship with Jesus in recent debates, but few Republican insiders expected him to announce that he was anointing Christ as his vice-presidential pick.

    “This could be huge for Huckabee,” said Stenson Partridge, a veteran G.O.P. consultant. “Among Republican voters, Jesus Christ is even more popular than Ronald Reagan.”

    The Reverend Pat Robertson, a supporter of former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani, said he was “blindsided” by the news of Huckabee’s decision: “I talked to Jesus last night and He didn’t mention anything about it.”....

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    The latest Borowitz column has the Huckster running with Jesus....

    Huckabee Chooses Jesus as Running Mate
    Move to Shore Up Evangelical Base
    by Andy Borowitz
    I respectfully decline.

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    Maybe Huckabee has a translation that says to execute the prisoners.

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    I don't understand Huckabee's exegesis. Do they crucify death row inmates in Arkansas?

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    I don't understand Huckabee's exegesis. Do they crucify death row inmates in Arkansas?
    Screw the exegesis (had to look that one up), what about the logic?

    Because Jesus didnt ask for clemency from captial punishment, he endorses capital punishment?

    ?!?!!?

    huh?

    (sorry if I misused your new word)

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    Screw the exegesis (had to look that one up), what about the logic?

    Because Jesus didnt ask for clemency from captial punishment, he endorses capital punishment?

    ?!?!!?

    huh?

    (sorry if I misused your new word)
    I guess I was under the impression that Jesus died on the cross:
    1) To offer propitiation for the sins of mankind
    2) So that in dying he could defeat death

    I wasn't aware it was a tacit endorsement of capital punishment.

    When the early Christian martyrs were killed by the Romans, I guess they too were showing their support for capital punishment.

    This Huckabee guy may be onto something.

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    OK, I feel I know the Bible pretty good, and I cannot think of incidents that the death penalty is reflected upon as appalling in the Bible. In fact, the Bible does say to follow the laws of man someplace, without excluding the death penalty. You can find passages that say "stoned to death" or the likes.

    "Thou shalt not Kill"

    Yea, yea... Heard it a gazillion times...

    The word improperly translated to kill means murder! Not execute!

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    Wild Cobra has the same translation as Huckabee.

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    OK, I feel I know the Bible pretty good, and I cannot think of incidents that the death penalty is reflected upon as appalling in the Bible. In fact, the Bible does say to follow the laws of man someplace, without excluding the death penalty. You can find passages that say "stoned to death" or the likes.

    "Thou shalt not Kill"

    Yea, yea... Heard it a gazillion times...

    The word improperly translated to kill means murder! Not execute!
    So I guess we could reins ute stoning as a means of execution?

    The Bible also seems pretty permissive on slavery.

    Yay theonomy!

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    God loves America!!!

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    Here is something scary - Ole Huckster is clueless to the new NIE report on Iran...

    Huckabee: "“I don’t know where the intelligence is coming from that says that they suspended the program and how credible that is versus the news that they actually are expanding it,” said. “And then I’ve heard the last two weeks supposed reports that say that they are accelerating and could be having a reactor in a much shorter period of time than originally they thought.”
    Huckster obviously watches only Faux News

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    The Huckster also suffers from Willie Horton disease...

    December 4, 2007 11:18 PM

    Little Rock, Ark --
    As governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee aggressively pushed for the early release of a convicted rapist despite being warned by numerous women that the convict had sexually assaulted them or their family members, and would likely strike again. The convict went on to rape and murder at least one other woman.

    Confidential Arkansas state government records, including letters from these women, obtained by the Huffington Post and revealed publicly for the first time, directly contradict the version of events now being put forward by Huckabee.

    While on the campaign trail, Huckabee has claimed that he supported the 1999 release of Wayne Dumond because, at the time, he had no good reason to believe that the man represented a further threat to the public. Thanks to Huckabee's intervention, conducted in concert with a right-wing tabloid campaign on Dumond's behalf, Dumond was let out of prison 25 years before his sentence would have ended.

    ...

    In a letter that has never before been made public, one of Dumond's victims warned: "I feel that if he is released it is only a matter of time before he commits another crime and fear that he will not leave a witness to testify against him the next time." Before Dumond was granted parole at Huckabee's urging, records show that Huckabee's office received a copy of this letter from Arkansas' parole board.
    Huffington

    In 1996, as a newly elected governor who had received strong support from the Christian right, Huckabee was under intense pressure from conservative activists to pardon Dumond or commute his sentence. The activists claimed that Dumond's initial imprisonment and various other travails were due to the fact that Ashley Stevens, the high school cheerleader he had raped, was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton, and the daughter of a major Clinton campaign contributor.

    The case for Dumond's innocence was championed in Arkansas by Jay Cole, a Baptist minister and radio host who was a close friend of the Huckabee family. It also became a cause for New York Post columnist Steve Dunleavy, who repeatedly argued for Dumond's release, calling his conviction "a travesty of justice." On Sept. 21, 1999, Dunleavy wrote a column headlined "Clinton's Biggest Crime - Left Innocent Man In Jail For 14 Years":

    "Dumond, now 52, was given conditional parole yesterday in Arkansas after having being sentenced to 50 years in jail for the rape of Clinton's cousin," Dunleavy wrote. "That rape never happened."

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    more garbage on Huckabee just keeps coming out...

    Personally using Public Money

    Mike Huckabee has a record of dipping into public funds and accepting improper gifts from supporters, something worrisome for a job like president where you control a trillion dollar budget. He was investigated 16 times and cited five times by the Arkansas Ethics Commission for violating ethics rules. Two of those citations were for cash that the governor or his wife accepted but did not report. Huckabee's gifts peaked at $112,000 in 1999, including $23,000 worth of clothing; over half of that was given by one businessman who Huckabee appointed to a state board.

    At one point, Huckabee claimed that he personally owned $70,000 in Governor's Mansion furnishings donated by cotton grower Boe Adams, but was forced to disavow them after Adams said they were for the state, not the governor. After he moved out in December 2006 though, no one could find the furniture even after a state audit. Huckabee's wife insisted they must be there somewhere.

    In 1999, his former administrator at the Goveror's Mansion sued him for abuse of state funds, claiming that Huckabee used state funds for upkeep of the mansion on panty hose, barbecue, a dog house, dry cleaning, boat fuel, and alterations to his clothes. Huckabee settled out of court, by agreeing that legal doubts existed over his use of the fund and that he wouldn't use it for these purposes in the future.

    Huckabee also used state police airplanes as a personal transportation service for him and his family, flying scores of times each year, including trips to other states with early presidential primaries. He claimed this was legitimate for security reasons.

    In 1994, when he was lieutenant governor of Arkansas, Huckabee formed a non-profit organization called Action America, which seemed to exist only to deliver money to him without donors having to report or limit their contributions the way they would a normal political contribution. In 2 and a half years, Action America paid Huckabee over $61,000 just for giving speeches at its events.

    When he was getting ready to move out of the governor's mansion, bridal registries were set up at Dillards and Target for the governor and his wife, who had been married for more than 30 years. They registered for nearly $7,000 in housewares, as well as $1,000 gift cards.

    State ethics laws prohibited the Huckabees from receiving gifts of more than $100 as a reward for doing his job. But there was an exception for wedding presents.

    Maybe it's just an Arkansas tradition -- Bill and Hillary Clinton registered for house gifts when they left the White House. An investigation found that they received over $75,000 worth of gifts but did not violate any federal laws. - publicmoney Sources
    Real Change


    A Quick and Petty Anger

    Mike Huckabee has stood out in this election for his consistently positive, upbeat performancs on TV and in debates. Those who have know him longer know a different side -- a vindictive, thin skinned anger. Since the president is the one we look to in time of crisis, this is a serious concern.

    One quick example; as he was leaving office, Huckabee directed that a bunch of money that the legislature allotted for other programs be shifted to pay for a new faculty position at the University of Arkansas Medical School, named for the doctor who helped him lose 110 pounds. Legislators questioned the legality of this move, and even the medical school president suggested it might be better to do this the right way, by asking the legislature to approve the change. (This all happened just days before a new legislative session opened.) Huckabee got mad and cancelled all of the spending.

    And shortly before leaving office, Huckabee took all of the money in the governor's emergency fund and spent it destroying the hard drives of over 100 computers in the governor's office, to protect what he called "the privacy" of the contents. The new governor literally had to find and spend $335,000 just to replace the hard drives and computers destroyed. And he still had not a penny in the emergecy fund -- designed to pay for extra expenses during hurricanes, torados, etc. -- for the last six months of the fiscal year. fiscal year.
    - Thin Skin Sources

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    Huckabee just has so much baggage that keeps coming out; it's hard to see how he could overcome all of it even if he comes up big in Iowa.

    Although a few friends of mine and people who go to my church like Huckabee because he plays the Jesus card. And I always say, "Um, judge a tree by its fruits, right? Remember the Pharisees praying in public, and all that implies?"

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