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    memo to ray democrats have been partly responsible for making this country great.

    Yeah, you got it party right. The Democrats. But not the
    dimm-o-craps of today. You are of course referring to
    the olden times, right?

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    Yeah, you got it party right. The Democrats. But not the
    dimm-o-craps of today. You are of course referring to
    the olden times, right?

    I take that as a yes.

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    There is one thing I know for 100% fact. not everyone is right all of the time including myslef. I don't have much repsect for people who think they are always right. Most problems could be solved if both sides decided to meet in the middle. people like yoni and ray want everything solved the conservative way. well that's not possible because the majority of americans aren't as beholden to that ideology. i am perfectly comfortable with sitting down with a conservative and hammering our a deal where neither side gets all they want but they do get enough to be satisfied. I wish washington was more like this. the ideologues on both sides don't undserstand that thier respective beliefs will not dominate this country. This is part of the reason why i believe that talk radio is just as responsible for dividing this country as anything that has happened over the last 20 yrs. They preach ideology without regard to compromise. They preach how eveil the other side is and how they despise this country. That is just plain wrong and those who believe it are done a disservice. I think we can both agree that there are folks who listen to hush's show and members of moveon.org who are harmful to this country as a whole.
    No. I get you; it's just it was such a fat one right over the plate. I had to.

    Also, even if I were to compromise with someone on a point somewhere between two extremes doesn't change the fact that I'm right and he's wrong; it just means I had to do what I had to do.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    No. I get you; it's just it was such a fat one right over the plate. I had to.

    Also, even if I were to compromise with someone on a point somewhere between two extremes doesn't change the fact that I'm right and he's wrong; it just means I had to do what I had to do.

    I agree.

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    Searched the phrase, "I was wrong," under user "Yonivore," and eleven threads were returned:

    Examples.

    Post #8 in the thread led: "Former CIA Chief George Tenet Calls War In Iraq 'Wrong',":

    "No, I didn't make it up and, yes, I was wrong."
    Post #1 in the thread led: "Bin Laden Video To Americans"

    "(I guess I was wrong about him being dead -- damnit!)."
    Post #6 in the thread led: "Hey Yoni..."

    "But, I'm not going to complain. Bush won, and he'll be inaugurated in January. I was wrong about the landslide -- boo freakin' hoo. Gimme my vBucks!"
    That's just using the phrase "I was wrong." There are many ways in which that can be said...so, I'm going to go out on a limb and declare your 100% assertion completely bogus.

    Amazingly, the same search criteria, applied to your logon, only returned five threads. And, one of them is you quoting me saying I was wrong.

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    Searched the phrase, "I was wrong," under user "Yonivore," and eleven threads were returned:

    Examples.

    Post #8 in the thread led: "Former CIA Chief George Tenet Calls War In Iraq 'Wrong',":



    Post #1 in the thread led: "Bin Laden Video To Americans"



    Post #6 in the thread led: "Hey Yoni..."


    That's just using the phrase "I was wrong." There are many ways in which that can be said...so, I'm going to go out on a limb and declare your 100% assertion completely bogus.

    Amazingly, the same search criteria, applied to your logon, only returned five threads. And, one of them is you quoting me saying I was wrong.
    Well played.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    It's even better. In none of the five posts returned is he admitting he was wrong.

    In two, he's quoting someone else admitting they were wrong (me and 101A). In the other three, he's being sarcastic or snide, (i.e. "And you have asked me to admit I was wrong and should be embarassed?", his post #28 in the thread led, "Democratic war is on...")

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    I have this vision of George frantically searching various combinations of error admission along with his name.

    "Damnit, I'm sure I've admitted I was wrong somewhere..."


    Pwned << (Did I do that right?)

    Oh, wait! There's an emoticon for it -

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    "I was mistaken"

    Yonivore - 1 thread.

    George Gervin's Afro - 0 threads.

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    "I apologize"

    Yonivore - 11 threads.

    George Gervin's Afro - 1 thread and, again, he's being sarcastic.

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    George went silent... :::chirp::: :::chirp:::

    He can't even admit he's wrong in a thread about who admits they're wrong.
    Last edited by Yonivore; 11-09-2007 at 12:52 PM.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I have this vision of George frantically searching various combinations of error admission along with his name.




    Pwned << (Did I do that right?)

    Oh, wait! There's an emoticon for it -

    I am sorry I am going to have to prove myslef to a blog stealer? someone who passes on other''s words as mine?

    trust me yoni i do not sweat you or any of your plagerized posts.



    the most recent time i admitted you were right was in dealing with the affects of pelosi's brining up the armenian/turkish resolution. you mentioned that this was one of the causes of the turks responses. i disagreed however when i found an article proving that you were right i posted it. you then commended me for my honesty. so which is it am i honest or not? did you search using you were right? i was mistaken, etc..


    but,but,but i never admitted i was wrong when you searched for the 'wrong'....



    now you are going to be using my words literally? are we going to start using that standard now? the literal use of verbiage?


    i want to hear from you that you pledge to only post only literally speaking rather than using " the dems are surrendering' language. when i ask you to find those words you simply say "well that's their intent'.. so which is it? or do you want ot have it both ways?

    so i see how you look at things now. you hold me to a different standard than you hold yourslef to.

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    George went silent... :::chirp::: :::chirp:::

    He can't even admit he's wrong in a thread about who admits they're wrong.
    I rest my case.

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    I am sorry I am going to have to prove myslef to a blog stealer? someone who passes on other''s words as mine?

    trust me yoni i do not sweat you or any of your plagerized posts.



    the most recent time i admitted you were right was in dealing with the affects of pelosi's brining up the armenian/turkish resolution. you mentioned that this was one of the causes of the turks responses. i disagreed however when i found an article proving that you were right i posted it. you then commended me for my honesty. so which is it am i honest or not? did you search using you were right? i was mistaken, etc..
    "I was mistaken" but not, "Your were right." Hang on, be right back...

    Hey, you're the one that said I never admitted I was wrong. I proved it...and, in doing so, could find no instance where you said you were wrong.

    But, hang on, saying "you were right," is a good search...be right back.

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro




    hey gee Yoni always wins. he declares himself the winner all of the time.


    yonivore

    Hey, if he gives up...

    And, I thought you had a good memory...you even said so in that other thread where you're kind of stalkerishly fawning all over me. Personally, I don't recall having declared victory in an argument on here unless, as in this case, the other poster just simply gives up.

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    but,but,but i never admitted i was wrong when you searched for the 'wrong'....

    now you are going to be using my words literally? are we going to start using that standard now? the literal use of verbiage?

    i want to hear from you that you pledge to only post only literally speaking rather than using " the dems are surrendering' language. when i ask you to find those words you simply say "well that's their intent'.. so which is it? or do you want ot have it both ways?

    so i see how you look at things now. you hold me to a different standard than you hold yourslef to.
    Okay, on this last part...it is my opinion that you're officially ed in the head.

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    Quote:
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    What does all that even mean?

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    Look, it's real easy George.

    I admit it, I was wrong. Yonivore has said he was wrong before. In fact, he's said it in several threads. So, I was wrong when I said he never admits he is wrong...100% of the time.
    Is that so hard that you have to reduce yourself to incoherent spittle-strewn babbling?

    eh, maybe so.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Okay, on this last part...it is my opinion that you're officially ed in the head.

    what don't you get? you are taking me literally, for which I am ok with. If you are going to create that expectation for anyone else then you need to follow suit. From now I expect you to produce explicit statments rather than your opinion. So more "dems are surrendering' language from you. If you can't find those exact words don't post they are surrendering because they neve spoke those words.

    I'll just remind you everytime you post that I would like to see those exact words spoken if you can't then I will just raise my hand in victory.

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    "You were right" - George Gervin's Afro said it one time...in this thread.

    "You are right" - George Gervin's Afro posted it once but, he was quoting xrayzebra.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Quote:
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    I see. Well, your mocking required you to retain information about me that verges on obsession. , I don't know what your opinions are about anything from thread to thread. This is a venue in which I respond to the posts in an individual thread based on the face value of the words to which I'm responding.

    I mean, to know that I made a characterization about people who vote for the "lesser of two evils" way back when we were talking about the 2004 election is kind of freaky, if you ask me. I don't even remember posting that. I do, however, seem to recall stating an opinion on so-called "moderates" but, I'm not sure it's that to which you're referring.

    I would ask you to produce the post and we could dissect how you either mischaracterized what I actually said or we could marvel -- and be a little creeped out -- at how ing dead on right you were.

    You pick. Frankly, I don't care.

    so you are being a hypocrite again? I do have a good memory and from now on I will be happy to produce your own words to prove you have double standard and and you are an admitted hypocrite.

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    what don't you get? you are taking me literally, for which I am ok with. If you are going to create that expectation for anyone else then you need to follow suit. From now I expect you to produce explicit statments rather than your opinion. So more "dems are surrendering' language from you. If you can't find those exact words don't post they are surrendering because they neve spoke those words.
    But, we weren't talking about you. We were resolving the issue of whether or not you were wrong when you claimed I never admitted I was wrong.

    Finding that I said admission phrases (in the context of my actually admitting error) way more than you, (where I've yet to find it in the context of you admitting error) was just a bonus.

    I'll just remind you everytime you post that I would like to see those exact words spoken if you can't then I will just raise my hand in victory.
    Whatever floats your boat.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    "You were right" - George Gervin's Afro said it one time...in this thread.

    "You are right" - George Gervin's Afro posted it once but, he was quoting xrayzebra.

    so you were wrong again?

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    so you are being a hypocrite again? I do have a good memory and from now on I will be happy to produce your own words to prove you have double standard and and you are an admitted hypocrite.
    What is your point here? What are you trying to prove? Please, be explicit because you're making absolutely no sense anymore.

    Did I claim you didn't have a good memory? What's the double standard?

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    I haven't been wrong on this topic yet.

    I've yet to find a place (except for this thread) where you admitted you were wrong. Period.

    Obversely, I've found several and quoted three where I explicitly admitted I was wrong.

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