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    What remains to be seen is what the Spurs do with the 'flexibility' they gained with that horrid trade. They will need to find a replacement swingman soon with Finley and Barry nearing the end of their careers and their contracts ending after this season.

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    well,the Rockets are better with Scola tham without him.
    And that´s bad business for the spurs.

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    "But recent days also suggest they will have a few more things to argue about. Luis Scola showed the Spurs what they had given to Houston, and Beno Udrih showed what Spurs' scouts always thought was possible."

    I have mixed emotions about them (Luis and Beno), I'd like they could get what they deserve, but at the next second I don't care since they aren't in spurs uniform anymore.

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    Scola's contract is bigger than Bonner's one : Scola costs $10M/3 years (including $500K given directly to Tau) while Bonner costs $9M/3 years.
    WTF . The difference is only what? $1M/3 yrs.
    And we got rid Butler for what to re-signed another scrub for 3 yrs (Bonner).

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    I never saw anybody saying Beno didn't have any talent.
    Actually everybody said that Beno was very talented
    You must have not been paying attention There was a whole thread where people kept coming in and saying they never saw any NBA level talent in Beno.

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    I've watched most of Beno's games with the Kings and I'm still not impressed.

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    There was a slim chance to have Scola as a Spur. That's the truth. I'm sure they tried everything they could without dismantling or jeopardizing what they currently have and future plans. The buyout clause was the main obstacle and then Scola was about to get an extension which would have meant the end of his possibility to ever come to the US. At the end of the day, they had to release him and create some room for the future. Yes, a direct opponent now has him on its roster but on the other hand you maintain yours and create a better situation for the future.

    All the talks about how good he is (which he is) and that being bad for the spurs is BS, look at Boston now and other teams. Those things you can't prevent and there are there. The Scola situation was just very difficult and I'm sure they thought it out very well. If you don't believe me just watch what the rockets GM said about everything.

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    Beno has talent, but the sample size with the Kings is too small right now, and the chances of that team actually playing a meaningful game this season is really low. I think he would choke if he actually found himself in a meaningful game.

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    Does this mean Pop and Buford soap each other's s and feed each other baklava?
    No, you've got it backwards; it's the Mavs who've been copying the Spurs.

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    Guess all those who claimed Beno did not have any talent can eat their words today.
    Yes, why don't you link all those threads where people said Beno did not have any talent?

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    99% of Spurs fans have said all along that Beno has talent. There were two maybe three Spurs fans that said they didn't see the talent.

    That's why moving Jackie Butler meant so much last summer. They had made a mistake on him, and they needed to trade the $5 million they owed him.
    The Spurs owed him $2.3M. The $2.7M third year of the contract was unguaranteed.

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    best for scola and udrich

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    Everything else on the side of the FO is just rationalizing a screw up, by the division rival part alone. I'm actually glad Pop is displeased on their mistake, shows they're self-aware, and not deluded in hindsight.



    Money can affect any marriage, and Peter Holt's lack of it does. He ranks at the bottom of NBA owners in personal wealth, with an estimated worth of merely $30 million. Popovich and Buford work within his budget.
    Can anyone clarify if that's a typo or not?

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    Can anyone clarify if that's a typo or not?
    That's correct. Holt is one broke ass .

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    You must have not been paying attention There was a whole thread where people kept coming in and saying they never saw any NBA level talent in Beno.
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    Ploto,Most spurs fans were pissed at Beno actually because everybody knew He was VERY talented.
    When you know a guy can play,and dont do much about getting better and getting with the system,of course it's gonna piss everybody off.
    Beno needs to grow up,that's the bottonline.Maybe finding a good wife would help him out as far as work ethics go and trying to get to the next level.
    I wish him well with the Kings though.

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    The Spurs owed him $2.3M. The $2.7M third year of the contract was unguaranteed.



    Hi-OOOOO!!!!

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    Listing of the net worth of the NBA's owners as compiled by USA Today Sports. I do not vouch for it's accuracy.

    Owner Team Net worth
    Paul Allen Portland $20 billion
    Micky Arison Miami $5.3 billion
    Rich DeVos Orlando $3 billion
    William Davidson Detroit $2.8 billion
    Glen Taylor Minnesota $1.8 billion
    Melvin Simon Indiana $1.6 billion
    E. Stanley Kroenke Denver $1.4 billion
    Mark Cuban Dallas $1.3 billion
    Herb Simon Indiana $1.2 billion
    Michael E. Heisley Memphis $850 million
    Robert Johnson Charlotte $750 million
    Howard Schultz Seattle $700 million
    Donald Sterling L.A. Clippers $500 million
    Cablevision New York $494 million
    Larry Miller Utah $480 million
    Dan Gilbert Cleveland $478 million
    Bruce Ratner New Jersey $400 million
    Robert Sarver Phoenix $400 million
    Jerry Buss L.A. Lakers $380 million
    Wyc Grousbeck Boston $360 million
    Chris Cohan Golden State $325 million
    Ed Snider Philadelphia $310 million
    Steve Belkin Atlanta $300 million
    Maple Leaf Sports Entertainment Toronto $297 million
    Jerry Reinsdorf Chicago $280 million
    Herb Kohl Milwaukee $279 million
    Abe Pollin Washington $180 million
    George Shinn New Orleans $100 million
    Joe Maloof Sacramento $100 million
    Gavin Maloof Sacramento $100 million
    Leslie Alexander Houston $80 million
    Peter Holt San Antonio $80 million

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    Once upon a time nearly the entire forum was supportive of losing talent over $. A few were not.

    Welcome aboard.

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    @ anyone who thinks owners shouldn't be involved in their businesses. Every owner cares about the bottom line, why should the Spurs be any different?

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    So we're fans of the P&L statement and not the game. Grand.

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    You're only a fan of your own ing as far as I can tell.

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    Sometimes. Depends on the drink.

    Anyways, the forum has finally seen the light.

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    Until the next bad Scola game, at least.

    This is the NBA and it's how teams are run. All of them.

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    I have zero problems with Holt setting a ceiling on spending similar to what almost all other owners ceilings are and then holding the front office accountable for mistakes in signings.Whoever is assessing talent has done a sub par job since the Parker drafting.

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    Yes, why don't you link all those threads where people said Beno did not have any talent?
    Wow. The Kings are going after San Antonio's table scraps. Looking for inside information? Because they couldn't be after his "talent".
    I never saw where this "talent" was either. He liked to go to his left, stop, and shoot the jumper. He had trouble bringing up the ball under pressure. He wasn't a good passer.

    He did have bad work ethic, but I don't think it was hiding all of his "talent."
    I never thought the talent and skills were there in the first place. He was good for the first few months of his rookie season, but as soon as teams had a chance to find his many weaknesses and scout him, and then exploit those weaknesses, he was really not that good.

    What I am trying to say is that he would of needed the work ethic of Michael Jordan to turn into even a marginal starting PG. The base, the skills required to be a success in the NBA were just never there in my opinion just as I said when I listed his strengths and weaknesses earlier, which I think were pretty hard to argue or disagree with.

    All NBA players are capable of having games where they look like a star, it doesn't mean they have the talent to perform like that every game, even if they worked hard.

    He has shown a sweet stroke, but outside of that, i'm not sure about his talent and skills.
    Need more??

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