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Whoa....spurs talk has turned into 2+2
Yeah instead of writing D's and S's write diamonds and spades for hte people who are dumb thanks in advance.
Whoa....spurs talk has turned into 2+2
Manny, there was no flush draw at all, there was a straight draw with 2 on the turn, if they had 45, not likely though. I wanted them to have a big pair, because I had them crushed if that is what they had. I love suited aces in a multi way pot if the ace's kicker is 2,3,4 or 5...(a draw to a wheel)
Manny I liked the river, because I really had him on 6-3 after his call on the turn. You do not know how many different and crappy hands are played in the groups of guys I play with. They can have just about anything preflop, especially if there are 4 or 5 in the pot. I play with a bunch of Sammy Farhas, who will play anything. They are good players because they will not continue to play the hands unless they flop monsters(like I did) or some draw to a monster.
I think I played it ok, but just got unlucky to run into one of only 2 hands that had me crushed(AA, 66), after the river.
Last edited by Jimcs50; 11-26-2007 at 03:53 PM.
What do you guys mainly play at casinos, cash games or tourneys? I do so much better when I play cash games.
I have only played in 2 tourneys at casinos besides the WSOP last year. I made Final table both times, so I like tourneys, but cash games are good because you are not just stuck playing one place all night. Both times I played in tourneys, I played at least 6 hrs, so you better have nothing to do for a long time if you play a tourney.
But I thought you were the (book) smartest person on the board! Just kidding, I actually like you, E20.
Thanks Manny, and you're right, you play the turn because most times you're leading. However, pre-flop raise to thin the field is a bit dodgy with 9-10 suited, no? You also have to worry about the buttons, so that's 4 potential callers of your semi-bluff, and you'd need to bet $40+ to give yourself a decent chance of pushing the others out (typical pre-flop raises in that game were $15-35).
And no, in America there are bad beat jackpots, out here no such luck.I've explained how cheap that is to the pit bosses, and they agree, but the casino is stingy. US Casinos >>>>>>>>>>> Oz Casinos
Limpers suck. Calling isn't BAD per say its just not the best play imo. If you raise you take the lead in the hand and you don't need to hit to win. You have position and a very nice hand so I see no reason to play it weakly. Aggression gives you opportunities to win pots you would otherwise not win. It also helps build a bigger pot which helps when playing draws. I really just don't like passive play though. Raising with these hands helps disguise my other hands as well against semi lucid opponents.But I thought you were the (book) smartest person on the board! Just kidding, I actually like you, E20.
Thanks Manny, and you're right, you play the turn because most times you're leading. However, pre-flop raise to thin the field is a bit dodgy with 9-10 suited, no? You also have to worry about the buttons, so that's 4 potential callers of your semi-bluff, and you'd need to bet $40+ to give yourself a decent chance of pushing the others out (typical pre-flop raises in that game were $15-35).
And no, in America there are bad beat jackpots, out here no such luck.
I just remembered another one from my last trip to America.
I was playing the $65 midday tournament at the MGM Grand, generally 80 to 100 players, doing quite well at the start of the third level with about 6,000 chips and a nice strong table image from turning over winning cards.
Last hand I had won 1500 off the guy to my left, now the small blind with about 5000 chips.
I was on the button, picked up JJ, one caller mid-table, I raised to 800 and small blind called after a lot of thought. Other caller then folded.
J 6 3 rainbow
Trips!I bet 1200, he raises all in and I call in an instant. He flips over AJ offsuit.
What were the turn and river?
Very true.
it'd be nice to have another spurstalk poker tourney.
What site you playing at now Manny?
Full Tilt and Stars only. The games suck now. you Bill Frist.
Yea man... the whole absolute "potripper" scandal isnt helping very much
Donk: Man I took a bad beat.
Me: Uh huh *oh god please don't tell me a bad beat story, I hate bad beat stories.*
Donk: Well, see I had 66.
Me: ok * he's going to tell me he took a bad beat*
Donk: Ok, so I move all in with 66 and this guy calls me..
Me: *Must have lost to A5-A2 or a smaller pp*
Donk: He calls me with AK!!!!
Me: *it was a ing coin flip you funking donkey, probably a tournament too, the AK call was super standard, a;lkruaowign40[gho*
Donk: He hit the luckiest K ever.
Me: That sucks.
Read mine, they were REAL bad beat stories, especially the quads beaten by straight flush. I looked up the numbers on that one and I think it was 260,000-1.
I just remembered another one from my last trip to America.
I was playing the $65 midday tournament at the MGM Grand, generally 80 to 100 players, doing quite well at the start of the third level with about 6,000 chips and a nice strong table image from turning over winning cards.
Last hand I had won 1500 off the guy to my left, now the small blind with about 5000 chips.
I was on the button, picked up JJ, one caller mid-table, I raised to 800 and small blind called after a lot of thought. Other caller then folded.
J 6 3 rainbow
Trips!
What were the turn and river?
I guess runner runner aces?
Played last night in a game that is pretty much a tough group that plays on Tuesdays.
No bull , in 2 hrs of playing, I got pocket aces 4 times, pocket kings 4 times and Qs twice....the odds of this are astronomical, considering the odds against getting AA is 220-1, and I only played probably 40-50 hands in that 2 hrs.
Unfortunately, my aces got cracked two times to fluhes and straights. My kings got cracked 3 times to straights and one flush.
But my bad beat story is my last hand of the night.
I rebought for $200 after I lost my first $200 with my pocket aces against a straight on the turn.
1-2 no limit game
I had $230 in front of me in middle position(10 handed) Cy, who is very very loose and agressive opened under the gun for $22 (his usuall raise), everyone folded to me, I knew Cy did not have a premium hand, and when I looked at my cards and saw QQ, I knew I had his ass. I reraised him to $100.(tired of having my premium hands cracked) Everyone folded to him and the er called me.
Flop was 2-3-4 rainbow.
Cy checked.
I knew he could have called preflop with someting like A-(2-3 or 4), so I pushed the rest of my $130 all in.
Cy asked me what I had and went on and on about wanted to raise me(but I did not have any more chips and he knew that) He asked me if I had aces, blah blah blah.
I knew that I had his ass beat, because otherwisw he would have insta-called me.
Well he called and showed 5-6 clubs for the Nuts. I caught a meaningless Q on the river for trips.
What kind of idiot calls a 425% raise with 5-6 when he knew he was a 4.5-1 dog against any overpair, and knowing that I had only $230, where at best he would only get 2-1 on his money? I was pissed and just went home and kicked the dog.
Why do I play this game?
Sounds like you got slowrolledPlayed last night in a game that is pretty much a tough group that plays on Tuesdays.
No bull , in 2 hrs of playing, I got pocket aces 4 times, pocket kings 4 times and Qs twice....the odds of this are astronomical, considering the odds against getting AA is 220-1, and I only played probably 40-50 hands in that 2 hrs.
Unfortunately, my aces got cracked two times to fluhes and straights. My kings got cracked 3 times to straights and one flush.
But my bad beat story is my last hand of the night.
I rebought for $200 after I lost my first $200 with my pocket aces against a straight on the turn.
1-2 no limit game
I had $230 in front of me in middle position(10 handed) Cy, who is very very loose and agressive opened under the gun for $22 (his usuall raise), everyone folded to me, I knew Cy did not have a premium hand, and when I looked at my cards and saw QQ, I knew I had his ass. I reraised him to $100.(tired of having my premium hands cracked) Everyone folded to him and the er called me.
Flop was 2-3-4 rainbow.
Cy checked.
I knew he could have called preflop with someting like A-(2-3 or 4), so I pushed the rest of my $130 all in.
Cy asked me what I had and went on and on about wanted to raise me(but I did not have any more chips and he knew that) He asked me if I had aces, blah blah blah.
I knew that I had his ass beat, because otherwisw he would have insta-called me.
Well he called and showed 5-6 clubs for the Nuts. I caught a meaningless Q on the river for trips.
What kind of idiot calls a 425% raise with 5-6 when he knew he was a 4.5-1 dog against any overpair, and knowing that I had only $230, where at best he would only get 2-1 on his money? I was pissed and just went home and kicked the dog.
Why do I play this game?
Suited connectors played before preflop is not against the norm. If I was playing with you and my chip stack was very large, I might have called ur raise too. Especially if I made every else fold before your bet. If he had fired instead of the check maybe that would have thrown you off a bit and u would have not gone all in.Played last night in a game that is pretty much a tough group that plays on Tuesdays.
No bull , in 2 hrs of playing, I got pocket aces 4 times, pocket kings 4 times and Qs twice....the odds of this are astronomical, considering the odds against getting AA is 220-1, and I only played probably 40-50 hands in that 2 hrs.
Unfortunately, my aces got cracked two times to fluhes and straights. My kings got cracked 3 times to straights and one flush.
But my bad beat story is my last hand of the night.
I rebought for $200 after I lost my first $200 with my pocket aces against a straight on the turn.
1-2 no limit game
I had $230 in front of me in middle position(10 handed) Cy, who is very very loose and agressive opened under the gun for $22 (his usuall raise), everyone folded to me, I knew Cy did not have a premium hand, and when I looked at my cards and saw QQ, I knew I had his ass. I reraised him to $100.(tired of having my premium hands cracked) Everyone folded to him and the er called me.
Flop was 2-3-4 rainbow.
Cy checked.
I knew he could have called preflop with someting like A-(2-3 or 4), so I pushed the rest of my $130 all in.
Cy asked me what I had and went on and on about wanted to raise me(but I did not have any more chips and he knew that) He asked me if I had aces, blah blah blah.
I knew that I had his ass beat, because otherwisw he would have insta-called me.
Well he called and showed 5-6 clubs for the Nuts. I caught a meaningless Q on the river for trips.
What kind of idiot calls a 425% raise with 5-6 when he knew he was a 4.5-1 dog against any overpair, and knowing that I had only $230, where at best he would only get 2-1 on his money? I was pissed and just went home and kicked the dog.
Why do I play this game?
Regardless, you didn't play the had wrong....just had a bad beat. BTW, this is usually I go out too.
I understand playing suited connectors against an overpair, but you better be getting at least 4-1 on your money or you will lose money doing this in the long run. You need multiple players in the pot to play those suited connectors against an overpair, in order to get value for your call. Since I had only $230 in front of me, he was only getting 2.3-1 odds on his money, if I went all in and he won, so he was actually only getting 50 cents on the dollar, that is not good poker....but he busted my ass, so more power to him.
sports betting bad beats are more painful than poker bad beats.
For anyone who cares Chip Reese died yesterday.
LAS VEGAS (AP) - David "Chip" Reese, whose plans for a Stanford University business school degree were sidetracked by his success at high-stakes poker in Las Vegas, died in his sleep. He was 56.
Reese was found by his son early Tuesday at his Las Vegas home after suffering from symptoms of pneumonia, said poker great Doyle Brunson, his longtime friend.
"I knew him for 35 years, I never saw him get mad or raise his voice," Brunson said. "He had the most even disposition of anyone I've ever met. He's certainly the best poker player that ever lived."
After attending Dartmouth College, Reese was on his way to Stanford in the early 1970s when he stopped by a Las Vegas poker room and won big, said World Series of Poker media director Nolan Dalla.
"He just accidentally stumbled into Las Vegas and never left," Dalla said.
David "Chip" Reese is widely regarded as the best cash-game player in history. (Samantha Clemens / Associated Press)
His immediate success at cash games and low-key persona won him friends, even among those who wound up passing him their chips.
Despite winning three World Series champion's bracelets over the last four decades, including a $1.8 million HORSE event in 2005 that combines five poker disciplines, Reese focused on high-stakes cash games away from the limelight.
"I've seen him with a million dollars in front of him," said Dalla, describing how Reese would put out racks of $5,000 chips "like he was betting a few bucks."
Reese was part of a generation of players in the 1970s who challenged established greats like Brunson, Thomas "Amarillo Slim" Preston Jr. and Walter Clyde "Puggy" Pearson, Dalla said.
Brunson and Reese eventually became business partners, investing in everything from oil wells and mining to TV stations and racehorses and becoming sports betting consultants.
None of the ventures was successful, Brunson said.
"We went to look for the anic. We went to look for Noah's Ark. We were two of the biggest suckers whenever it came to business, but we both had poker to fall back on," Brunson said. "Thank God we could play, so we always survived."
Reese's prowess at both cash and tournament play was cemented with his 2005 win, said World Series of Poker commissioner Jeffrey Pollack.
"Many consider Chip the greatest cash-game player who ever lived," Pollack said in a statement. "His victory in the inaugural $50,000 buy-in HORSE championship ... made him a part of WSOP lore forever."
In addition to his son, Reese is survived by a daughter and a stepdaughter, Brunson said. He was recently divorced from his wife.
Services are planned for Friday in Las Vegas, Brunson said.
This sucks, I loved that guy. He was a great player and was great to watch. I am sure Doyle, Barry and TJ are very depressed right now.
RIP chip
Last edited by Jimcs50; 12-05-2007 at 05:30 PM.
R.I.P. Chip
JIm - yup, A A.
As for your beat, it's little consolation, but you want him to play that way. He'll rarely get lucky and you will mor than take your money back in the long run.
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