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Your argument doesn't really apply to Timmy... and despite all the hype arround Kobe and James I can't remember them being MVP.
Letīs be honest,the reg season MVP is the guy who sales more jerseys at the stores.(Meaning:Garnet,Kobe,James,Nash,Dirk,D Wade, Duncan, etc)
Your argument doesn't really apply to Timmy... and despite all the hype arround Kobe and James I can't remember them being MVP.
what Iīm triyng to say is that popular players will have more chances to win the MVP tham underrated bench players.
That's just marketing business.
This is the greatest quote ever. I'm starting a Scalabrine for MVP website as we speak.what Iīm triyng to say is that popular players will have more chances to win the MVP tham underrated bench players.
That's just marketing business.
The "All-Decline Team" was based of "Projected PER", which K-State Spur stated correctly is a mathematical equation without any subjectivity.
I think Ginobili WOULD be on the decline if he continued to play the same herky jerky, slasher style that he used in his early 20s....but like Hollinger points out, Ginobili has become adept at knocking down set three-point shots and step-back threes. He has expanded his game to increase his effective basketball shelf-life.
It should also be noted that Ginobili took the summer off for the first time in years and has come into the season pain free and with more energy than ever before.
Bottom Line: With Ginobili well rested and armed with an expanding offensive repertoire, I look for him to continue the strong start well into the season.
And Hollinger has a right to be suprised....so am I. Very pleasantly suprised.
Not really, the one that you mention that the great Reggie should be the clutchiest players ever is the greatest quote ever.
Well, you was never one to accept nba autority without question, bro.
You're right. Maybe someone should tell the NBA that Manu's legendary exploits in the clutch haven't been included on their Greatest 60 playoff moments, and that this must be a mistake because Manu is the clutchiest player ever, 100 million times greater than Reggie who for some reason is considered one of the more clutch players this league has ever seen but shouldn't be because he never won a ring. Reggie's definitely should have beat Shaq and Kobe in 2000. Lord knows the Spurs tore that team a new a-hole whenever they played them. Why, if that Spurs team had Manu, they would've swept the regular season and the playoffs.
Don't mind ArgSpursFan. he's applying for the Archbishop position in the Church of Manu, and someone must have told him he hasn't done enough preaching yet
Not really.I don't really care if He gets any personal awards or not in the NBA.
As long as He keeps winning championships in the NBA and next year we're able to repeat in the Olympics,I'm cool with it.
But I just don't think Reggie Miller is on Manu's same level of chutchness ,coze He never played an NBA final or played a game for an Olympic Gold medal,that's all.
Christ! you DO realize Manu is playing with perhaps the GREATEST FORWARD TO EVER PLAY THE GAME!!! right? That fact doesn't escape your grasp, right? Who did Reggie Miller play with that even comes close to Duncan?? Manu is clutch, but until he does something along the lines of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtPaMgyz4ec, lets not insult Reggie, shall we!!?
Um, you might wanna recheck your NBA Finals history, buddy.
I can't believe I didn't catch thatUm, you might wanna recheck your NBA Finals history, buddy.
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yeah,you didn't catch it coze you didn't know about it.I can't believe I didn't catch that
I don't know why you speak as you know that much about him thought,I guess is just more of you trash talking thought
Manu's passing this season has seriously impressed me. He's always been good at getting others involved, but this season I find myself saying "Wow" to his crazy passes more so than he's crazy shot attempts!
ok your point made no sense...how can u uses parker and duncan against manu but you cant use allen and pierce for kg?? please explain...i think if cleveland makes it in top 4 and lebron post numbers similar to last year...he wins it...but id love to see manu win it
this is what I mean by clutch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Mg6Zj2P7w
no, I actually thought you wrote he never won an NBA finals as opposed to Manu who has three rings. Point of fact, I didn't watch those finals, but at least I know who's been to the finals in the last couple of decades bro. Besides, we're not talking ancient history here if you get what I'm sayingyeah,you didn't catch it coze you didn't know about it.
I don't know why you speak as you know that much about him thought,I guess is just more of you trash talking thought
oh just give it up! for every clutch Manu moment you come up with, you'll get three Reggie classics. Don't be stupid! I love Manu as well, but Reggie under pressure? not even close
Guess the results then didn't matter 'cause all those events happened B.M. - Before Manu.I can't believe I didn't catch that
Actually I knew Reggie never won an NBA championship,I just didnt recall him playing an NBA Final game.
But Still 0 championships vs 3 championships.
That's an excellent clip of Manu's performance in a NBA playoff or Finals game. You got me. Manu is the most supercalaclutchilistic dude ever. He s game winning baskets. Just don't ask him not to foul a shooter when you have the lead in a game 7 and a win sends you to the Finals. Maybe he fouled Dirk just to prove that he's even more clutch.
that's cool,that's just your opinion,like I have mine though.
we actually don't have to agree on anything.
I love reggie and ,but Manu,in my opinion, is on a diferent level.
You pretty much put it all together as it is. Unfortunately they MVP trophy is a popularity contest and it usually goes to individuals who score a lot of points. It's very flashy.
They need to come up with another trophy that makes more sense and shows performance as a whole - something like that would suit people like Ginobili well and it would make more sense. Ginobili right now is probably the best player in the NBA all combined - if he is not he is top 3 at least.
I don't see MVP happening for Ginobili but if we get to the finals and win it again, I can see him getting MVP finals at last provided the voters get their heads out of their asses, not like in 2005 when he deserved it but didn't get it.
Last year it was Parker and although I was happy for the guy I was very frustrated Ginobili didn't get it 2 years before who knows why. The 2005 finals were way more challenging than 2007's and that talks a lot about what you need to do to be a finals MVP. Parker had a much easier time going after the Cavs who had no real challenges for him at the PG position. We all knew before the finals started that the Cavs had no way to stop Tony from scoring 30+ points a night and just kill them again and again and again.
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